How Dare the Seventh-Day Adventists Claim to Be 'the Only Truthful Church'?
@mythociate (21432)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
May 7, 2011 9:34pm CST
Where do they get the idea of a "church" being 'an organized group'?
The Greek for 'church' means 'called-out ones' ... when Jesus said Simon Peter was to be "the rock upon which My church will be built," I think He meant more like 'a fortress-wall' (separating His flock from the goats) than 'a foundation.'
The 'churches' the Apostles wrote-to in the New Testament were more like 'independent-party meetings' than the prayer-meetings that most Christianity-gatherings have devolved into.
Being 'called-out' means realizing that you--by obeying Jesus Christ's commandments (even if you do it for some reason other than 'to show that you love Him')--you become His brother, redeemed by His Blood. If 'being His brother' compels you to observe Sabbath on Saturday, go ahead; it compels me to realize that I (like Him, like all His brethren/sistren) am above the curse and am equal to the first Adam (but for the age-difference).
Now, where's Eve?
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
9 May 11
Well many Churches claim to be the only Church that knows the Bible like the back of their hand and they will tell you what the Bible means because you aren't smart enough to understand what it means. (Also the part about Peter is a Roman Catholic thing.) But yeah Christian Churches, Catholic and any other denomination all pretty much says their church is the true church of god it just makes good business since to tell people you are the true way to heaven instead of telling them the real truth which is you are using their beliefs to enslave them to your ideas. (I am against Formal organized Religion and believe that Jesus (if he actually existed would agree organized religions are bad) I was raised a Roman Catholic and am now a Buddhist)
I will leave you with this.
Their are many paths to the same destination.
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
9 May 11
Cool. I am a member of SGI so Nam myoho Renge Kyo.
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
10 May 11
Good to know I'm not 'the only one'
Although I do attend a non-denominational church (which 'claims to be' utterly non-denominational--taking in Buddhists, atheists etc.--but follows the herd of blind sheep all the same), and participate in 'Bible-study,' I try to keep in mind the fully-admitted fact that the writers of the Bible are only responding to their personal reception of 'the Divine Sound' (as mixed with the Natural Sound, the Renge - cause-and-effect).
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
9 May 11
I was raised Roman Catholic too, and am a Buddhist (seeing as one of Nichiren's writings explained how 'all religions are forms of Buddhism'---they're all centered around 'following one who knows the Light').
That's why I say that "the Word of God" is not 'text of the Bible,' it is Holy inspiration you receive (often while studying the Bible).
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
5 Jun 12
Yup, they're free to choose the path to destruction. They might even think destruction & non-existence are better destinies than joyfully working in Our Father's house forever.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
9 May 11
Hi mythociate, Many denominations within Christianity claim to be the one true church and the Seventh Day Adventists are no different. Even though the Roman Catholic church are being more accepting of others now, their teaching remains that they are the one true church. It starts with the Catholics who are by far the largest Christian church, and continues down to some who have only one or two churches and a hundred or so followers. The whole thing is crazy and for many just a money making racket. Blessings.
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@ClassyCat (1214)
• United States
8 May 11
First of all, let me say that the Seventh Day Adventist Church is 'not' the only church teaching truth. They are as doctrinial as the olden day Sadduccees and Phairisees.
Their beliefs vasillate between some Old Testament laws and a few New Testament teachings.
One of their laws is the Jewish law forbidding the eating of pork - another is the strict observance of the Sabbath. Yet Paul in Romans chapter 14 told us to not judge anyone for their sabbaths or dietary laws, etc.
And as far as the statement about the Lord building His church on Peter - - that is a Catholic teaching, that is not solid either. The Lord does not build upon humanity, for we are all frail and imperfect.
It was the "statement" that Peter made that God was referring to, that His church would be built upon - - that is that HE (THE lORD) "IS" the Christ, and therefore the Lord of His church (called out ones).
There is no specific church (denomination), that is 'thee one,' but a many membered body of believers world wide.
The key focus should be on 'relationship' - not affiliation with a denomination. When You invite Christ into your life, He will then add you into the invisible realm of His Spirit, within the true church of God.
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
9 May 11
Like Pastor Jack (of the non-denomination sabbatarian Gospel Celebration Fellowship) says, "I don't follow a church, I follow Jesus!"
The story goes that the first Pope Peter wasn't actually Simon Peter, but some guy who stole that name.
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
9 May 11
Well, they do admit that 'people are people'---that there are going to be some in EVERY church who are "saved," just like some in 'their' church won't be ... which is why they need to TRASH that definition of 'church' and bring it back to 'called-out ones.'
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@lsdshrooms (214)
• United States
8 May 11
That is why I hate all of this stuff. None of it, NONE, is the complete truth. So many lies, and turn arounds, and falseness. I hate all of the religion stuff, it's either dramatised or fake.
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@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
9 May 11
'Thinking I know' is the worst sin this animal-body of mine commits
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@madteaparty (2748)
• Japan
8 May 11
Well, to put the words "truthful" and "church" in the same sentence is a contradiction itself, as religions have been created since ancient times to control over the ignorant and weak minds of people. I think all religions should stop claiming being the only truthful one and start admitting that they're all wrong and what they claim makes no sense.
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@visavis (5934)
• Philippines
8 May 11
Hello friend nobody can say my church or their church are the only truthful church because even in the bible mentioned there in Revelation about perfect church but when you can see they have own pitfalls, their weakness and others. Today those who claim their church are truthful among others - no comments about but just check themselves... see you around