Will you tell management about a co-employee who renders long hours of OT?

he will eventually be caught.

hello, thesids, i think being in the company for more than two decades, these employees/workers know what is right and wrong. talking with them will not change the attitude. in this kind of scenario, it is always the newbies who suffer. hi, cgrant. most of the time it is that thought that reminds me because everything has an end. the worst thing is to have ending that ruins one's reputation.

@cgrant: Hi dear and welcome to MyLot. I am quite sure that he would be caught too. But as Ms. Bingskee mentions, such people who have been doing thi for long, they are quite aware of their way out. They can always come up with excuses as they know the tricks to avoid the mess. @Ms. Bingskee: Yes, you are quite right, it is mostly the newbies who suffer and they are more prone too. As they always have that curiosity, impatience or even lack of knowledge of rules. My response above was for the newbies. The seniorsare seniors and many a times they are in the good books of the management... so complaining about them is inviting troutble for me

the sad part is they will not change anymore. it is ingrained in their system for many years. i think this is more the fault of the management. but it can also be that the management trusted some who did not do their jobs effectively.

indeed some people have none.

we just need to do what we have to do and leave people to check their conscience. although it is a fact that some people have none.

hi, dawnald. it actually depends on the person. some may even take it against you. especially here in the Philippines. they do not want to be bothered with their anomalous ways. the risk that one would put through in telling management is big. it could give the whistle blower a hard time plus the fact that he or she has to support it with evidences. the problem is will this action be supported by management when they were the ones who could have established a system that would deter any employee to do such a thing?

OT's here are signed with approval by supervisors and heads who are equally doing the same pattern. practical to me is when they produce results. the current system is so fallible that it can really be manipulated. workers and employees render OT without output. OT must be required from an employee because it is a necessity. what is happening now is that they render OT everytime they want to not because it is needed.

hi, dear! talking with these employees now will not help. when i was new they were defending their actions without me asking why. they do not listen to advices anymore being in that situation for more than two decades for some. the system has to have an overhaul.

the funny part sometimes is when these people cries 'unfair' when they were the ones who were unfair for so long a time.

That being the case then I would have no choice but to carry as a loyal employee and allow the others to continue as they are. With the hopes that one day the high up boss can distinguish a good from bad employee. Shame to hear this though, completely unfair and wished it were different for you all in your country. Here we have labor laws and with enough documentation we would have our rights protected in the event we were unfairly let go if we are loyal employees and discussed such with our employers and let go or treated unfairly.

whistle blowing is truly a hard decision to make. it is very risky for both employees. most of the time the reason why employees and workers render OT is because they needed money for many reasons and one of them is to pay debts. but i still believe that they should have output.

with the current situation, i am leaving it alone, marty, with hopes that the management will someday fix the system.

the company is lax, skysuccess. there is a lot to improve and there are reasons why this is going on for years. those OT requests are legitimate in the sense that they are approved. people got used to the system and dont care a tad anymore. i just hope that given the laxity, people will just regulate themselves.

that is one important thing to do - to inform the supervisor. but the supervisor is equally the same, rendering OT without really the need and without checking on his subordinates. what they want to actually impart is -- do not meddle, mind your own business. i think in this kind of work situation, it is the management that has to take action.

If this is the corporate culture then it seems there is little you can do other than tell the owners.

it would be interesting if that is the case - the one complaining doing the same thing, or much worse (and that would be entirely a different story). but this is not the case. this is about employees and workers who are very obviously seen as rendering OT without doing nothing but playing FB. they have the nerve to play farmville even if others are around and complete, say for example, a requested three hours overtime just browsing FB. the ones who notice (they have not done the complaining yet) are not blind, they see these anomalous activities most of the time. that is why there is a concern why the management has not acted on it. it is understandable to see other employees to take breaks and chat from time to time, especially those who are efficient and effective and responsible. after all, it would be very boring to be doing work without talking, or throwing jokes at each other once in a while. but this is abuse, to request for OT everyday without really the need, or without an output, as in nada. the funny thing about it is those who really are productive tries to understand and always try to give the benefit of the doubt while these people revel probably with thoughts that they are gaining more than the others. one more funny thing is if somebody comments about it they will be misconstrued or judged as envious.

it is understandable that workers or employees will not want to be implicated with such situations. those violations could actually cost their jobs. but then again, it really makes me think at times. do we really have to be silent when we have the power to change the wrong?

that could be done but there are a lot of things to consider.

If conscience will beat me and i have let the management know about it then maybe i could find a way to let them know about it, without telling them personally or maybe i could just warn them through letters.