can you imagine yourself get married to your cousin??????
@astryfernandy (66)
Philippines
April 29, 2011 4:26am CST
Hi everyone,..
I would like to discuss about this topic. Why? because in some parts of the world,this thing is really happening.
"BATAK" is a race in Sumatra Island, Indonesia. In "BATAK" cultures, one can be married to his/her own cousin. It is really true, and acceptable and they still do this nowadays.
So this is how it works:
"PARIBAN" :
Pariban are "SONS OF FATHER'S SISTERS" and "DAUGHTERS OF MOTHER'S BROTHERS".
This means that
if you are a male, you can get married to your uncle's daughter from you mother.
if you are a female, you can get married to your auntie's son from your father.
Quite confusing, but the bottom line is, you can get married to your own blood, so what do you think of that???
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33 responses
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
Hi there,..
Well I am not quite sure about it. I also think about that issue? but in their cultures it's not a problem to them i think. Apart from that, I am also not sure what is the reason behind that practice?
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
29 Apr 11
The Batak custom is more complicated than what is allowed in the UK, most of Europe and some States in the US (and, as far as I know, in many other countries).
Here it is quite legal to marry your first cousin (that is, someone with whom you share two out of your four grandparents). It has been proved that there is no more risk of any genetic defect in the children of such a marriage than there is for any woman over 40 bearing a child (about 2% of births, I believe).
Several notable people in the UK, including Queen Victoria and Charles Darwin, married their first cousins.
In small communities where there is much more risk of intermarriage over several generations, it is probably wise to have such a rule but in large communities such as Europe and the United States, with a large gene pool, the risk of increased genetic problems is very little more than normal and not worth considering.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
29 Apr 11
I do understand that, in some cultures, marrying your first cousin is considered incest. That may be because of the local laws and customs but it is also, perhaps, because families are often closer and more 'extended' and many more people grow up with their cousins in the same sort of relationship as brothers and sisters do.
This is far less common in the West, I think, where a married couple is much more likely to set up home on their own and to leave the parents' house. Even so, marrying one's first cousin is somewhat unusual here. Most people choose a partner from outside the family circle.
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
Hi owlwings, nice explanation you wrote above.
since I have never really learned about the western's culture apart from supporting and "super agree" with the "freedom to live"..(hahaha), I guess I learned new things today.
Thank you
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
29 Apr 11
I can not imagine myself being married to a cousin of mine. i do noteven habe a cousin that would hold that kind of attraxtion anc interest for me. cousins are family. and that is where mine shall remain, not as any kind of lover.
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
30 Apr 11
Hi sender621,
from what I know, in certain cultures that allow related blood marriage, children are taught to see their cousin not as cousin, but more like a friend or a husband to be.
They are taught to think of their cousin like that, so later on it won't be weird when they finally get married.
@tiina05 (2317)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
hello,
Yeah, that is really amazing. Well, we must respect their culture. But it is really shocking that it can also be done, I dont think that it is better because he is your own blood. And it said that if you married your own blood maybe your son will be defected. I dont know if that is true but I believe in that. But as what i said maybe we should respect them.
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
30 Apr 11
hi tiina05, how are you?
sorry for the late reply. Yeah, it's their culture, we should really respect it. It is shocking, but take it as an external information, to wider our knowledge.
@iklananda (1202)
•
29 Apr 11
It's actually happen almost all over the world used to be when people still limited and the tradition still tight.
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
30 Apr 11
Yea it's happening in many parts of this world. if you read all the comments they are posting here, you'll find that in Europe this practice is also happening,although the relation is not as close as the "batak" culture.
@blosiewinkz_16 (116)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
I can't imagine myself getting married with my cousin or anyone related by my own blood. That sounds and feels horrible..=0
I guess, there would rise a possible congenital abnormalities by then. The couple will have a hard time to deal with the possible consequences.
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
30 Apr 11
Hi there,
yeah me too. I would never imagine myself get married to one of my own cousin. oh my God it's just too weird for me, but it happens anyway. so just let this be an extra knowledge for us, that weird things do happen around us.
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
11 May 11
Hi. astryfernandy. Welcome to myLot! I think that this is very nasty. It really is. I could never marry my own flesh and blood. We may not come out of the same womb, but this is just sick. I am glad that I don't live in Batak. My cousins are only that, just cousins. Nothing more.
@mods196621 (3652)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
I think that this is a long traditional way of marriage. But still there are lots of country doing this things. Anyway the genetic problem maybe can be one of the main problem if cousins or close relatives get married to each other. Like i have friend with the same situation and the result they have 3 kids with abnormalities disorders. Not only physical but also mental retardation. I don;t know with some brothers if they also practicing this kind of marriage rites. This is the only thing that i know about with close blood relation to be married. With respect to other brothers in religion i am not sure if they will do this kind of marriages.
Have a nice day to all!
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
Yes, I suppose you are very right about it. We learned about it during junior and senior high school rite? (in Biology. Well, it's a tradition and they still keep their tradition strong in their community.
@ifa225 (14463)
• Indonesia
4 May 11
Hi Astry.
in my culture, we are allowed too to get married with our cousin. it is not forbidden but however we better avoid it. the reason is we can't have more brothers by that marriage. it would be different if we marry another guy from another family, we can have more family
@ifa225 (14463)
• Indonesia
4 May 11
Hi Astry.
in my culture, we are allowed too to get married with our cousin. it is not forbidden but however we better avoid it. the reason is we can't have more brothers by that marriage. it would be different if we marry another guy from another family, we can have more family
@lovebugjess (262)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
I Think it is really disgusting, well getting married to your own blood line can cause some illness, because they said you will get weak.
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
hi love,..
well, in some culture they believed it is not disgusting. some other cultures, do this to save the family's name, and grow the family to be bigger
@AkatsukIJSN (211)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
I am also wondering about the genetic problems that may come about this practice. Being relatives they may have recessive genes that when two partners carry that recessive gene even how healthy they look they may pass these to their children.
In my country this practice is considered taboo. We can only marry 3rd degree cousins, and even that is still frowned upon by others.
Since its their culture for them they may not see it as wrong. I just hope that they undergo genetic screening first to avoid congenital sickness for their future children.
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
Hi there,..
Like I said in my previous comment, I am also wondering about that. Being relatives and "can be considered as close relatives" most probably will bring a genetic problems. I have not asked or search about the effects of the practice, because I don't wanna be rude and it could be seen as if I insult their cultures. so just keep in in minds.
@ohsodianne (433)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
I guess the only problem with that is increasing the risk of genetic diseases. But if it were me, I'd still be weirded out because while I kind of grew up with my cousins. However, it really is normal for some cultures.
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
Yeah, I agree with you, apart from the risk of genetic diseases to the children, it would be really weird to be married to our own cousin, even when we don't grow up together, i would still feel weird to think that my husband is also my cousin..
@astryfernandy (66)
• Philippines
29 Apr 11
Well, guess what? it is never abandoned. Even today, the whole community of BATAK people know about this practice and many are still practicing that in today's life. believe me, it is still happening today.
@dreamy1 (3811)
• United States
1 May 11
I had some Lebanese friends in college who were siblings and their parents were first cousins. In some cultures it's accepted. I was taught you need to know who you are related to because it's not really accepted to get involved with people you are related to.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 May 11
hi astryfernandy If I really loved my cousin yes I wou ld marry him, My great grandparents were first cousins and their children and grandchildren were all quite intelligent.It was not really acceptable
to the powers that be but I do not think anyone knew that they were
cousins at all.Thanks for sharing this history as I just learned something else new this eveving.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
1 May 11
Here in our country it is not allowed and the church nor the country/government's law will ever allow someone to marry his/her cousin up to the 7th affinity.
Scientifically,it is not good to marry with your blood relations,there will be some genetic problem that may/will arise.
have a great Sunday and welcome to mylot
@nenaandtrey (223)
• United States
1 May 11
I don't think i could do that.
Although i have a cousin on one side of our family married to other cousin on the other side.
My moms cousins daughter married my dads brothers son. Which makes them both my cousins.
Thanks for sharing! Hope you have a great day
@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
1 May 11
I learned to read when I was very young, so I wasn't as weirded-out when I got to the story of Jacob (son of Isaac, son of Abraham) and how he was instructed (point-blank) to go to his uncle and marry the cousin, how he had to work seven years as 'dowry' for the Leah (the one he married against his will, as she had to be married before he could marry the one he wanted, Rachel ... all BEFORE he became Israel, I think).
Maybe back then our genes weren't as refined as they are now ... maybe that's why all the Jews had such diet-restrictions, and we've forgone 'purity' in order to strengthen our genetic immunities