I don't want to be a snob
By Toni
@toniganzon (72532)
Philippines
April 17, 2011 10:40pm CST
I'm a person who loves having all sorts of conversations. I can talk to you about politics, cars, hobbies, etc as long as they are within the line of my interest and not a very controversial one as would result to a heated argument. I can be very witty and funny.
Sometimes though i tend to judge people as stupid with the way they express their opinions on something and with the way they converse. I don't base it on how perfectly they can speak English but i base it on the ideas and opinions that they give or how they would start a conversation. I don't want to be a snob but sorry, i really don't enjoy talking to this kind of people as they bore me to death. I don't like talking to shallow people, i want to talk to somebody whom i can learn and share my ideas as well. I like to teach people who are willing to learn and i want to learn from them too, but there are people who pretend that they know but they're not just that intelligent at all.
So i just stop the conversation when i can see that it's not going anywhere at all.
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11 responses
@allknowing (137914)
• India
18 Apr 11
Everyone has a right to be happy and that includes those who are not capable of an intelligent conversation. But no one has the right to criticise any one nor judge any one. What one needs to do is to look for those that one can interact with at a level that makes them comfortable.
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@allknowing (137914)
• India
18 Apr 11
All of us are given a package and some packages do not contain the capability to converse. But these packages contain other capabilities which one needs to acknowledge.
@toniganzon (72532)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
The issue here is not about intelligent conversation but the ability to converse. Again I'm saying that one need not be highly intellectual to keep a conversation interesting.
@toniganzon (72532)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
But we are discussing about conversation here and when one does not have that capability then surely he or she must be good at something else and that is indeed acknowledged in that aspect. I'm not judging a person's totality but his capability of carrying on a conversation.
@sweet_jette (168)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
Well, I'm not going to tell you to tell that to them, not a smart choice. Little by little, form a little gap. Its not like you are not going to talk to them anymore, just make it simple but clear that you like to talk to other people more.
I successfully did that. Its just that it is kind of hard to keep a conversation going if we don't have the same brain waves, or we don't get each other the way we want to, right?
I did not want to offend people, as all of them are nice in their own way, little by little they noticed. There are others who started telling me I changed, etc, but my real friends told me they are happy to know I have other people to talk to. :)
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@moirai (2853)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
It's nice that you are open to a lot of topics. =)
Sometimes it is also nice to be open to things that are not necessarily in your line of interest (or not yet), particularly new things that you haven't encountered before. Because who knows, maybe as the conversation goes, you may find the topic interesting as well.
It's a good idea to stay away from controversial topics that may lead to heated arguments. =P
I would try not to judge other people though, especially if I do not know them very well. Also be careful to judge those who happen to have opinions slightly or completely different from yours. Each person has their own influences and experiences which may account for such differences of opinion. And a person with a different opinion may not necessarily be stupid, or shallow, or wrong. I suppose it is best to have some degree of open-mindedness when it comes to this.
In any case, it is the individual's choice who to talk with or not.
Oh, and that person who asks about your time zone and the weather everyday... lol, maybe he is forgetful! Hahaha. =P
@toniganzon (72532)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
I am not complaining about people who have different opinions than me and in fact I can talk to them for hours having a healthy argument. And I don't believe one can be so forgetful as to ask about my time zone and how can you converse with someone who asks about your time? It's not even on the list of a conversation starter unless you wanna use it as a puck up line and if you use it as a pick up line, you wouldn't ask the same person again and again. A good conversationalist and a sincere one is someone who shows interest by being a good listener and being able to ask questions that would generate ideas from the speaker.
One need not know everything but one must at least show interest in things. A conversation is a two way process and when you talk to someone and he answers you with just ok or hmmm, it means that that he must killed the conversation, but you don't have to stop there if you're a good conversationalist.
@toniganzon (72532)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
Yes there is a list of conversation starters. I teach them that's why i knew them and like i said there is such a person who is a conversation killer. With regards to ok and hmm, it's not only the words but how they were used in the conversation. And definitely i have the right to stop talking to someone who doesn't even share even just a minute of interest.
@moirai (2853)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
Lol! I meant the forgetful part as a joke! Hahaha. =P
I agree with what you said about good conversationalists. Two points though:
1) Saying ok or hmmm in conversation may also be used to show interest or show that one is listening. For instance, if I am telling a story in chat, I would feel bad somehow if, after sending line after line of story, it turns out that the person I am chatting with got up from his seat and walked away from the computer. Basically, I was talking to myself the whole time. But if the person is there, and interjects an ok or hmmm every now and then, it's like saying, 'hey, I'm still here, and I'm listening'. (I do this a lot myself.) Maybe it is just that the person did not want to break your line of thought that's why what he said is limited to just ok or hmmm, instead of something more at the time. And maybe he will have something more substantial to say later, when you've finished your part.
Again, to be clear, I am not saying this is the case in whatever conversation you are talking about. Because on the other hand, an ok or mhmmm could also mean: 'yeah yeah blah blah blah yap yap yap I don't care about anything you are saying'. =P It could be that, yes, but all I'm saying is that it may not always be so...
2) I did not know that there is a list of conversation starters. Hehe. Is there? =P
Time zone, you say, is not a conversation starter. Well, maybe it isn't. But I think the important thing is not so much what topic you started out with, but where you went from there. A conversation that begins with time zone, can lead to a discussion of... say for example... DST (daylight saving time) and whether it is used in your country or not. From there, you can discuss opinions regarding whether it is effective or not. Then, your talk can move to, say... energy conservation, sources of energy, nuclear power plants, oil prices, and so on. My point is: even small, seemingly unimportant topics can lead to bigger things. It is common for a conversation to move from one topic to another, sometimes without us even realizing it. I find myself laughing with people I talk with sometimes, and we'd say 'how on earth did we end up talking about this?' Hasn't that ever happened to you? =P
Well, I suppose some topics require a little more effort to sustain and carry forward than others. And one needs some degree of patience as well.
In any case, again, it is up to you to decide who you want to talk to or not, and whether you want to continue a particular conversation or not. And you are well within your rights to stop if you think/feel the conversation will go nowhere.
@millefeuille (369)
• Argentina
19 Apr 11
Oh, probably I am a stupid for you. My English is not that good (but I'm still learning and this site is definitely helping me), and this not only affects me in the way I write, also, in the way I express my opinions and thoughts. It's hard for me, because I have an opinion to almost everything (unless I don't care about that), I love to talk about lots of things too, I love to know and learn new things. But, when I'm responding to some discussion I can think much more on how to write correctly than on what I want to say. Anyway, I can be a snob too with Spanish, so I can understand you.
@toniganzon (72532)
• Philippines
19 Apr 11
Again I said that it has nothing to do with how one speaks English. It's not the language issue here it's how you carry a conversation despite your lack of capability in expressing yourself in a language that is foreign to you. I have lots of friends from foreign countries and they are not really good in English but i found none of them stupid as they can still make a lively conversation.
@mallu30 (461)
• India
18 Apr 11
Conversation with the people is also an art. The point of conversation is to communicate with the people. How to speak with others and share the information with others is an intellectual thing.
@toniganzon (72532)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
Not necessarily and intellectual thing as people with less intellect can converse as well.
I agree conversation is an art and when one does not contribute to it, then there's no conversation at all.
@ivane07 (76)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
I guess not everyone has the same level of intellect as yours but I also agree with you. There are indeed some people who couldn't grasp the idea of what you want to convey and it really pisses me off when they keep on talking nonsense. But what I usually do when the other person couldn't keep up with the subject is that I just change the topic in which both of us could relate. In this manner, I will not express something that might hurt someone's feelings. I just discuss a substantial conversation with someone whom I know could relate with me.
@toniganzon (72532)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
I agree but there are those who are just plain stupid i think and does not know how to carry a conversation well. How would you feel if the same person whom you talked to everyday would ask you about your time zone everyday too? Or would tell you, tell me how's the weather everyday and then talks about nothing else? I'm not looking for a highly intellectual one to keep up with the conversation, i just want a person who knows how to converse.
@cgrant (270)
• Spanish Town, Jamaica
18 Apr 11
you can also teach a person how to converse. some persons do not have that personality by nature so you just have to be patient with some people. you might be surprised how well that person learn.
@toniganzon (72532)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
Smart people can be taught and those who want to be taught. But if one doesn't want then how else can u teach them. And a good conversation is something that comes naturally and need not be taught at all.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
19 Apr 11
Well Ok, but you don't tell your age, so I don't know where to start with the conversing. Age is everything in a conversation because, if you are a student you are at a much different time of life than as if you were a young parent.Now speaking of myself, I'm just waiting for my first Great Grandchild so, having been through most phases of life, I can begin almost at the last, and still finish first!
@hongqistreet (321)
• China
19 Apr 11
@toniganzon, i dont agree with you when you said you will not judge people on how perfectly they can speak english but opinions they give. beacuse what topic they could talk and how they give you their opinions is based on their enlish level.
they may be very attractive and funny in reality but become boring and shallow in mylot beacuse they cant express themselves clearly. they only know a few english words so they have to use these words everytime, that makes their posts look simple and boring.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
19 Apr 11
There are many reasons why some one may not be a good conversationalist that has nothing to do with stupidity.
Shyness,insecurity,low self esteem these things and more may make a person seem as if they lacked intelligence, when all along it's these traits that inhibit them.
IMO, these people need help opening up and given a chance to express themselves the way they would like and it's up to the one who is speaking with them to do this, by either learning about their interests or things they care deeply about and you will be surprised as how doing this will help you enjoy conversations with them.
@cgrant (270)
• Spanish Town, Jamaica
18 Apr 11
i can be a little like that but it is always good to hear what people have to say. people will have different opinions about things we just need to be open minded and not to think that our way is always the best way and there is no other way. Its good when you want to learn things it makes you a more rounded person. Are you a motivational speaker?
@toniganzon (72532)
• Philippines
18 Apr 11
Definitely I am. People I talked to tell me that they can tell me exactly things that they want to without discomfort and I don't mind having healthy arguments at all. I do accept the fact that people differ in opinions and I'm not complaining on that. What I'm complaining about are people who are conversation killers. Read the discussion again so you will know what I mean.