Should a CEO who loses $11 billion for the company keep his job?
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
April 20, 2011 8:24am CST
The left spews a lot of rhetoric about CEOs running their companies into the ground, then being rewarded by either keeping their jobs, or by "golden parachutes". They get millions for losing millions.
Now, Prs Obama is considering selling off the rest of the government owned shares of GM. If he sells them now, it will mean an $11 billion loss.
If any other corporate leader made decisions that cost the corporation $11 billion, I bet every Obama supporter would be calling for their heads. Should Obama be rewarded for his $11 billion GM bloodbath?
Another Obama epic FAIL!
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@RebeccaScarlett (2532)
• Canada
23 Apr 11
Hey wait!
I'm a liberal (although a Canadian one).
I believe in socialist policies to a certain, restricted extent (if it's your own fault you ended in dire circumstances, why are you entitled to public money?), but I HATE wasted money. I think politicians should have to balance the budget every year, or have very detailed plans in place to pay back borrowed money (in a SHORT period of time--not just dumping the debt on the next government in power!)
So: if Obama does this, and can't find the money elsewhere is savings to make up for it and balance his yearly revenue/expenses, then yes, he deserves to lose his job.
I hate politicians who think they can just keep pushing debt forward, no matter what party they belong to.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Apr 11
Of course, we don't know how bad things are going to get, do we? Maybe he's afraid the stocks will go down further and the government will lose even more money. That won't look too good close to the election.
This is a good reason why the government shouldn't be sticking its inept fingers into business. The government has never run anything efficiently.
Obama won't be held accountable for this any more than the media or the left holds him accountable for anything he does or doesn't do.
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
20 Apr 11
The surprise is that he is doing it before elections rather than waiting. But I guess he wants to put some distance between the loss and his election.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
20 Apr 11
They think it will be a mute point but I guarantee it will come back to bite him in the future.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
20 Apr 11
We should all call our congressmen and tell them what we think. I have emailed all my state reps, dems and repubs, and told them that I don't want the shares sold until the gov't can make a profit, that it's MY money the prez is throwing away.
I doubt it will do any good but if thousands of people will do it, somebody might listen and make a stink.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
21 Apr 11
Hi Parated2k, I was very shocked to read it in my local newspaper too.
Imagine the national newspaper of Singapore felt it important to devote space on the stupidity of US government.
I think Obama is really stupid in managing finances.
He never improves on anything at all.
Too bad Ron Paul is not the President. He sounded the warning so long ago, and nobody listened to him.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Apr 11
You may get your wish, it looks like Ron Paul is running again.
@Onyxe121 (206)
• United States
21 Apr 11
In my opinion it should never have been taken over by the gov. But if it hadn't it would have meant more job losses and the economy could not have weathered that very well.
Its common for businesses to lose money and lots of it. Not only by selling stocks at inopportune times, but by their actions that cause the value to drop. Unfortunately, he is right and wrong. He has a job to do and if he would like to keep it, it involves making an unpopular decision to sell at a loss. When any company has baggage that is costing more than its making, it sells off those parts. If it was worth keeping the government would be keeping it and GM would be mad.
When the shares first went back on the market they sold for like 31 dollars a share. That was a fraction of GM former glory. But GM might be planning to sell some its shares for about 16 billion, which means the gov might break even. Maybe, maybe not.
Suffice to say that this decision could backfire or at least give the gov some breathing space as it sheds heavy baggage. A lot of factors go into a decision like this and I never took economics.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Apr 11
So, you're saying that you don't consider it any big deal when a CEO loses $11 billion? I guess you would vote for Obama no matter what.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Apr 11
What I wouldn't do is STEAL the stocks out from under the stock holders, keeping most for myself, and giving the rest to the UAW. What I wouldn't do is DESTROY what was left of a company, start another one with basically the same name and CLAIM that I SAVED it.
What I wouldn't do is funnel taxpayer money to the new GM, in the name of "grants" so it can use that money to pay off the "LOAN", then claim that the company payed it off.
Obama sic'ed his ACORN hyenas after CEOs for accepting the very bonuses HE, Pelosi and Reid wrote into the bail out bills... promising they would get their CONTRACTED bonuses, then punishing them for accepting them.
You may cheer on a lynching, but I don't.
As for Obamacare. Do you remember what Obama promised while he was running for president? He promised that he would open the same medical plan that Congress enjoys up to everyone in the U.S.
Do you ever remember him even attempting to do that after he was elected? NO!
Instead he did what he always does. He sat around while OTHER people wrote the medical reform bill, then took credit for it. He didn't help write a single word of it... and of course, the lazy butt didn't bother reading it.
A year into the passing of Obamacare, he's exempted so many companies from it, it is pretty much worthless to most workers.
Has it helped your asthmatic son yet?
Good president? Is that why he needs more time and $1 billion dollars to convince Americans he's worth a second chance? Shouldn't his record as president be enough to run on?
It was good enough for almost all other 2nd term presidents.
@Onyxe121 (206)
• United States
27 Apr 11
I will vote for the person who makes sure that my insurance doesn't drop my asthmatic kids because they have an attack. I would vote for someone who makes sure that they remain insurable throughout their lives regardless of health concerns. BTW asthma can make a person uninsurable just like diabetes can.
Most of the time peope only pay attention when a CEO loses money if it happens to be their money. But we all know that when you invest its a GAMBLE. Just like the lottery. You win some and you lose some. Its hard when what you are losing is the Pension fund. But Enron did that. Or your stock portfolio crashes and burns. And the BP oil spill did that. In these cases you are talking about negligance and overcomepensating for actual facts. These things might have been prevented.
As far as selling off stocks in lieu of a larger loss, wouldn't you as an individual investor do the same? Would you really hold on to a stock that might not be worth very much simply because its going to hurt in the near furtur? Were is your bigger picture? How much would it hurt for us to hold on to these stocks? But that is a catch 22...sell now and feel the burn or hold and burn later.
You might be suprised to learn that companies lose more than that on daily or more likely yearly transactions. Customers just don't know. These companies trim their budgets by shedding money draining assests to keep the company healthy and growing. Or they merge with companies who can take up the fledgling operations and get them up to par. Whether it works or not depend on supply and demand and the skill and knowledge of the person (or people) who manage it...think Time/AOL merger.
I don't exaggerate. In my opinion its just a cute form of lying. If I don't know the facts I say so when I render a opinion. I voted for Cinton and I could care less about him getting a BJ since he balanced the budget. I do care that he LIED about it. Obama is a good man and good president. Unfortunatley, he had to deal with the Bushisms and that mess on top of 3 wars and an oil leak and this was just the first year. Is he perfect? No, but he deserves better than a half baked idea that does nothing to actually give focus or even see reason.
Any man deserves that.
And so does any President.
@Angelgirl16 (2171)
• United States
21 Apr 11
Government is just a game to most of those guys and gals in charge; it is not about the public interests. They play games that is detrimental to the ordinary citizens without a thought of the tremendous, negative consequence such as a failed economy that reeks havoc on the little people, if you will. I think, one man or women can't bring us to our knees, it would take the cooperation of many in the government clique. They should all be fired, but wait! Didn't we vote for these guys?