How do I tell her?

@SViswan (12051)
India
March 26, 2011 1:05am CST
I have an ex-colleague who was having a few family issues. I would help her out at work and since we were co-teachers and I was the section head, I did most of the planning. After I quit working,we still kept in touch. She would call me up to talk to me and I was a shoulder she could cry on. I would call to talk to her too. When she calls me and I'm in the middle of something, I usually tell her I'm busy if she called only to chat. She understands. Earlier I didn't mind her calling me a couple of times a week to rant/unburden her worries. Lately she has been calling everyday....and though I didn't realize it till yesterday, I call her once in a couple of weeks when I need something....and once a month to chat. Most of my days I am busy with my chores, kids and household help. If I tell her I am busy then, she calls later. I just don't know how to tell her that I can't really listen to her problems anymore. She isn't mean or anything...but I'm listening to same stuff every single day and it sometimes gets to me when I'm listening to such negativity all the time. She knows what my opinions on issues are(I'm quite open even when I think she is in the wrong)....and I don't see the point of repeating it every single day. How can I tell her that? :-( I know she's going to be hurt if I do it my usual blunt way and it's going to sound so wrong (which is not what I want).
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@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
28 Mar 11
Hi SV! Your post appears to be connected with my post titled 'I am busy'. I feel that you are caught in your own web.. It is the flip side of showing sympathy with someone. You used to give her a patient hearing and she started taking it for granted that you would always be available for her and you would relentlessly play the role of a shrink for her and she can bother you any time. I think, when you are busy you can always tell her the actual reasons and if you are in a position to take her call, you may take the call. However, if you find that she is continuing and not in a mood to finish the long conversation, then you will have to use some 'excuse(s)' - e.g. your new maid has come or your little one is calling you or the tap is running or someone is knocking on the door or there is call on the other phone ..................something like it. All the best. have a nice day!
@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Mar 11
I've done all of the excuses you have mentioned...and she understands. And it's not like I was showing sympathy...she is a friend...and I genuinely am concerned about her well being. I also know that I am the only one she is opening up to (at the moment) and being rude or too blunt might affect her mental setup...which I do not mean to do. I'm quite adept at handling all other calls regarding 'busy'. I do that with family too (my sister, mom, relatives). The only exception (as I mentioned in your discussion) is my dad because it's an international call and he calls just once a week unless it's something important he needs to talk about.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
30 Mar 11
Deepak, my problem is that I find it embarassing to tell her I am busy all the times she calls. I've never once put aside my important work for her sake and to listen to her. And also when I have the time to talk and we do so...it's mostly her problems (the same old ones) that I have to listen to. How much of venting can I handle?
@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
28 Mar 11
You see if you are genuinely concerned with a person, then only you would be sympathetic to her. I appreciate your concern for her but if her 'calls' over-ride your own tasks/priorities, then you will have to decide which is more important.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
26 Mar 11
I appreciate your situation because I had been in a similar one with a friend who was single with a lot of free time who would call me every single day just to rehash the same old problems. I did nicely explain to her that I loved her very much and cared about her a lot but my days were very full and whistl I enjoyed our conversations very much I could nog take part in them every single day and as far as her personal problems were concerned I do not know how to help her and that she is going to do that herself!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Mar 11
I guess being that blunt is the only way to go. Funny part is...it's not like my friend has a lot of free time....she has a young daughter to take care of and she is working too. Her husband and daughter form most part of her problems and I've given my opinion on what I feel about it. I was in a similar situation as she is and I've taken a step which works for me. I understand she needs to vent to release the tension and is not comfortable being open with anyone else.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
27 Mar 11
Hullo SV! I can well relate to what you have written; -you had written in one of your comments that some problems are of her own making and she just wants to rant. But there is a limit to hearing her repeated woes. I have a small suggestion- if you are convinced that some are of her own making tell her that at one point of time in an open frank manner. Ask her point blank 'what is her real issue?'. If she comes out wailing then tell her your frank opinion and suggest your own remedy [if she does not like it is even better because she will realize that you are going to be unsympathetic.]
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Mar 11
Yes, that was another issue. Though I do tell her my opinion the way I would do if I were in her place...I do keep some of it to myself...esp. if it would sound rude. But I guess it's time that I directly told her that. I was in a similar situation and she knows very well what step I took and how I feel about it....but she says that step wouldn't make her happy. I can't say anything to that.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
30 Mar 11
You won't believe the number of times I've told her the same. Every chance I get to tell her without hurting her feelings, I've told her. Each time I tell her the solution, she says, 'I'm not like you...I would go mad sitting at home'...I told her I wasn't suggesting sitting at home...and since money was not a problem or issue for her...she can do voluntary work or something more flexible where she would be sure to be home when her daughter will be and also give her family first priority (which was what was bugging her husband). And there's one part I haven't told her at all...because I don't know how to put it without sounding rude....she just isn't cut out for the job she is doing at the moment....and despite being highly qualified in another field (she is an M.Com)...she doesn't want to do something in that area. What can I say now?
@kalav56 (11464)
• India
28 Mar 11
You were in a similar situation and she knows it. So, you are fully justified in dinning your solution to her. If she repeats that she cannot do it then tell her she either does it or keep muddling herself in the same mess . If she needs a solution then this is the way; there is no point talking about it over and over again because just repetitive talk cannot solve her problem and it would spoil her mental peace. Tell her that very firmly along with what Paula said-- that you love her and it is in her best interests that you are giving the solution.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
2 Apr 11
Does she have email? If so, all you have to do is tell her that you cannot talk to her right now, but would she email you. If she doesn't have email, this is a situation where you can use self-actualization techniques such as those taught in the delightful self help book by Suzette Elgin entitled The Gentle Art of Verbal Self Defense. You can say something like "I understand that you need to get some of these problems off your chest, however, hearing about them troubles me." Assume that she keeps talking. Then you say "I sympathize with your situation, but I am starting to think that you didn't hear me say that listening to your problems troubles me." The point is you always validate the other person by repeating back something about them that does not sound negative and then you go on to stand up for your own right not to be treated like a doormat. Here are examples of things that could be said: --You seem to feel so bad about your difficulties that we are unable to discuss anything else. I miss the person you were before all these things happened. --I am concerned that you might feel hurt if I tell you that hearing so many problems over and over makes me feel uncomfortable. --I am glad that you called, but if you don't have anything new to discuss, then I really have to hang up and go about my work. Let's get together sometime when you are feeling better! You want to avoid the temptation to offer her advice as that just keeps her going, and then she leans on you more. Good luck!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
4 Apr 11
Hey...that's very good advice! I'll try that.....that's something I can do :)
@SViswan (12051)
• India
4 Apr 11
She does have email....but I'd prefer talking to her about it than using the email option.
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
5 Apr 11
Sad to say, but if she gets annoyed with you for being direct, then a) she'll get over it, or b) she wasn't worth keeping as a friend anyway. I hope it all works out well for both of you :-)
@SHAMRACK (8576)
• India
26 Mar 11
Dear friend, I feel she feels really relieved when she calls you. Moreover even if you have problems and if there is someone who could entirely understand usually we too get a great relief may be mental peace. I hope she needs a person for understanding her well and you are one who understand her without hurting her feeling. Moreover if you do not want to hurt her, just request her to get a good councilor or find someone you know who could give her better advice and to listen her problems. If not please request her your situation, may be without hurting her feeling as she see you someone who is dependable and trustworthy I hope so. I feel she needs someone to share her feelings, if not married tell her to get married soon to get her problems resolved, or just one day take her to a expert counselor, just tell her be a referel under you in mylot and to post her problems in mylot, there are lot here to give opinion are suggestions and also she may get reward too. Hope you will soon be out of this. Wish you all the best.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
27 Mar 11
You are right about how she feels. She is married and has a child of her. Her marital problems are her main problem (some of which are her own undoing). And I know that she is just venting and letting out her feelings which are good for her...but not for me. She can't go to a counsellor because her husband is against it and they both need to go together if they need to work out something. I can't tell her husband that. All I can do is listen to her. I've even told her that when she is talking to me about the issue, she is re-living the negativity and experiencing it again (though she is relieved after the conversation). I told her that she needs to be constructively occupied with something she likes to do to take her mind off the situation..then she wouldn't need to vent all the time. ha ha....she doesn't have the time to mylot and don't think she would be interested. She works at a school and gets a maximum of an hour between the time she reaches home and her daughter comes home.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
27 Apr 11
Daughter is very young...she is just 6! She can't share her feelings with her daughter. And I also feel that personally even if the daughter is older, there are some issues that a mother cannot discuss with a daughter.
@SHAMRACK (8576)
• India
20 Apr 11
Will she able to share her feelings with her daughter. May be if the daughter could give her much of mental relief.
@Angelgirl16 (2171)
• United States
26 Mar 11
This is a very difficult task you have ahead of you. Your friend seems to have a lot of troubling situations in her life that she believes that you can help her with. However, like you said, some of the conversations are repeated and you have already given her your opinion on the matter. So, how do you tell her that you cannot talk to her as often as she wishes without hurting her feelings? Depending on how fragile she is, you may be able to tell her straight out, but if she is too fragile you may just have to take matter in another direct such as not answering every call and just tell her that you were busy, which would not be a lie, when she called; maybe she will figure it out herself.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Mar 11
Oh I do that all the time. I tell her I am busy...even tell her what I am doing most of the time. And she understands...and that's why she calls again later. She seems strong on the outside and I know I am the only one she opens up to (at the moment....she is slowly opening up to her sister too). That is one of the reasons why I don't want her to feel like I've ditched her.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
30 Mar 11
Yes,Angelgirl. At the moment...I'm glad my friend's daughter is busy with exams...that keeps her busy and she hasn't called the past few days. But once school breaks for summer, I'm sure the calls would resume.
• United States
29 Mar 11
Wow, I guess you can say your friend is very determined to have you listen to her problems. Only time will tell how you get control over this situation. Good Luck
• United States
26 Mar 11
Over lunch, just tell her the truth, you are too busy to chat Everyday. But then set up a time when she Can call, say once a week. That way you and sh can Still connect , but not as often!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Mar 11
She knows that. I tell her I am busy when she calls...when she is free I'm not. The only time in the day when I am truly free is early morning...and she's not free to chat them. The other times are later in the evenings IF both our husbands are not in town (but both of them being out the same time happens very rarely)
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
26 Mar 11
Hello SV, Since you are sharing your opinion frankly with this friend, you can tell this feeling too to her. What is the point to repeat the same thing again and again so make her understand this without hurting her? Else you can tell her that, I am busy and will call you then no need to all her back, if you do this continuously two three times then she will understand, you are not interested to listen her problem repeatedly.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
27 Mar 11
That is the problem, Sreekala....I've done exactly that...thinking she would get the picture...but she hasn't:( To tell her to her face...I know she will be hurt....but what else to do? :(
@ellie333 (21016)
26 Mar 11
Hi SViswan, I think you are going to have to say something whether you hurt her feelings or not as like you say her negativity is getting you down at times now listening to it over and over. Tell her that you do not have the time to chat everyday because of family commitments and how recently because of these calls they have been put on the back burner and you need to play catch up. Ask her to call on a certain day and say then we can have a really good natter or arrange once a week to meet up for a coffee. If her problems are really getting her down tell her to go to the doctor as she could be getting depressed and they may arrange someone she can talk to rather than you. She must be lonely to have to call all the time bless but it does need to stop. Good luck with it. Huggles. Ellie :D
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
27 Mar 11
She does realize I am busy especially since I homeschool. She works and has a family to take care of...but still manages to try and call. Each time she calls I tell her I am busy with something or the other. She understands and calls again later. There have been days when she has called a couple of times and each time I've had to tell her I am busy and she doesn't mind that. I thought when it happens a couple of times in a row, she would get the picture. She can't go to a doctor because her husband is against it. I understand that she can't solve the problems that plague her besides doing something which she is interested in...to keep her mind off these problems. Since my younger one is 4 and we don't have any babysitters here, I can't even fix a day once a week to go out for coffee with her. And even if I did, she wouldn't be able to since she is working.
@SimpleBB (1329)
• Philippines
26 Mar 11
True friends understands each other. It is better to tell her the truth that sometimes you also feels tired and also have own problems to handle. Better tell her to meet once a week or a month whatever you both decide. Tell her that it would be better to have a sit and take time to talk about such issues. Besides it would also be your bonding time as friends. You can make her see this positive thru saying that you also need to have time to freed yourself from routinary problems of life. So hopefully, this could make her think that you also have problems but trying to find ways on how to manage things in a nice and proper way. Good luck. This would be better rather than time came that you might hurt her, and make her feels that you are avoiding her. Good luck. Happy mylotting.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Mar 11
She knows I have problems of my own...and she does listen when I have to talk. I'm not avoiding her....and I feel bad in a way because I know that she doesn't open up to everyone.
@shibham (16977)
• India
26 Mar 11
Hi... Proceed directly and tell her that you have also your own problems and you have less time to handle them. If she understands then she is your good friend and if does not then she is not able to be your friend anymore. have a great day.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
27 Mar 11
She knows I have my own set of problems and also that I am more busy at home than I was when I working outside the home. She knows I homeschool and my kids are home all the time and I need to spend time with them. She also doesn't feel hurt if I tell her I am busy each and every time. But she doesn't understand how her negativity is affecting me...and also that I'm not comfortable putting her off a couple of times a day.She also doesn't get it that I can't be available for her venting all the time.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
27 Mar 11
People like that tend to just not get it. You can try ignoring her calls. But that might not work. You have two options really. Either tell her directly, and just say what you need to say. Or you can just deal with it. If you really can't handle talking to her every day, you should better just tell her outright. Because if you don't deal with it, it will get worse and worse and worse, until you finally say something harsh, and really hurt her feelings. Me, I'm the kind of person that tells people straight up exactly what I'm thinking. I'd rather hurt someone honestly and openly, than hide and conceal, and ignore the phone, and deceive them by saying I'm busy all the time. I'd say something like "I'm sorry hon, I just can't handle listening to this anymore." and just say it straight.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Mar 11
That's the only thing left for me to do. I tell her I'm busy all the time and she just doesn't get it. Now..being blunt is the only option left. Thanks!
• United States
27 Mar 11
some times you just need to be blunt but dont you have caller i d so you can see who is calling just dont answer the phone but try and keep in touch once a week at least it sounds like she depends on you alot good luck
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
28 Mar 11
I do have caller id....but it would be rude to not pick up when it's her....every single time.
@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
26 Mar 11
She would definitely get hurt no matter how subtle you would say that to her. She got so used to expressing everything to you that she has become insensitive to your own feelings. She's so caught up with her problems that she has forgotten how to listen too. I feel sorry that somehow she has become a burden and I think it would be best if you tell her honestly that sometimes you just can't be involved anymore as you have your own life to deal with. I'm sure she will understand when the time comes.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
27 Mar 11
I don't vent all the time....only if she happens to catch me at a bad time. I don't believe in dwelling on negative things because I feel I'm then focussing on the negative instead of letting go. You are right...she is so caught up with her own problems (a few of which are her own causing) that she doesn't realize that she is putting me in difficult situations. She knows I am homeschooling and sometimes when she calls I'll be in the middle of something. I always tell her when I am busy but then she calls up again an hour or so later. There are days when she has called a couple of times and I've had to put her off....she doesn't feel bad about that...but I think she will be hurt if I sit her down and tell her that the phonecalls are getting too much.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
29 Mar 11
I have a neice does me the same way I just listen say a few things and we soon hang up not much ya can say thst woulldnt hurt feelings. So glad I havbe a walk around speaker phone helps alot!