Herman Cain - Is He Out of the Picture?
By kenzie45230
@kenzie45230 (3560)
United States
May 26, 2011 10:22am CST
I was concerned about Herman Cain from the beginning, because I'd heard that he was against auditing the Fed. People have tried to clarify his position on that, saying that he didn't think it was necessary but that he wouldn't oppose it. I definitely think it's necessary.
Then today I read that he had flip-flopped about an issue that many think is important. He used to say that he would not put a Muslim on his cabinet if elected as President. Now he has flip-flopped on that.
Here's the link: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/37679/fraud-herman-cain-does-180-on-islam-would-appoint-muslims-to-cabinet/
Do you think this is important?
What other conservative candidates would you like to see running or elected?
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4 responses
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 May 11
I admire Debbie Sclussel, but here I think she's not correct. I think Herman Cain is balanced on the issue. We have to realize that when 'sound bites' are used we are not getting the whole picture. Even in the original 'sound bite' where he made the statement of 'NO, I would not'; he explained why. In this link he explains further why he said what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8jGnpbED9E&feature=related
I see this as merely him explaining further, not flip flopping.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 May 11
I would be interested to know what the other Republican candidates stand on this.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
27 May 11
If it's a problem then why this jump in approval?
http://campaigntrailreport.com/2011/05/27/cain-expands-iowa-lead-and-gains-voter-confidence-while-pawlenty-makes-first-move/
He's way out ahead in Iowa already according to this.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
29 May 11
Kenzie, here's the archives to Herman Cain's articles on WND. Take a look at the subjects that interest you and see if you can agree with them. It is the only way to make up your mind, research what he says, not what people say he says.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php/?pageId=43&authorId=225&tId=8
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
27 May 11
I am not sure if he ever was fully in the picture to begin with I mean he still will be in the picture because he has the same Ideas as Ron Paul and can get some of the people to support him that are more socially conservative than Ron Paul.
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
27 May 11
Sounds like he's not well prepared if he didn't know that Obama sad he has the authority to assassinate American citizens who have been declared terrorists and enemies. That was surely discussed in forums when it came out. That someone who wants to be president would not have heard that is bothersome.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
29 May 11
He's honest. He said he doesn't have access to information like the president does so how can he give a complete answer.
Thanks for that link dark_joev.
As for the Patriot Act, what I read was he'd be open to changing parts of it if it was a concern. I am definately in his camp when it comes to a president ordering the killing (assasination) of an American citizen if suspected of terror. I've been saying for years that Obama held that opinion and pointing out the CIA report that targets Christians and even vets as 'possible' domestic terrorists. So, of course I'm with Cain on this. CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE having a president who said it's ok to assassinate American citizens, just let that sink in. I'd of been on it if I knew he'd actually said it, but like Cain I wasn't aware.
All in all, I got a good feeling for the man's character in reading what he said. And I'd trust him. He sounds like a man who would not be politically correct and even to change his mind if the situation warranted it. That's important in a world that can change in a millisecond. With a man of character, honest and willing to take the heat that is a good thing.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
27 May 11
Wishful thinking is all that is. He is a factor, you just don't look in the right places for the evidence. 
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
19 Jun 11
Personally with issues such as this, I think overall there are other issues that should be more important to worry about, and since it is only June who knows who will really have a chance to be still wanting to be in the Race come next yr. I personally think anyone who is good people will try to cut down especially if they are not believing the way you do. It is only natural for others to try and cut down someone if they are not for them.
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
24 Jun 11
I think we have ignored important issues long enough. There are many important issues and if there are no candidates to address them all, we'll stay in the sad shape nationally that we're in now.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 May 11
I was very concerned about him when I'd heard he'd "attacked" a past opponent and accused him of being "pro-choice" for believing there should be an exception for victims of rape or incest. I know that's almost "mainstream" for today's elected GOP officials but it isn't for the majority of the American people. When I heard of his blanket statement about not appointing any Muslims in his Administration I became VERY concerned.
What if a male Democratic candidate were to say he would appoint no women in his Administration? Heck, what if ANY male candidate said that???
What if someone said he or she wouldn't appoint any Jews or Catholics or Mormons, or even Baptists or Methodists?
Or Hispanics or Asians or Italians or Germans or Russians...?
At any rate, I'd say if Cain really did change his viewpoint on this, that was a good flip-flop but I still wouldn't want him anywhere near the White House given his other views and the fact he'd ever had said that to begin with. This isn't to say any President has to go by some kind of "quota" for any particular group but to make a broad statement against an entire religion is very prejudiced, in my humble opinion.
Annie
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
30 May 11
I started studying Islam in 1969 when my boyfriend's best friend told me one day as we waited in the car together, "You know I have to kill you." What? "Yes," he said. "If I cannot convert you, I have to kill you."
Since 9/11 I've read even more. At one point, I was in a forum with women who were Christians and Muslim so we could discuss and learn from each other. What I've learned is that we don't want a Muslim anywhere near the White House. Ever.
Yes, you're entitled to your opinion. Hopefully, though, it will be an informed one, and not one merely made because of liberal media.
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
29 May 11
I was fine with him saying he would NOT appoint a Muslim. I was not fine with him taking that back.
