When she goes to college and he doesn't. ( a semi rant)
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
United States
March 26, 2011 10:21am CST
I read this commentary in the paper that struck me. It said that more women are going to college than men, And because of this there will be more single parents. Why? Because women won't be with or marry a who doesn't earn more money than they. What?!! I thought. Just because he earns less does not mean they can't make a relationship work. And A person does not have to go to college to be a success. So I ask you, does it matter what your partner earns? Wouold this be a deal breaker? for me no. As long as he has a job he likes , I will be happy . Why? Because he will be happy. Money isn't the basics of my relationship with him. I guess if it were , Then his paycheck Would mean Everything.
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@voldrox (7191)
• India
26 Mar 11
Hello sarahruthbeth,
What you have heard is what is really happening now. Women who work want their men to earn more. I don't know how many women would agree to it, but it looks like these days something is on the change. Women want someone who can give them the upper status and so they want to marry someone who earns more than themselves. I am a male and i have been finding things like you heard on the radio or the television. Yes, it is true.
This was one of the reason why my girlfriend broke off with me and i don't want to blame her right now, but in my heart it still burns me. They want security and stability and i guess she didn't see that coming in me and she didn't even give me the chance to prove myself and decided to break up with me. Well, time will come one day when i would one day stand on my feet and close the doors to her if she comes crying back to me.
It's how things are now, sarah. Women look for security. Working women, its hard for them to fall in love with someone who doesn't earn much. Women like men who work and they like it even better if they earn more money. Money is in a way making way for love. As weird as it sounds, yes it is true to some extent. They see how much you earn and then think if they want to marry you. Happening in most arranged marriages right now, not that anything is wrong with that. But when love is broken it really hurts to know it was the money that mattered to the other side.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
27 Mar 11
I'm so sorry. I'm grateful you responded to this. I just wanted ask a question , not pour salt into your wounds. I can't believe it but I Should. most people think a person needs a whole of lot of money to be happy and in love. I think that is why during Valentine's day there were so many " If you Love me , Buy me this..." type of commercials. I just didn't get it. I am more like this line from the movie Carmen Jones, she says. " If I like a guy , he doesn't need a full wallet . And if I not , his wallet won't do him any good."
All I can say is that if she was all about how much stuff you can buy her, then she was the wrong woman! The One for you should see where you are and be ok with it as long as you are ok with it.And if you are thriving for better things , then she will Want to help. Love isn't Just for the rich. Real love Doesn't have a price tag! She is out there . I wish you all the best. I hope you find her. Take Care.
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@voldrox (7191)
• India
27 Mar 11
Actually, i felt better responding to this discussion.
Yes, you are right Love isn't only for people who have money and who like to show themselves off to others. Men are blind too, thinking buying everything she wants is the best thing to do. Alright, that makes them happy but did they ever stop to think if that is all that makes her happy and not you ?
I am like you. I don't see money when i begin to like someone very much. I know my kind of girl is out there somewhere and i am going to find her one day. And she will love me for what i am and not what i do.
Thank you for the discussion, Sarah.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
27 Mar 11
( huge sigh of relief) I'm so happy you felt Better responding! That's the spirit! she is out there . Keep your heart open and you will find here. Take Care.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
27 Mar 11
it would depend on his character, we have to have things in common, and a lot of times there isn't much in common when there is a big education difference, of course when I say this it could be the man who is very well educated and the woman is not. If you watch the big bang theory look at Penny great woman that she is, she doesn't have a clue of what the goes do for a living, she can't understand them.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
28 Mar 11
I DID NOT SAY ANY Thing LIke that at all, I first of all did not say I feel that way I said that some people find they have nothing in common with people in different lifestyles, this is NOT ME SAYING THIS IS RESearch, so please do not put words in my mouth.
No one said blue collar workers cannot be knowledgeable, at all,
it is just that university graduates tend to marry other university graduates and blue collar workers tend to marry other blue collar workers because they are the people they have more in common with,
of course there will be university people who will marry blue collar workers but the stats show that most don't that is all I said,
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
28 Mar 11
Whew! I'm glad! As you can tell , I don't have a degree and I thought you were calling me a moron Just because I never finished college. i think it all deoends on the connection. People are people and just because you work at a factory , it Does not mean you are Not into opera . Or just because you graduated from an Ivy League school , you are not into bowling!
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
27 Mar 11
Are you saying the Only way to be intelligent is to go to college? And if a guy doesn't go , he will remain stupid? If so, I strongly disagree. Anyone can study On their oen what they like without going to college. Many " blue collar" people can be knowledgeable about many things a colege graduate can't understand,even though they "studied" it in college.And as for not understanding a field, Does that mean a doctor's spouse Has to be a doctor too to truly understand their spouse's work, No! All you need is the desire to listen, they will talk about their day and if you don't understand , you ask questions, Simple!
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
28 Mar 11
MOney is a big part of any relationship...no matter what people say. More divorces happen when the money isn't there to support them like they like. Love can come and go too, but once the money is gone...ut takes a long time to replace it and lot of hard work. If the love leaves...it is much easier to find "new" love.
But this reminds me of a gal I worked with. She worked her tail off at two jobs to help support her and her boyfriend while he went to school to be a teacher. After 5 years of living together and going to school, he finally graduated and they got married. 2 years later...they divorced. Why? cause he wanted to go back to his small home town in Texas to teach and she didn't want to go there. So, basically she paid his way through school and then left her.
Money is important to any relationship. No matter what anyone says.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
28 Mar 11
I see the story this way. They were so busy working toward the future that they didn't sit down and discuss What future they Really wanted. It is sad but I assume your friend will make more than he. I hope both will be happy.
I wish you could believe me that money has Nothing to do with my guy and me. If I Wanted to sell myself into marriage , I wouldn't be with him. He doesn't have an 8 figure salary. It is based on love , Period.
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@veejay19 (3589)
• India
27 Mar 11
I agree with you on this point.A relationship is forged between two persons not because of money but because there is a chemistry between them that attracts and draws them to each other.If money were the only cause then it would be a business relationship and there is every possibility of it breaking up if and when one of the partners finds another person who has more of the lucre than he or she needs.After all itis a matter of the heart and not the purse that brings 2 persons to each other. There are many cases where a man could be earning less than his spouse, yet they have made their marriage successful.there are many stories of poor boy,rich girl and they are not just in novels but in real life.I have quite a few friends whose wives are highly educated than their husbands but that is only in their work environment and at home they do their duty as perfect housewives.The partners paycheck does not mean anything, it is their trust and understanding that matters most.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
27 Mar 11
That is the case with my close friend/ brother. His wife earns more and it doesn't matter.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
28 Mar 11
I don't ubderstand how that would make more single parents. I think that it would just help single parents be more self sufficant. I think men sometimes have feelings of resentment when their female partner is more financially established so to speak. Society had taught that the men are supposed to be the "bread winners." It doesn't matter to me the money they make as long as I don't feel used. I can take care of myself..I don't need to depend on someone else. I want to base my relationship on more than finances.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
28 Mar 11
Your last three sentences are the reason the article Assumes there will be more single parents.Women Know they can support themselves And the kids. With that degree and a bigger paycheck , she is right! But they also say that women won't stay with a guy who earns less than her! So there will be more single parents.
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@michaelah10 (32)
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27 Mar 11
Lets consider different factors why women choose men who earns more. If you would look in a bigger picture. If you would look around.. check the world financial crisis.. poverty.. would you blame them if they chose financial stability.. I would say no. The thing is, girls should be clear in the begining of what they really want. If they think this man is no good for them.. then say it right away instead of letting us wait for nothing.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
27 Mar 11
agreed! If a woman is going to sell herself into marriage , tell the poor guy she is about to date. If he can't meet the price tag , tell him to move on!
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@danishcanadian (28955)
• Canada
29 Mar 11
For my husband and I, education doesn't matter, money doesn't matter. We are both very intellectual people, and that works for us, but a lot of super-educated people go through life acting dumb as stumps, and a lot of uneducated people are geniuses. Just look at Irving Berlin!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Berlin
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@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
29 Mar 11
I don't understand this! Lots of men like whne their spouse or girlfriend makes more then them! Then I know men who hate when their wife or girlfriend makes more!So what is the problem here? Are woman thinking men are worthless and untrustworthy? Some are but not all of them!
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@bounce58 (17385)
• Canada
30 Mar 11
I guess there will always be guys who will feel insecure about having a partner earning more than him. I think this is what this commentary is about. That sooner or later, the relationship would break apart.
But, I give kudos to the guys who can be in this kind of relationship. One who is secure enough about himself, and be happy at what he is doing, even if he doesn't earn as much. I think those kind of guys are just all around better people.
Me, I struggle with insecurity all the time.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
31 Mar 11
Oh Bounce! I wish you could see what I see in you . A loving father who is doing the best he can.