Barack Obama for (Former) President, 2012!
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
14 responses
@Idmega2000 (127)
• United States
12 May 11
I think he has prove himself to be a true leader, i will sure surport him
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
12 May 11
Yes, because saying that he's done anything about the border problems, and mocking anyone who thinks he should, is "leaderhip".
Because spending more than almost all presidents before him, then talking about the importance of balancing the budget, is leadership.
Because celebrating a "rapper" who calls for the murder of cops is "leadership".
Because riding around in his gas guzzling "Obamamobile", while telling the rest of us we need to cut down on fuel consumption is "leadership".
Sorry, these aren't examples of leadership, they are examples of lies and hypocrisy.
He's nothing but a Chicago thug in an ill fitting POTUS suit.
Former President Barack Obama, 2012!!!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
12 May 11
Not harder to find someone more competent, heck, Hillary would have been a better president. Not harder to find someone who can beat Obama.. pretty much any Republican who stands up for Conservatism and doesn't act like they need permission from the Democrats to run can beat him.
But Obama does have his support among the independents, and he does have his $1 billion war chest, so it would be a mistake to discount his ability to win.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
12 May 11
Yeah, Really Good would be nice!
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
13 May 11
Of course you could! However, even YOU have to admit the GOP field is really, REALLY pathetic. I honestly don't think there's a single one who would have the slightest prayer of winning a general election and that's BEFORE the primary season which we all know will be brutal with all the fighting among the Republicans.
Annie
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
13 May 11
It's too early to tell anything about the opposition party at this point of any presidential election. Remember, at this point in the last presidential election, Hillary was the heir apparent and Obama was still considered "not really African American" by most Black leaders.
The fact is, any Republican who stands firm on a conservative platform and doesn't act like he needs permission from the Democratic Party to run can beat Obama. In fact, Obama has already made it pretty clear that the last thing he dares run on is his track record... basically, just like before.
The only thing stopping between the Republicans and the White House in 2012 is if they (once again) ram a candidate down the throats of the voters who can't excite the base.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
13 May 11
If anyone excited the base in 2008, they would have beat Obama. Yes, Obama enjoyed a big win, but anyone who offered up real competition would have had a good chance against him.
Obama showing up in El Paso to announce it is now safe on the border, and how he somehow finished the fence is proof that he's not only incompetent, and an inhuman oaf.. he is also a lying, pro terrorist, pro slavery piece of trash.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
13 May 11
I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree here, Ted. I suppose there might be a Republican nobody's ever heard of who will suddenly appear but I don't see that happening. I also don't think a "conservative" by today's definition has a chance in a general election. The nation as a whole may not be far left but it's also not far right. Every single potential candidate as of this moment has either tremendous baggage or are totally unknown and have virtually no chance of getting the GOP nomination.
Basically, anyone who would "excite the base" will crash and burn in November.
Annie
@carolscash (9492)
• United States
12 May 11
I personally like Obama as President. He may not have done as much as he hoped to do, but he does have to deal with the support of the Senate and House which is usually not the best of situations.
I believe that he has some great ideas, but that things need to change overall in the world of politics.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
12 May 11
He could have at least tried!
He said he would open the medical coverage enjoyed by Congress to all Americans... he didn't even try.
He said that if we didn't pass the "Stimulus Package" unemployment would go over 9%.. it actually went higher than he said it would if we did nothing.
He called it a "jump start to the economy", yet two years later, his supporters are still telling us that we aren't giving it time.
He said he was against military tribunals at GITMO, yet he is holding them. He didn't even try to stop them.
He said he would close GITMO, he didn't even try.
He went to El Paso to make fun of everyone outraged by the murders at the border. He lied saying he has completed the border fence.
Your hero is a waste.
@lawdude (237)
• United States
13 May 11
It depends upon whether the Republicans nominate a credible candidate with the capacity to lead, not just panderers who quote the lie promulgated by propagandists on the right that the solution to all our problems is to reduce taxes. If I hear the Republican cliche "We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem" one more time I will puke.
Bush inherited a budget surplus in 2000-2001, then in 8 years borrowed 2 trillion dollars (mostly from the Chinese) to finance tax cuts (mostly for the wealthy) and 1.2 trillion to pay for the Iraq and Afgan wars. This was the first time the country ever reduced taxes in times of war! The tax cuts did not produce the jobs promised (big business mostly invested overseas) but along with the Bush deregulation policies created real estate and stock market bubbles that burst in 2007-2008, resulting in the recession and unemployment we now have. In case you want to blame the Democrats, don't forget we had a Republican Congress from the time Bush was elected through the end of 2006. At the time the Republicans were not complaining about spending and deficits.
So the Republicans have to nominate a good, pragmatic candidate who will not just pander to the Tea Party and supply side tax cutters but will do what's necessary to get the job done-- a Harry Truman or Ronald Reagan. Despite the right-wing mythology that surrounds Reagan, he raised taxes twice to solve the deficit problem and fix social security to make it sound at the time the baby boomers would retire. He also was pragmatic in foreign policy--contrary to the right wing playbook at the time-- by negotiating arms control with the Breshnev and the Soviets.
Unless the Republicans nominate a good candidate, Obama will be returned to office.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
13 May 11
Unlike your propaganda that the right thinks that the answer to all our problems is tax cuts?
Sorry, but Clinton's "surplus" was a trick of smoke and mirrors. It was done through unfunded mandates to the states and "off budget" spending.
But I agree, if the Republicans don't nominate a good candidate, they will have (once again) squandered the opportunity, because Obama can't run on his record.. and has no interest in doing so.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
13 May 11
The surplus was in the budget not in the debt. He had the Government making more money than it was spending this was because of the Economy at the time that he got from the rules that Bush Sr. put in place. So actually the housing bubble came from Clinton. So what we are seeing now is Bushes Economy. It is just weird to me that people don't seem to understand how the market handles things and well the delay in policies effects being seen.
As you can see here.
http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16
Also remember the econ was doing really well so clinton had very little to do with it.
@lawdude (237)
• United States
13 May 11
I'm baffled by the supply side theory that reduction in marginal tax rates on upper earners necessarily creates jobs and prosperity. Where is the empirical evidence to substantiate that?
Bush I raised taxes near the end of his term and Clinton increased the marginal tax rate. As an apparent consequence, the bond market rallied, the economy prospered, and revenue rose, producing a budgetary surplus by the end of the decade. But tax cuts under W and interest rates that arguably were artifically low under Greenspan produced relatively anemic job growth. The only ones to really prosper were corporate insiders and those involved with the financialization in the investment banking industry.
@imnobodyspecial (318)
• United States
13 May 11
I know that the 'Obama question' is an emotional one for most people which is a poor way to choose a Presidential candidate or elect one. Emotionalism does not lead one to make good choices in any area.
There is a great deal that sitting Presidents attempt that never meets the public eye attempts to close Gitmo failed for many reasons. The stimulus package was an attempt that did not guarantee success yet it was an attempt.
Unemployment has been dropping, this is a cyclic event which other Presidents have been also suffered through and been blamed for by the public.
The American public seems to forget that each President inherits both the problems and solutions of the previous administration.
Bush did not continue policies set by the Clinton administration that lead to a balance budget, Bush did institute a policy of borrowing, a war in Iraq, Afghanistan which have cost trillions.
Politicians do not control businesses although regulations can in some instances be a good thing. Quality over quantity,and business will sacrifice quality for the sake of profits. It's the nature of the beast.
People look to large corporations to create jobs, yet there is an unfounded potential in cottage industry which would not only create jobs but thousands of nw businesses.
Some politicians believe that by cutting fundamental financial resources for untold thousands of Americans will not only lead to a balance budget but also allow for economic growth. This is a fallacy.
America's problem is spending yes, but it is also a revenue problem, the collection of revenues due to the body politic. Every proposal I have read floated by the conservative faction has been one of reduced or eliminated benefits for those who have spent years paying for those benefits. I have yet to see any proposals by either faction to collect the past due revenues owed, revenues in the trillions of dollars.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
13 May 11
He never even attempted to close GITMO. His "stimulus package" was never meant to stimulate anything but his buddy's bank accounts and his own re-election campaign.
Unemployement is still higher than he warned it would be if he did nothing.
Politicians don't usually control business, but Obama has illegally seized GM, he ordered a merger between Crysler and FIAT (making Crysler a foreign company), and lynched the CEOs of many corporations.
He's nothing but a Chicago thug!
You can't balance anything without getting spending under control. Obama and Congress has spent more money in the last 2 years that was spent by almost every other administration put together.
He has no interest in cutting his spending, because that would mean he has to take some responsibilities while in office... something he outright refuses to do.
He's rather lie about finishing the border fence and laugh about all the murders on the border.
Oh, and talk about reduction in benefits? While Obama goes around saying that the Republicans will destroy Medicare HE is the one who reduced it!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
13 May 11
Imnobody, again, then why did he say he finished the fence?
I'm not saying the fence is so all important, I'm saying that Obama lied about finishing it.
Just once, I'd like to see someone defend Obama on his own merits, instead of just pointing out that he's no different than anyone else. Especially since he was supposed to BE DIFFERENT.
No, the Obamamobile was built brand new for Obama. He could have insisted on a hybrid, but didn't. Like Gore and all the other eco phonies, Green is for everyone else, not him.
@imnobodyspecial (318)
• United States
13 May 11
Actually he can't. He can ask for funding, funding is allocated, he signs the bill. done.
Over simplification.
Do you realize how many miles of border the US has? How impossible a wall or fence actually is? How ineffective such measures will be? Like I said a feel good exercise.
There has never been a sitting President that has not lied to the public. It doesn't matter what the lie was, it was a lie just the same.
People complain about the "Obamamobile" during a time of high fuel costs, yet it is the same basic vehicle that has transported Presidents for the last 40 years, an armored vehicle, period.
A single person has expressed his opinion about Obama in a positive manner, he received not reasoned debate or response, but vitriolic ranting about his person of choice. Emotionalism not reasoned response.
Once again you attempted to inject emotionalism into what might have developed into a constructive debate, the reference to 'your mother', murder and Obama mocking my grief. Once again I respond with no emotion but reasoning. Reasoning based on research, gathered information from multiple sources.
Since this has dissolved into an emotional issue I have decided to discontinue with this thread, my apologies to the original poster.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
13 May 11
Just copy it, paste it, and plaster it all over the internet. ;~D
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
12 May 11
I believe that I could fully support him in his retirement from office. Just think of all the activities he once again engage in that his job prevents him from enjoying now.
He could go back to church and publicly embrace Jeremiah Wright. He could listen to whatever rap artist he wanted to, even the ones who sing about killing cops and his predecessor. Michelle could eat all the tamales she wants to without anyone calling her a nutritional hypocrite.
Sadly, his retirement would probably afford him fewer international vacations and he wouldn't get to play golf as often.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
12 May 11
Since his retirement would still give him plenty of money, and more time, I'm sure he'd be able to spend a lot more time on the golf course.
I think he should go back to just being Husband and Father.. he seems very good at that.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
13 May 11
I think he plays golf to avoid dealing with the hard issues, especially when he doesn't have a clue what he's doing or what should be done. Therefore, I think he will play golf a lot less once he's retired. He will probably go on a speaking tour and charge enormous fees to explain how he was our last, best hope and we rejected him.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
15 May 11
Wonder where they'll put his presidential library. OR for that matter, WHAT will they put in the library since he won't let us see ANY of his personal papers.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
13 May 11
I think I will have to agree with you on this I think it is a job he can do just fine. I am not voting for him and I am not voting for the clown the Republicans will more than likely choose to run for president.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
12 May 11
I'll take a case of those buttons and a couple of boxes of bumper stickers too...
Hussein O Past it for a T-Shirt has a nice ring to it too.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
13 May 11
This is my work, but feel free to take it viral. :~D
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
13 May 11
I'd vote for BO for "Face I'd Most Like To See On A Postage Stamp" anytime!
Maggiepie
"There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it." ~ Edith Wharton, novelist 1862-1937
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
13 May 11
Oy. Can't wait. Email me the answer. This, I want to help go viral!
'Night!
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
13 May 11
Way t'GO, Tedster! Are you selling these as bumper stickers, letter stickers, or even as badges? If they were small stickers, I'd love to stick them on envelopes! I'm positive WND would be a good market for them! ;o
Maggiepie
"There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it." ~ Edith Wharton, novelist 1862-1937
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
13 May 11
Feel free to copy them as much as you like! Let's take it viral!
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
13 May 11
This is your fault. You woke me up! But I really will be off here soon...
Maggiepie
"There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it." ~ Edith Wharton, novelist 1862-1937
@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
13 May 11
I won't be supporting President Barack Obama. No matter what! I will vote for someone else! Heck I don't know yet! I am not sure who is all running. When I do then I'll decide. Until then,I will wait.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
13 May 11
That's the thing, we don't know who will be running. We only know that Obama can't get himself to run on his record... or on anything resembling fact.