Heaven And Hell

well,, what can i say, there are so many testimonies about heaven a hell, i really dont remember their names but one ladie is from korea, she also describes hell, and its kind of different of the way many others desbribe it, it can be many different hell places? or just different brains? we cannot forget that our mind is so powerful that we can dream something so clear almost in high definition heheh , i experience a dream that i really love to remember it so real that when i woke up i was mad because it was only a dream, i really would like to know if god is so powerful why he uses this weak messengers? theres many and all of them tell their own version.

hi Edsss, do you find heaven or hell, both are there ,but you does not not find them,you may not find them any where they are with you only,all are your thingkings only,if you think about pleasure it is your heaven and if you think about worries it is your hell,take it for granted you can dig your heaven and hell within you only,have a nice day

Hi edsss17, If God is presence is everywhere I don't understand why the need to come. Coming from where or coming to. If religion mean a second coming of Jesus then they can stop looking, the way He was treated He must be scared of all earth creatures.

Sorry but it is just another fantasy of which we have seen many over the years. It proves nothing except that some people have vivid imaginations

Its very hard to speak when you don’t know the things and even nobody can make you sure about these things. But I could put my opinion here. In my view that god does not come in real between us to show us his identity rather than he creates the environment so that we could feel that someone is there with us in the bad time. Yes there are incidents when we feel that there is no solution left and solution arises. How this is possible.

Based from the start it seems that I don't want to be interested in to continue the article about Angelica Zambrano that she have seen MJ and even Pope in hell which was very hard to believe. Even the fact that I am a Roman Catholic I have this thinking as well if we are gonna be reincarnated or most likely our soul will be in some good place such heaven and hell which is applicable to all people and not only to the Christians and Catholic. I mean practically speaking all of us are dying so where would be the souls go? Meaning if you are Muslim and Buddhist you won't be accepted to heaven because your religion was different even if you were able to be the good samaritan on earth? As if there is categories for people whenever we die.

Thanks for the link, couldn't go through entire site, but was very good and I belive that Angelica is telling the truth.

Hi edsss, It's good that you respect everyone's religion but please don't be upset by this because some strange things happen to people. The world is not about to come to an end, that is not the way things work. If you want to find God, go within, into the silence. The Bible says, "be still and know that I am God". Blessings.

GOD sometime give a little of GOD's secret to the GOD'S creature. Just to show that there is a price about what we have one in this world.

I truly respect your discussion. I have learned so much from different cultures, religions etc., and it is with a open mind and open heart that I was able to do so. While I was growing up my grandparents took me to church every sunday day and night and on wednesday evenings when I was with them. When I was younger at home, my parents who did not go to church always sent me with my dad's brothers and sisters. I never understood why my parents did not go to church and why they MADE me get up on Sundays and HAVE to go. BUT, I will say I am at peace with religion. I have walked away from how I was raised in the religion my family was on both paternal and maternal. I turned to another religion and for various reasons because I cannot judge people as some of the Bible thumping religions do, I am very much at peace with changing and going to this church. I just want all to be loved and accepted regardless of race, culture or creed. After all God will judge us on how we treat others too. I will embrace a Syrian woman as easily as I would a protestant. I can learn something from someone each day and I always look to learn something new.

Hi bunso! I've recieved an email from our pastor long before this post of yours about the so-called Angelica Sembrano saying about her revelations about heaven and hell,haven't read the email yet bunso but the title itself gave me a hint. Haven't read also the link you've given but I know for myself that I will just wonder about it if it's true or not. True or not,it will not matter to me at all bunso. I believe that for as long as I believe in our Lord and have faith in Him,there's nothing to be afraid of. But honestly bunso,what I'm afraid of is the end of the world which I know is near. WE just really have to be prepared for His coming and hope that we are included in His paradise. Goodnight bunso! Sleep tight and don't forget to pray!

I see four main possibilities. The girl is delusional . . . in which case we can ignore her, outside of possibly helping her. The girl is making it up . . . in which case we must ignore her. The girl was visited by God, or an emissary of God . . . in which case we have to question the Lord's logic in showing this particular one individual the "truth" and making everyone else suffer and doubt. The girl was visited by an imposter spirit . . . in which case we are better off ignoring this. Three out of four to ignore and one very confusing "God" possibility. I am going to ignore and carry on. We always seem to be at the "End of Days", but humanity manages to survive. I trust in the collective spirit of mankind. Too bad individual humans aren't as resilient. Rat Out.

My Lord said "If you love me, you will keep my commandments," and the only commandment he gave regarding the future of this world is "BE NOT TROUBLED!" Were there other ones that I missed because I was busy keeping that one?

Religion plays a vital role in your views.

The testimony of that girl may be true or may not. It could be fabricated or it could be true. But no matter what, as far as I am concerned, I don't need any other testimony. The Word of God is enough for me to believe there is heaven and hell. His Word is my only valid proof and basis that Jesus will come again to redeem the redeemed and I am happy because I am one of those redeemed. So while to many, the end of the world is a fearful thing, to me it is a glorious event. It is a fulfillment of His promise and that promise we Christians do await with gladness as we sing this hymn of Fanny Crosby: [i]"Redeemed, how I love to proclaim it! Redeemed by the blood of the Lamb; Redeemed through His infinite mercy, His child and forever I am. Refrain Redeemed, redeemed, Redeemed by the blood of the Lamb; Redeemed, redeemed, His child and forever I am. Redeemed, and so happy in Jesus, No language my rapture can tell; I know that the light of His presence With me doth continually dwell. I think of my blessèd Redeemer, I think of Him all the day long: I sing, for I cannot be silent; His love is the theme of my song. I know there’s a crown that is waiting, In yonder bright mansion for me, And soon, with the spirits made perfect, At home with the Lord I shall be." [/i] -- God bless everyone!

neither exists.

edsss17, I'm confused. Some of the things you say sound Christian but a Christian should not respect other people's religions. Well I suppose this depends on what you mean by "respect". There was a discussion on myLot recently about why some people disrespect Islam. As you could probably have predicted, there were responses that the Muslim who started it didn't like, it got very acrimonious and ended up being deleted. However it did make me think about what constitutes respect. Is it more respectful to be polite and bite your tongue or to tell the truth? Not an easy question. I also think that respecting people is different from respecting their religions. The Bible says that there is only one God and anybody who is not for Jesus is against him so Christians should be opposed to all other religions (however we should be more accepting of different forms of Christianity, which does NOT include Mormonism, the Jehovah's Witnesses etc.). Also Judaism was originally a genuine revelation of God but the Jews (mostly) refused to recognize the Messiah. Anyway, I thought I had better things to do with my time than read through the whole article and watch the video. Therefore I'm not sure if this was a genuine revelation or not. I can believe that Michael Jackson and even Pope John-Paul II are in hell. I have issues with the claim that God is coming right away. What does this mean? The second coming, the apocalypse (perhaps if I'd read all the article I'd understand what this meant), something else? In a sense God is always everywhere anyway but he does seem to be more strongly present at certain times and places. Jesus shouldn't return until the apocalypse and then should reign of earth for 1000 years. I don't think the apocalypse is coming that soon (what's soon, in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, Aslan says, "All times are soon to me."). There are clearly a number of things that need to happen first and haven't. However I do think we'll be seeing some of these things happening soon. I strongly suspect that the present troubles in the Middle East will soon lead to a huge war and some other disasters (e.g. famines due to the oil supply being disrupted) that will kill a quarter of the world's population as prophesied in Reve 6:1-8.