Voting against your own self interests...
By Taskr36
@Taskr36 (13963)
United States
May 14, 2011 7:12pm CST
This is something I've been hearing a lot of from Obama supporters. If you vote against Obama, you are voting against your own self interests. He wants to raise taxes on everyone making over $200K or $250K or whatever, so if you make less than that, you should support him. A CNN reporter acted like the Tea Party attendees were foolish because they were probably getting tax cuts thanks to Obama.
I can tell you that yes, I got a tax cut after Obama was elected. I also got extra tax refund checks after Bush was elected. It didn't make Bush a good president and it didn't get me to vote for him in 2004. Likewise, it won't do anything to make me support Obama because I don't vote based solely on whether or not I get a tax cut.
It's against my self interests to have a government that violates the 4th amendment hundreds of thousands of times a day molesting adults and children at airports with no reasonable suspicion, probably cause, and certainly no warrant. It's not in my self interests to know that the president appointed a secretary of education who wants to segregate LGBT students from "normal" students. It's not in my self interest to support a president who has appointees that talk about putting sterilants in the water supply as population control, or who think polluting the atmosphere is a good way to decrease global warming.
Basically, anybody with half a brain has interests beyond simply how much money, that doesn't belong to the government in the first place, he is able to keep.
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7 responses
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
25 May 11
Okay, I think the way I put it was "best interests" not "self interests". It makes the point and just sounds a little better which I realize wasn't your point..
Lets look at it. As a Democrat and a liberal (so I'm told), I think huge corporatons that are outsourcing jobs should not get tax credits and should certainly not be exempt from paying any taxes at all while medium size companies that are furnishing good jobs to my neighbors, family and friends go under. I am not against business but I know what business is doing for or to me and mine. I do not think that is the case with many Americans. They vote for the very people who not only destroy them in the end but also pledged to destroy them from the beginning.
I would agree with you that it is not entirely a case of money but those who cry "class warfare" everytime someone on here says something negative about big business do not see it that way. Nor do they see it in tems of their own best interests.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
26 May 11
Your big business vs. small business issue is comparing apples to oranges.
I agree that there should be changes to the tax code that gives cuts to organizations that ship jobs overseas, but sadly, neither party is doing anything to change that. It's been in effect for decades as control of both houses and the presidency has changed back and fort. Any "exemption" is because you can't tax profits made outside the country. Yes, that can be exploited, but it is what it is.
Then you mentioned medium size companies that are "furnishing good jobs" going under. That really doesn't have much to do with outsourcing jobs overseas. Smaller businesses are always hit harder in a bad economy simple because they don't have the credit to fall back on that big businesses have. This isn't because they are good or big businesses or evil, it just is what it is.
The fact is that big businesses are furnishing good jobs in this country as well. Toyota, Ford, Disney, Universal Studios, Walmart, Microsoft, etc. create millions of jobs in this country. For some reason though, we only hear about them when they are forced to lay off workers or move jobs outside of the country. Meg Whitman was called evil for laying off workers when she ran Ebay, yet the amount of jobs she created and the people who earned a good living were never mentioned. Nobody talks about when small businesses lay off employees because, although the percentage may be larger, the actual number of people laid off just doesn't look as good in the headlines.
I just don't understand why you are saying:
"They vote for the very people who not only destroy them in the end but also pledged to destroy them from the beginning."
Who are these people pledging to destroy you and how exactly do you think you will be destroyed?
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
16 May 11
As long as people who understand nothing of economics and very little of anything else believe that Obama is going to pay their mortgage and give them free health care while plundering the coffers of 'the rich' to send the money to them, he will garner a lot of votes. It's pretty sad, but it's one of the pitfalls of democracy - people get to vote even if they don't know what they are voting for or about. And in an ACORN world, the number of people who vote increases beyond the actual living population. Wow, I just depressed myself.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
16 May 11
You depressed me too! 
You put it in such undeniable terms.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
15 May 11
No, they don't even have to go that far. Just send a request to the Federal Reserve. A PRIVATE corporation, that we now owe trillions of dollars too.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
15 May 11
Actually, they all have it bassackwards.
Any vote for 0bama is a vote against our own self interests, and is a vote against our Republic, the Constitution, and our way of life.
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
17 May 11
Maybe there will be so many on the government free ride train hand outs will get even slimmer then they already are.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
16 May 11
Well he thinks if he says it enough people will start believing it. But honestly I don't see how voting for him in my "self interest" at all...therefore I won't vote for him. I don't care how many times he says it, it does not make it true.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
15 May 11
So in other words, he's bought their vote. How Democrat of him.
