OK LOOK! If you reported a discussion because....
By mommyboo
@mommyboo (13174)
United States
April 26, 2011 6:38pm CST
...you *decided* it was a DUPLICATE, that was very rude! There is a SEARCH feature here in mylot which most senior members use or attempt to use. The problem with this feature is often it turns up NOTHING because no wording from the title someone plans to use is IN the title of the other discussion, and none of the TAGS someone plans to use is IN the tag list of the other discussion. This is NOT our fault, this is a shortcoming of the search feature programming that Mylot uses. There is nothing that you nor I nor any admin can do about this at this time.
There are plenty of times when I see two or three or even MORE discussions that are technically about the SAME thing. Do I get all irate and stupid and report them? NO I DO NOT. And you all wonder why some of the long time users here at mylot have started to get fed up with this kind of crap.
Think about it! So what if the discussions are similar? If I read all three of them, I will guarantee that DIFFERENT people posted in them. They posted different responses. Really, stop being so intent on making a nuisance of yourself and spend more time making sure YOU write quality discussions or responses instead of picking on other users here. That was the most petty and shallow thing I have seen all day.
What do you think? Am I in the right or wrong for feeling this way? We do the best we can with the tools given to us. There is nothing admirable about being a tattler or a busybody and I am not afraid to say so!!
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11 responses
@34momma (13882)
• United States
27 Apr 11
I don't really get why people would do this. I personaly have never rated anyone negative. I'm if someone says something i don't like then i just move on to the next person. If i see a post that is kind of like one I have seen before, so what it happens. No thought is an island. Geez people get a life!!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
29 Apr 11
YES! No thought is an island lol. I rather like that. In all my time here, I have never reported a discussion except for one or two that were directly abusive towards other users and NAMED THE USER in the title. I have only rated negatively for two reasons - someone posted something that made entirely no sense and wasn't even partially related to the topic I posted... or it was written entirely in another language so I wasn't able to understand the posting. I feel those are appropriate uses of the report and negative feedback features, and anything outside of those reasons are probably not appropriate lol.
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@akp100 (13640)
• India
27 Apr 11
Hi
Well mylot is on since many years. And it having lots of users with lots of discussions. So it is really hard to think about some unique discussion(at least for me).. So yes it is okay to have same discussions till its content is different. Everyone having unique experiences with their life so i guess title can be same but its content will be surely different if someone hadn't tried to copy it. So i am agree with you.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
29 Apr 11
Despite all the reporting that goes on around here and how adamant those 'reporters' are that they are in the right for doing it, as a normal and not psychotic user, I have NEVER seen all these 'duplicate postings' and 'duplicate discussions' they claim to see all over mylot. NEVER. But.. you know,... I come here and start a few discussions if I have some ideas, and I look at the discussion list to see what's around I can add my two cents to.... and I sometimes look up some of my friends so I can read up on their discussions and contribute, or visit a profile of a new person who answered one of mine so I can friend them or look at their interests. I don't come here hell bent on writing tickets or getting badges for acting like a moron on a daily basis lol.
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
29 Apr 11
Personally I agree with this statement as well, and think sometimes they need to concentrate more on the stuff that is totally not supposed to be posted like discussions with referral links, or just plain mean stuff here. When you see so many people continuing to get fed up here for their discussions being removed and such it can make you wonder what Fun is still left here. If we could just get back to more of the basics here and post quality discussions and not worry about some of the small things this will continue to be a great place for sure.
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@4mymak (1793)
• Malaysia
27 Apr 11
if you look at profile - you will see that i dont post new discussions as much..
i prefer to respond to other member's discussions.. and yes, i too.. find that there are similar discussions, but never really duplicates. how many members are there in myLot ??.. ALOT... and surely, among us.. across the ocean, across the globe, across the state.. probably across the street.. may be thinking of the same things at the same time. and, .. it is not impossible that somehow, somewhere 2,3 people will post a similar discussion. even if there are 'copycats' - who really duplicate other people's discussions.. i dont really care, dont really notice.. if i see that i've responded to something similar - i just ignore that one, and find something else to respond to..
but once.. i saw a discussion that soooo similar to a post my myLot friend posted - i didnt report it.. but responded - 'why is it i feel like i've read and responded to something similar to your discussion...' -
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
29 Apr 11
I probably answer more than I start too... it's so much easier than thinking of all the topics that are out there! I sometimes think that when people go around 'reporting' things or complaining of duplicates, they must be LOOKING FOR THEM because as a NORMAL USER, that's something I don't really encounter here. If you use this site the way it's intended, you probably will not even NOTICE half of the drama that drama mongering people try to 'point out'.
As far as the person who plaigarized my discussion... well, it must've been good if he thought he'd try to pass it off as his own and get more responses, right? Not to mention, my friends who had seen it once before went in there to post where it had come from anyway lol.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Apr 11
I'm with you. Like the day after that mother drove into the river with her kids. There were at least 3 or 4 discussions about it. So what... It's not like any of them was a verbatim copy of any of the others, and you are right about the search feature.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 11
It's so freaking annoying, Dawn! And I just posted another discussion about adding more tags because some person - probably not even someone who posted in it - decided to add an abusive tag calling a discussion a 'duplicate' and I could not find ANYTHING that was the SAME before I posted it.
I know that sometimes I will answer a discussion because it's more readable than another, even if they are both similar discussions. It makes my brain hurt to read a discussion that is worded so badly I have to reread it 4 times before I can figure out what the poster meant lol.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
29 Apr 11
Sometimes it seems like things are always stacked against decent people and there are too many ways for people who want to be jerks to well.... be jerks. I try not to be purposely mean but it's hard to hold my tongue if I've been attacked for nothing! I never condone screwing with people 'just because' lol.
@tink91879 (742)
• United States
27 Apr 11
I understand reporting if one person post the same thing repeating themself, but like I saw in one you responded you have to give slack for the possibility the comp messed up. I have responded to discussions and suddenly everything I typed was gone. I had to start over. I havent seen them posted, but it happens. You think its gone so you do something else and it pops up without you knowing it. I dont really find it a big deal if someone post about a subject and you do the same not knowing its on here. Lets face it how many ppl use Mylot and how many ppl think the same thing and will start a discussion based on the same thing not knowing its here? we all have different thoughts so the discussion will be a bit different. As long as someone didnt steal your thoughts I dont see a problem and find it childish of ppl to lurk around wanting to get others in trouble. Its a horible fact of life that ppl miserable with their own life will try to make everyone else feel the same.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
29 Apr 11
Oh absolutely. When people go around abusing reporting and giving negative feedback for inappropriate reasons, the whole community suffers. I point out things like this and talk about things like this because I want to promote GOOD USE of tools in this community, not bullying and harrassment of users by users because they want to screw the system. I want those rude people AWARE that their behavior does NOT go unnoticed and we ARE onto you, and sooner or later, karma is going to take a big chomp outta your butt
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@kris182_2000 (5444)
• Canada
27 Apr 11
I have seen several duplicate topic discussions here that do warrant being reported.
If you look at some of them, they have the exact same title and wording throughout.
What's wrong with reporting that?
Granted, the search feature may not work properly, but when you see 2 discussions in a row that are the exact same by one user, then of course you'll report it. Only one discussion needs to be available, the user should not be earning for 2 exact same discussions, that's cheating.
Make sense?
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 11
Ok... well if someone is posting the exact same discussion TWICE, it may be a double post as that has happened before. Your browser closes and the post gets eaten presumably before it posted, so you try to repost it. Mylot has no auto save feature so it is not saving what I'm typing as I'm typing it, if there's some sort of error, then I lose everything I've just typed.
On the other hand, it is obvious plaigarism if you see an exact word-for-word discussion which has been reposted by a DIFFERENT user, and we've seen that happen too. In fact, a few times I had been given a heads up by another friend here that he saw at least one or two of my discussions plaigarized by another user, as well as a time when a troll user came in here and stole my avatar and tried using it to pass himself off as me. In cases like that, yes it makes sense to report because if you're a long time respectable user, you definitely don't want some numbnut going around degrading you by pretending they are you and ticking off users by posting inappropriate garbage and plaigarizing your (and others') discussions.
This is mostly a vent about people who seem to have nothing better to do than poke around here on mylot and try to find fault with people they don't even know and accuse and report them of posting 'the exact same thing' as another user. Keep in mind too, this site has been around for something like 4 years. I'm not likely to respond to a discussion that is 1. 4 years old and has received no new posts in 4 years 2. the original poster has not been active or signed in in 4 years either. If you post a new similar discussion to one that is 4 years old... or even 3 months old and is not active, that's called being smart and updating. FEW veteran users choose to resurrect very old posts because it doesn't really get a lot of new discussion going, plus you are very unlikely to get any interaction from the original poster too.
@acongojada (57)
• United States
27 Apr 11
mommyboo,
I've got to agree with you. I am not the most tenured here, but I know that people can talk about similar things, and the discussions can be totally different. In fact, that is one of the things that I like best about this place. :)
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 11
It just makes no sense that some people are more taken with acting like internet police rather than contributing positively to things. Negative petty people drive me nuts and I wish they were all evicted from public sites. They are NOT safe for public consumption. If they encounter OTHER people who act like they do, they scream louder and fuss more than anybody, yet they don't even NOTICE how they act the same way. It's CRAZY!
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Apr 11
mommyboo I never report stuff like that as so many times these so called duplicates really are not duplicates at all in that they cover an aspect of something while several others carry two more different aspects say of discussions about teachers.One was about a special teacher who turned the poster's life around, another one was someone accusing teachers of having an easy life as they are off all summer and the third was about the federal government cutting back funds for schools.they were not duplicates at all.I am far too busy myself trying to get caught up from being away from my lot for 30 days to bother reporting anyone for any thing.I like to mind my own business and try to get back to respnding on my friends discussions
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 11
I have met so many delightful people here... and even chat with them other places these days . Of course, any of the people who are being petty will NOT be people I reach out to, and I probably will attempt to avoid their discussions as well as HOPE I never have to encounter their disagreeable presence in my real life away from the computer
I don't think I have actually seen a word-for-word discussion double posted here ever, and I would think that is the SOLE reason anybody should ever complain about a duplicate - if it REALLY is one. Duplicate means a carbon copy, not 'similar' lol.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
27 Apr 11
I have no problem with similar discussions as long as they offer a different slant to the subject matter.In fact if the topic is interesting enough, i enjoy reading different takes on it.
I think some people who report them are just looking for an excuse to be spiteful i don't believe their motives are geared toward helping the admin rid the site of duplicate discussions, just as i know for a fact discussions are reported here for no good reason,by comparing the tags and the discussion itself, i sometimes wonder what the person who reported it was thinking, since there are many i have no problem with and contain many positive comments.
BTW, good discussion nice to know you're not afraid to speak your mind.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 11
Thanks! I'm kind of random here, sometimes I get drawn in and post a lot, other times I'm missing for a long time. There are times when this site can be a huge timesink because there are lots of good discussions, or threads that are VERY active, and keeping up can be almost a full time job in itself. There's also the matter of answering the responses you get, which I try to do as well.
I agree that a lot of people are just looking for an excuse to be spiteful, I don't know why. Does it actually make them feel GOOD to be nasty to others, simply for the purpose of being nasty? I had an incident once with a friend who was accusing me of something but wouldn't TELL me what it was unless I went to HER HOUSE. Of course I refused, why leave yourself open like that on someone else's territory? What an unwise thing to do. When this *friend* starting calling my other friends trying to track me down because started ignoring her calls and emails, one of my other friends finally stepped in and told her 'you know what, do you want to WIN or do you want her to still be your FRIEND?!' Of course she said 'well I still want her to be my friend'. I think she just wanted to WIN, truthfully, she was only interested in being right and accusing me of whatever it was she thought I did. She did not care to be my friend at all because friends do not treat friends that way.
My point in saying that is it seems there are people HERE who act that way too... they care nothing about contributing to ANY discussions, they just want to be RIGHT and they want to be applauded and given kudos for 'being right' and they figure that reporting others and getting warm fuzzies from admin will elevate them to some perceived 'great mylot contributor' badge of honor roll lol. Sorry, my sarcasm got a little outside the lines.
@sashakiddo (1102)
• United States
27 Apr 11
I completely agree with you. People take things too seriously here, they are very supportive of the mylot rules and that's great but it would be wonderful if they could tone it down a bit.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 11
There's just better things to do than act that way. I don't want anything to do with people who seem to just pick through things in order to find something to report or get in a tizzy about. Folks like that apparently have no life, or why would they TRY SO HARD to be a jerk? I don't get it.