Does it matter what school are you from to get a job?
@totallyundecided (3190)
Philippines
May 23, 2011 10:53am CST
I just read an article in Yahoo Philippines about the Philippines having four universities in the Top 200 Asian Universities.
Then I browse by the comments.
Someone said that "it doesn't matter what school you've graduated. What's important is how you perform after graduation."
But in the Philippines, that has always been the case. Popular Universities always gets to be the first to be interviewed and most of the time - gets the job. I find it unfair reading this but it's painfully true.
How about you, friends? What's your take on this one?
Happy lotting!
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21 responses
@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
23 May 11
At some places, yes, it matters. Here in the U.S. it can certainly matter. If you have gone to the Ivy League schools such as Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Brown, or schools like that, your chances of getting a job are very high, if you have gone to a state college, depending on what state, your chances are fair, if you have gone to an online school or what is called "for profit" schools such as American Career College, University of Phoenix and schools like that, your chances are pretty low.
Also, connections. If you have great connections with people, then you can get yourself a great job, and if you have marketable skills. You have to be what employers are looking for.
@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
25 May 11
Are you kidding me? Don't believe for a second that the Philippines is the only country in the world with this problem. This happens everywhere.
The U.S., United Kingdom (Great Britain mostly), certain countries in Europe, and several other countries all have this issue.
The better the school, the greater the chances for a job. Great Britain started this trend hundreds of years ago, and it still continues to this day.
You would be so surprised as to how many people there are, who cannot get jobs because of this problem.
Trust me on this, if it is happening in the Philippines, more than likely, it might happening in other parts of the world.
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
Yes. The connections sometimes is the key to getting the job. Once you are being "referred by" - you can really get the job.
I thought my topic only happens in the Philippines - I am aware now that it also applies to most countries.
Thanks for your response, rogue.
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
24 May 11
say I don't think that coming from popular university in the period would guarantee that you would land the better job than those from less popular universities or colleges . I tend to agree that he is the skill and what the person can go and can bring the company would what matters mostly . I would see some people coming from very popular universities and would end up with call center jobs which I think is not good job for those who had a diploma.
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
I agree ,hotsummer. Employers should not underestimate applicants who came from less popular universities because they might be the potential ones to be the next big thing.
I like your name. Hot summer. Fits well to the season we have now. Thank you for the response, hotsummer. Always be hot.
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
24 May 11
yes, I agree.. I have heard in our place that usually when fresh graduates apply for jobs, the companies always prioritize the applicants from presigious schools. Maybe because of the training they undergo in top schools- but I think they should also give others a chance..
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
Just like my mind and heart says, how I wish they would always give others a chance before finalizing who gets the job.
@gloria14r (67)
• India
24 May 11
Yes its true in some cases; usually it happens in case of campus interviews where the management of the organisation selects the best top schools/ colleges to hire the students and fill the vacancies. But i say there is nothing to be worried about it, when you have the real talent in you, whereever you go you find the job. At the end what matters is how good are you at the subject.
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
I felt good reading your response, gloria.
If only the employers have your thoughts. You got my BR.
@jasmin_niza (362)
• Philippines
24 May 11
As what the old saying goes: The truth really hurts... and the truth is, the quality of education really differs from each university. You pay much to get a reputable school. In my case, i graduated from a government university, since i know of this practice, what i do is i choose to hire those who came from my university and other state university, instead of those coming from the private schools - they will be hired somewhere else anyway :)
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
Your response made me smile. But you're still a little bit biased. LOL.
That;s okay. You have your point that others who come from prestigious schools will do get hired in other companies. Very cool.
@sfleric (83)
• China
24 May 11
I think it is conditionally true.
I have to admit it is absolutely an advantage to get especially the first job of one's career.
But several years later, it doesn't play an important role as former.
At that time, your experience and performance will determine whether you are competent of the job.
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
True. The potential of one can be recognized through his performance in the company once getting hired.
@youless (112481)
• Guangzhou, China
24 May 11
Although sometimes people say it doesn't matter where you graduated. The employers will pay more attention to your ability. But actually the school is quite important. As a fresh graduate, the school seems to be a main element to judge your ability. According to two candidates who just graduated from schools. One is the famous school and the other is just a normal school. I think the employers tend to employ the candidate who comes from the famous school. Because they start from the same line. But graduating from a famous school can tell that he must have a good achievement.
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@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
Most cases are just like what you said. When you graduate from a prestigious school, they already have this formulated thought that you went through great training and etc. That's why they take you as a choice in getting the job.
@strawberrychocodahi (4818)
• Philippines
23 May 11
It does not matter what school you are from and I really don't agree when you said that others prefer to entertain applicants whose school was reputable than yours. It does not matter these days what school you are from, what the employers and companies look for in an applicant is how they do well during the interview and exams.
Your resume speaks something for yourself like what you have achieved, your experiences and skills. It does not have to be all about your Alma Mater. I do believe that some employers do favor if you have a back-up or mentor before you join in, but school, nahh it's not the issue with regards to being hired.
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
How I wish most employers would think that way, strawberry. But here in our country, Philippines, it really matters.
And yes, back up and mentors can also help you get in. Who you know these days matters too.
@o0jopak0o (6394)
• Philippines
23 May 11
Well its unfortunate that the school sometimes matter if the company you are working for are biased on some school or not. I have a foreign company worker friend(that company hires international workers because of their industry and he is one that reviews an application or something. I don't really know his company position) that has asked me if what school did i study and he gave my school as a example. At first I was a little bit shocked because he really does not know anything about the Philippines or even where it is.
I am a little bit glad and saddened at the same time that school may be a factor in getting a job.
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
It is a trend that I want to change but I can't blame them. Other schools are also competitive when it comes to academic trainings and etc but in the end - it's always on the name of the school that matters.
@Bellapop (1279)
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23 May 11
It shouldn't really matter as long as you get good marks. Depending on what job you are applying for and which employer, it sometimes does matter to the employer which school you been to. I know that there are some companies who employ people only if they have studied at Oxbridge – ridiculous I know but it's true and it's the rules they have set.
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
It's very sad to know sometimes that most companies are just set to accept applicants from a certain school. Ridiculous indeed.
@lou_is (665)
• India
23 May 11
Yes friend, for few companies it requires a lot while attending interview on that company. But it is not for all the companies. Because few companies admits that if candidates came from good or high society school then they are good in thinking and achieving or reaching the targets and many more reasons. May be because of all those reasons they look for candidate who came from good schools or colleges.
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
I agree. It has become a generalization that once you graduated from this certain very popular school, you are as a fragrant as the most exquisite perfume.
If only I could change that kind of thinking to the company bosses.
@marapplestiffy (2182)
• Philippines
23 May 11
It matters here in the Philippines!
I remember the time I was reviewed together with someone who graduated from a less reputable university, the interviewer was like where is this school, is it accredited...etc..
This was the reason my father wanted me to finish my degree in USC, and I thank him that day, because it's really already nerve wracking going to your first interview and it's so hard if the interviewer makes you lose the little confidence you've mustered...
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
I, on the other hand, had my experience also. I was the one who came in first in the office for the interview. But guess who was interviewed first, the guy beside me from a very well know university. I find it unfair really.
@amritaarora (49)
• India
23 May 11
Probably , it does not matter what school you studied for getting a job , but may be it would matter what High school or college did you study in ? ?
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
Also. That's the case. Most universities also evaluates the high school that we come from before accepting us. It happened to me before.
@th52096 (469)
• Philippines
23 May 11
I partially agree on this, that it does matter what school/university you are coming from. Usually top universities, have higher passing rates or they passing percentage is higher than other schools as to guarantee to only get the best of the best. The hard working ones. The good ones. :] Companies know this so they of course always go for the good, popular, well-known, college that is known to have graduates that are good and hard working and the best at what they do.
@totallyundecided (3190)
• Philippines
24 May 11
True. Most companies really goes for the popular and has a better reputation school among the others. If only they would go through each of the applicant and learn from them their potentials. Not from the school they're coming from.
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
24 May 11
We should put so much emphasis into the schooling we came from. It soesn't change us as a person or make us better able to do the job. cxoming from an honorable school does help the job resume but it does nothing for how you will perform. only your talents and skills can do that for you.
@ellebj (784)
• Philippines
24 May 11
WHen I entered college, I chose the school which i think could mold me into a responsible, independent and competent individual. The name of the school is 3rd in my list. We can't deny the fact that the name of the school is attractive.. But it is only your stepping stone in the professional world. Retaining the position and be promoted depends on your performance.
@Sanitary (3968)
• Singapore
28 May 11
Yes, i agree with that statement. It doesn't matter what school one has been to, what's important is how one perform after graduation. Though students of a prestige school has added advantage of landing the job, but if they don't do well, they will be sacked as well. Coming from a good school does not mean they are assure of their jobs. If they are not able to hold on to their advantage, it's too bad.
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
25 May 11
Ideally it shouldn't be the case, what matters is the work ethics and performance. But in the real world, sometimes it does matter.
I have been in a situation before when there was a job fair for a national bank. And I guess to make the screening easier they segregated all those coming from those schools you've mentioned. I felt at that time it is very discriminating of them to do that.
Considering the point of view of the employer, given the numerous unemployed graduates willing to get in that vacant position,I think they will prefer to get the best out of the pool. And a candidate that stands out is one that comes from top schools.
So for those not on the top, maybe they can power up their resume by doing good in their scholastic records, having part-time jobs while at school, being active in socio-civic programs, enhancing their leadership skills. These things will improve their CVs and get higher chances of being employed.
@kareemadivina (1230)
• Philippines
30 May 11
In the the past maybe it doesn't matter; but now with the high unemployment rate, global crisis and competitive market,some employers just prioritize those who graduate from prestigious schools.However, if you don't have opportunity to enroll in these schools at least be enrolled in a university and try to have good grades.When you will apply for a job the second thing they will ask next to your diploma is your transcript of records.If you can, try to have more trainings and certificates.You can also develop a skill to so you can have morejob opportunities.