When asked for a help, I become helpless….
By thanks1961
@thanks1961 (7035)
India
March 28, 2011 5:48am CST
One of my friend who work with me in our office quit about 1 year back. The main reason for quitting was that he had an affair with a girl who also working with us in a different department. They were good match and we all had the impression that they will get married. But due to certain unknown (for me) reasons, they break apart and they separated. Due to this reasons, he quit and got another job with a different company.
Now the fact, last week he called up me and said that he had 2-4 proposals and his family tried get proposals with many girls and he don’t like any of them. Now he is telling that I need to have a word with the girl (she is still working with us and I know her personally and not yet got married also). This man now asking me to talk about him and he want her to be continue the relation and would like to marry the girl.
What you do you think, if I approach her again in favour of him, will she say ok to it, or say not to it? Do you think if I ask for a rejoining, she will agree to it and if you were the person to talk over here, how you will deal the situation?
Please comment.
Thank-s
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19 responses
@Sreekala (34312)
• India
28 Mar 11
Hi thanks,
It depends on your friendship with this girl. If both of you are good friends then you may have the freedom to talk, in that case you can help your male friend. Since you don’t know about the real reason of their break up, you should ask your friend (male) what was the issue in between them. However, I really don’t understand why he can’t talk directly. It will be the best way to avoid the misunderstanding if any there and they can make the path smooth.
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
28 Mar 11
what happened to my dear sister (hehehe)
mylot/writers block? (hahaha)
this will help i am sure
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@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
28 Mar 11
Even I think I can do some help in this matter as I know both of them so long time. He is little reluctant to talk to her directly because he scare that she may deny or she may not be willing to have a talk all of a sudden. Today I met her (casually), but intentionality to know how she is and had a tea with her in the office and she found quite fine. I think I need to get the earlier details for their break apart and know little more about their past so that I can get to know them more of it. However, I think if I try a best work and both of them cooperate, it can end up with a nice marriage. He also experienced and she also got her thoughts in between for this one year time. So, if they have a serious discussion, I am sure that they may take certain decisive decisions.
I will surely let you know the developments in the due course of time.
Thanks for the response and suggestions.
Regards,
Thank-s
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
28 Mar 11
hello thanks,
If you knew the girl personally then why not help your friend.
If i were in your shoes,i will help my friend.
I will have a talk with the girl and asks if she still love him,as simple as that.
And would also asks is she's willing to reconcile with him once more.
Now,if the girl's reply is positive,that would be fine,but if it's negative,that's sort of a little problem.
Whatever the response from the girl,at least you have done your part as a friend.
If the girl's response is negative,it's up to your friend to make the move.
Ask your friend to personally approach the girl,anyway,it is his affair,so he should be the one personally has to resolve it.
But then again,being a friend giving some help would be a great opportunity to do.
Just give it a try,and hope everything will be fine and positive and they may lived happily ever after.
happy weekdays
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
28 Mar 11
Hi Jai,
Back from holidays? - Good to talk to you and thanks for your timely response. Yes, in fact I have some idea to go forward and I just though before going ahead, what is the suggestions and opinion about our myLot friends. I am getting nice suggestions and better points to approach.
As you said, I think I should talk to her as long as I know her well. From my understanding, she is a nice girl and once they got break apart, she is so different and become more lonely in nature. I still have the doubts that she still love him and the approach of further talks would be a surprise to her. It is my assumption only. However, I will find out the reasons for their disagreement and what was the previous history between them and will move accordingly.
Thanks for your comments and will inform you the further developments once I get certain precise word from either of these tow.
Thank-s
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
28 Mar 11
yes,i am back and again rocking here in mylot,can't resist really
i will surely have an eye for whatever result with this topic (oppps...gossips hehehe)
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@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
30 Mar 11
I am also romantic too!! Even I wish they need to be together. If I can spend some time and which can make certain good cause, it is well and appreciable. However, it is also better to know what was the reason behind their split up. Normally, if they get separated, there can be some thing either of the party didn't like or may have difference of opinion on certain points. However, after a discussion, if they consider to think over again, it will be nice and I am just thinking over how to go ahead with the issue.
Thanks for your comments.
Thank-s
@alottodo (3056)
• Australia
29 Mar 11
Sorry to jump into your discussion...but you know what? I would tell your friend if he is really interested in her...to go and ask her himself! after all is not your problem...and at the end of the day I think he has not right to ask any one to do his job for him!
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
It is a request from him just for once. Because, the only reason, he still loves her and they got separated due to xyz reasons. What he is telling, his parents are insisting for the arrange marriage and is look out for girls and they have shown many photos and different proposals as well. But he tells that he don't want to go for any of them and till he get a response from her, he will decide. Means, he still love her. He quit the job saying that he cannot see her around in the office.
I think it may be hurting him what he did and he really loved her so much and when he need to have a married life, he though of her and he still think that she is the best suit for her. He must have guilt of conscious and must of sorry for the same.
Even now I am not aware of the reason for their split and unless I don't know about it, I cannot make a move also. Again, I can't go and ask her all these things which will again irritate her. However, still I am thinking of a better way out and all of your discussions contributed a lot in this regard and thank you for your participation.
Thank-s
@dismalgrin (2604)
• United States
29 Mar 11
First of all, I have a really hard time believing that a fellow who is looking up an old flame for the express purpose of jumping into a marriage with her is actually ready for such a step. That just reeks of getting into such a relationship for all the wrong reasons. Ex's are usually an ex for a reason, so I don't know all the ins and outs of this relationship, but I'd just say that he would be a lot better off seeking her out as a friend first and seeing where things go from there.
As to your part in this seeking of reignite an old flame? Tread carefully. If he was just wanting to get in touch with her I would say for for it, but it sounds like he wants you to play matchmaker for him and expects you to make sure all goes as he would like. I've been put in this situation before and it just put me in the position of being the bad person when things didn't go the way the guy wanted them to. This one guy I had grow up with looked me up on Facebook about a year ago and we started talking about old times when he looked through my friend's list and saw my little sister. He liked was he saw and asked me to set something up. Now, I know my sister and I knew that this was not going to end well. My little sister does not go for serious relationships, and she is into a lot of bad stuff. So I told him. He told me that he didn't care, he could change her and she would marry him when all was said and done. So, I went ahead and arranged a meeting. True to her style my sister did what she always did and he was heart broken. He also refused to talk to me for a very long time over it so I was hurt too, because I had lost a childhood friend.
Another occasion. I knew these two people at my college that were seeing each other. The girl was in the same program as I, but she was not doing very well, and she ended up washing out and signing up for another program at the same school, but it had different hours. So the guy asked me to talk to her when I saw her and let her know that he still liked her. But, I never saw her so when I relayed this information to him he got very irate and threatened violence on me at school! Thankfully I had the wherewithal to laugh and point out the stupidity of that plan. But, it makes me very wary to play that go between for two people. I'd rather just give the guy the needed information to make contact and duck out, so that I don't feel responsible for what happens either way.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi dear,
Thanks for your experience and nice words. Just like you, even I have faced similar situations earlier also. I relaxed later on assuming that what I have done is good and whatever the consequences happened was the net result only.
Here in the present case also, things can come such a way that I will talk in favour of them and finally they may get together. However, I don't expect anything more on this. If they separated due to certain mis understanding and if they feel that a third party involvement is required, and if I find that it will not affect badly to me, then I will put of a discussion with the girl, if find ok. I am waiting for the reason of their split, which I must know before going for the talk. If he is made certain foul play within the love affair earlier, I also may get insult from the girl. So, as everyone suggested, getting into the issues is ok, but should be careful of the result, as it is spoiled love affair.
Thank-s
@Iram786 (498)
•
29 Mar 11
You can't really what her reaction would be as you don't really know why they broke up in the first place. And you never know, she might still be in love with him. And think about it, it won't hurt if you ask her because it's not to do with you anyway. You should just go ahead and ask her if worse comes to worst at least it doesn't really involve you but if things turn out really good then you should feel good about it as you helped them find happiness.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
30 Mar 11
Yes, even I have hop in this case. Only thing, I should consider just like a friendly discussion and within the limits of my understanding. There may be consequences because I cannot even imagine what is her perception about this matter now, after they end up with a split. Also, I am not sure that how is her reaction on this matter, if I get it out. I should think of a better way how to present the issue and a harmless response from her. Let me see how it comes when I have a word with her bout the issue.
Thank-s
@zukichucha (991)
• United States
28 Mar 11
I would not involve myself to that extent if I were you. It sounds like it got messy in the past and if it gets messy again you will be caught right in the middle this time. If it were me I would simply tell the girl that your friend was asking about her. Pass along his number and leave it like that. This way you are giving them the game to play. You re-connected them then stepped back and let them decide from there!
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi dear,
Thanks for the comments.
Of course, your idea make me to a safer side. If at all she still have some intentions, they can continue their talk and if I his contact number, they will directly initiate the discussion again, where my side will be quite safe. As you said, if any chance she don't like to continue or having strong opposition, then I will be questioned. However, I am still not yet opened the topic trying to get the exact reason for the break up. If it leads to something smelly, then I would go for the way you recommended. Because if they had departed due to some major mistakes from the boy, no doubt, I will spoil my name and fame.
Thank-s
@starsailover (7829)
• Mexico
28 Mar 11
Hi thanks: I am not sure if you have to do it. This depends. Do you think that your friend would do the same for you? Specially because I am not sure if they are sucha good match. His reaction when they break up was leaving? I don't think that's mature. But if he feels sorry for doing that and you consider a good friend you can take the risk and talk about him to this girl. And maybe some days after you knew if she still felt interested you can talk to her about how your friend is feeling and that he wants to make her comeback.
ALVARO
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi dear,
Initially, the topic felt so simple and when it came closer, even I have my own doubts. That is the reason why I thought I need to know the exact reason why they got separated. They were been an affair for a period and whatever reasons, they part away. It can be personal, family issues, religious or even of s*xual related issues. If the last one is the reason, if he insisted and she were against it, which made him furious and got separated, then I will never make a move for it. This is the main reason why I still kept quite and looking for the exact reason for their split.
If I found it is some silly or misunderstanding, and any harmless issues, and both being my friend and even the girl is so mature and well qualified, I can expect a reasonably well behavior from her. Only think I need to decided, if I a need to start, where should I begin, without no pain.
Thank-s
@Sanitary (3968)
• Singapore
29 Mar 11
IF your friend is serious about the girl, he should do the talking on his own, and not getting u to help him out with it. He lacks sincerity in doing so. After all, u are not the one marrying the girl, and why should u help? Since this particular girl is someone he likes, he should make an effort to secure her. There's nothing wrong in marrying someone he likes, and he should conquer his fear for his future.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi dear,
Now-a-days this is the common concept and why should I interfere in between. They loved and separated with their own reasons and if now he need to come back, he can get an appointment and if she is willing, can continue talk and go ahead and if it is not working out, it is upto them and I don't have anything to do with it.
Even I can straight away talk in such a way. However, we all have some kind of relations each other and on this ground, and considering the friendship, if I can get a help, that could be appreciated, that is what he demands. Any way, as of now, I haven't talked or discussed. I am waiting till to know what was the reason, and who's part is the mistake, if any and it was a simple misunderstanding. First I will consider the problems and if I need as a mediator, then only I will come in between and if it was just a mere silly problem, as you said, they can resolve it easily.
Thanks for you comments.
Thank-s
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@surekharathi (14146)
• India
28 Mar 11
Your friend should get marriage if she is ready. But I think she will not agree or may be here positive thinking is must and you should approach her. Because try every thing always successful.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi dear,
You are right. If she still love him and ready to forget whatever is happened, then they can come together as long as the boy come forward. I think the one year time they spend separately could have given enough experience and if both have the same wish, I am sure it will end up with a marriage. Let me see how it will go ahead. Thanks for your response.
Thank-s
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
28 Mar 11
hi friend, no other way of knowing all your questions unless you re link them back , seems like you hold the key to whatever the outcome would be, so just tell her your friend's intentions or tell the girl, I mean do both and let nature take it's own course, good luck to all of you
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi dear,
Thanks for your comments.
Yes, I think so. I can be so neutral and need to understand their position. I think a nice and friendly discussion can may results. Whatever it may be, they have certain previous bad experiences which made them to separate. Whatever happened is happened and if make a fresh thinking based on their errors, and both are ready to accept and ready to forget each other, we can expect some hope. However, I am still thinking how to go ahead and I need some more background from the boy that he is expected to give in one or two days time.
Regards,
Thank-s
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
29 Mar 11
hello thanks,
Since the guy is your friend and you know the girl personally why don't you give a try maybe they still love each other and this is the time for them to reconcile , just want to ak this proposals you mentioned is some kind of arrange marriage? (just curious)
happy mylotting
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi dear,
Thank you for your comments.
Yes, both are good friends to me. She is quite decent and well behaved and really matured. In this case, I have my hope that even if I take up the topic, she may have an open opinion on this, whatever may be the reason for her spit. However, I am trying to get more details on their life earlier and once I can understand more on the real reasons, I can get prepared to have the talk.
Regards,
Thank-s
@Prasmit (22)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi Thanks1962,
you are saying that you know the gal personally and the guy is your fried... In that case its its difficult to say no to ur friend and also its difficult to speak to the gal about this...
But when the guy wants the girl really if he loves her truely i think its better you make them meet directly(some how) and you friend should convience the gal, instead of you speaking and conviencing the gal...
This wolud be of great help to ur friend also the credit of rejoining the couple will be urs...
you just make them meet each other let they discuss the rest, this is my suggestion think if its rt or not and decide...
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi dear,
Yes, I know both of them. He quit the job and working somewhere else and I was not knowing the reason why he quit and I thought as usual that he must have got better salary positions. Though it was one reason, the real fact was that, he cannot stand to work with both on the same floor of the same office (meeting or getting chances to have see each other). Once they decided to separate, he don’t like to be with the same place, that he indicated.
She was so chilling girl and good looking and a nice behave girl and I was not even knowing that they were in an affair. Something went wrong and I am sure that if she say yes, there may be a many boys would be ready to get married to her. But she is quite and most of the time busy on her work and as I am being a good friend, we used to talk during lunch time and coffee break times and all.
This boy’s parents are up to him for marriage due to family circumstances and he now realizes that once he loved her and he cannot go for anyone else, when it come to reality. He is not telling the reason, and I feel that he is guilty and unable to have a talk to her. Once thing is sure that she don’t have any other boy friend or any other relations.
When it come to reality and he is now thinking that he don’t want another girl in her life at whatever reasons. Informing so much to me and requested me for a casual talk. In fact, he is so desperate to have a phone talk, because he think that she may not come to line or disconnect if she realize that, he is on the line.
But I never talked to her about this affair to her and she think that no one knows about such an affair. Whatever they had among them were not know to anyone in our office and only few intimate friend of their know about it. However, I am trying to get more details how it happened and a neutral talk on the topic on her mood can get some results, I think. Any way, it is such a topic and I am little scared to how to go ahead on this.
Thank-s
@sairam881990 (3)
• India
29 Mar 11
hi.
as you are so close to her just just arrange a meeting to both your friend and her so that they talk to each other and they can remember those days which they had spend when they are in the same office so that they can build their relationship and later he can propose her..
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
This is the simplest and straight solution for such situations. But I think if he directly ask her and she hesitate to talk or meet him again, it will be again end up the issue more complicated. What he think now is,if I could convince her that he still loves her and if there was any complexities earlier, just forget all and now he is willing to accept her and he want to marry.
If this is the case, he can tell her directly and go ahead. But if she is not willing to listen to his calls through phone or any other meetings, then how we will convey the message. Once she should be ready to listen what he want to say, and here he doubts that if he tries for it, she may not willing to talk.
Any way, for me, I think I should know why they separated and the reasons too. If I come to know the real fact, I can take a decision whether to go ahead or no. If he is really did a mistake or did certain foul play with the girl, I should be careful to talk in favour of him.
Thank-s
@SHAMRACK (8576)
• India
28 Mar 11
Dear friend,
If you are confident enough to make the matter to better position then why to hesitation just go head. Moreover if they both love each other I feel it would be easy for you. Still if they are in way to get married, I feel it would be better to consult with both families, moreover if you know their families will not put this into a mess. I feel it may depend upon these two persons acceptance to your words. Anyhow wish you all the best.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
28 Mar 11
Hi Shama,
Yes, I think I can do something in between these two. I think I should find where was the problem and what is their positions now. I don't know more about their family, but I know these 2 persons very well. Even though I didn't talk to her, I just had a tea with her today and I think if I take up the subject, she will definitely think over it. Before all, I need to study the background and I would go forward on this issue and my mind still says that I can make them join together. I will definitely tell you the further developments by this week end.
Thanks for the response and have a nice day.
Thank-s
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
28 Mar 11
Is it so? While considering with my earlier experiences, I may get jammed in between (not any love affair) but in this case, I have expectations as I know both of them personally. But one thing is sure that if I take initiative and if they both become together, I may have have any place in between later on. Also, I can straight way talk to her once for all and upto them whether go ahead or not. I can take it as a second opinion. However, as both are my friends, I don't think it will make much bad consequences.
Thank-s
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
28 Mar 11
Hi Thanks
I like others would suggest that you have a chat with the girl atyour office about this. Do not give any word that you will talk about this with the girl to the boy. Once you know what actually got them separated or what went wrong (if there was anything or it was only what you thought) then, if things seem heading the right way you can discuss and help the friend.
My way is a slower one and would take time as you are trying to ascertain the possibilities if any but without finding out the possibilities and the reasons it would be unwise to commit anything (that you will help or not) to anyone as both are friends of yours.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
28 Mar 11
Hi Sid,
Yes, the subject is little bit sensitive, though very common and simple. When the same subject is handled by different people, the consequences may of different depend on person and the position of the subject. Though the girl is so nice to me and treat like a very senior person to me (as I have helped a lot when she was new in our company) and have a good respect on me). Both this girl and boy are very beautiful and handsome, there were a lot of open exposure from both the people towards many others. Also, they all just come out of the college and with a trend of college life and when they are fully loaded with work and the environment got changed radically, they all become so responsive and much matured in the field of work within 8-10 months.
I think the base for their split was misunderstanding with each other and in our office itself has a lots of guys and girls and having with so open mentality with everybody. He though she had a previous affair and the same way she also meant. Today I had a few words with him and from his conversation I summed up in such a way. In short, I felt it was mere mis-understanding and which could have easily solved earlier. But as they both had their attitude and unwanted proud, both were become endemic in nature and didn't got ready for a compromise.
Now, when the family really pushed him for marriage, he cannot coop with any other girl and she still loves her. This is his part and I think I will find out her position in few days time and I can easily approach her view as I am in a good terms with her and free to talk like a good friend.
However, as you said, I am good with both these friends, an open approach could make good results and I just want to know if she still can go for a better of time with him, as he is still have a wish on her. If the girl is ok, I think it can end up and from her view, still I think she is so good in nature and don't have any affair with any one else. [I think so]. Also, she is not yet given word to anyone else, there are possibilities.
As everything is a friendly move from my side, I think I can be free with her and can come to know what is in her mind.
Regards,
Thank-s
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
28 Mar 11
Hi thanks
I don't see why not. I think you can talk to the girl and be completely objective about your approach, you certainly do not want to seem to her like you are forcing anything. But a few kind words about your friend might just re-spark her interest.
This will also perhaps put some closure to your friend. If the girl is completely opposes then at least you can calmly speak to your friend and let him know so that he can put closure there
Best of luck with this because you are being entrusted as a good friend and it can be a bit difficult. But you can do it.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
29 Mar 11
Hi dear,
Thanks for your response.
That is what I think also, as both of them don't have any connections after they separated, when I talk about her about him, her feelings can be any thing, at an immediate moment. She may require time to think over and may not take any decision, at once. However, as long as I am not sure of the REASON, I have to be neutral on the topic. If they split up on certain bad or really pointless reasons, I may also get spoiled from when I hear from her the real reasons.
However, my approach should be in such a way that it will not effect any of us. I guess she is matured enough and can take decision if I talk openly and I can estimate her position in this regard.
Thank-s
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
29 Mar 11
Well, the ball is in your hands , so make good on it.
Actually, you can talk to the girl about her former boyfriend winning her back. Try to entice the girl on the good qualities of her former boyfriend. Maybe she hasn't married because she's still pining for him to come back.
So i guess, you should also try to help them reconciled. If they will be back in each other's arms , it will be a great help from you and you should be proud of it.