A country that doesn't allow to divorce

@youless (112586)
Guangzhou, China
June 1, 2011 3:01am CST
I just know that the divorce is not available in Philippines. To be frank, I am surprised to know it because I think that if the marriage is available, so is the divorce. It sounds good because it asks for people to be serious to the marriage because it is a whole life thing. But what if the marriage is not good at all? How to deal with it since the divorce is not available in this country?
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@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
5 Jun 11
as long as Filipino's love their parents, Divorce Law will not be legalized..... what's next???? a man legal to marry a man? an a woman legal to marry a woman? since many of the countries now legalized it.....
@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
5 Jun 11
I am not sure whether the gay marriage is legal in Philippines or not.
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@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
5 Jun 11
man married unto man, and, woman married unto woman is legal now in different countries as well as divorce... and abortion as well.... i am not a fortune teller but i am better when it comes to prediction.... and the only i can predict is: if DIVORCE Law is selected to be Legal here in Philippines, as well as RH-Bill is also legal here in the Philippines, then Man-to-Man marriage and woman-to-woman marriage is also legal here in the Phils. then Abortion is Legal also here in the Philippines....
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• Philippines
4 Jun 11
it is a pity but for me i am pro for divorce. for me divorce is good for couple who have marital problems since a country with no divorce a couple could separate but not legally since they still consider married. even some enter a new relationship they could not get married and could be sued for adultery so to welcome changes divorce need to be implemented.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
5 Jun 11
I also agree that there should be a divorce law, but of course people can try to avoid to end their marriage.
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
2 Jun 11
I was not aware about it that divorce is not available in Philippines. There may be some other legal recourse available for separation to end the marriage?
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
There is something called annulment, but I think it is still different from divorce.
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@yspmyl (3435)
• Malaysia
3 Jun 11
Really, this is the first time I heard about divorce is not allowed in country like Philippines. I think that is good since if people know that they cannot divorce after they got married, they will appreciate the other half better and they will definitely be really careful in choosing the right person. It is just like some shop that with the term once you have purchased it, you cannot return it.
@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
3 Jun 11
It has the advantage and disadvantage anyway.
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2 Jun 11
hi youless, In my opinion,Goverments shouldn't prohibit divorces,but implicitly encouraging divorce is wrong,also.As far as I can see,in my place,the percentage of divorce is almost 20%.That is not a low figure,our goverment should be reponsible for this phenomenon,beacuse divorce is an easy job for the citizens,people can only spend about $10 to get the permission to divorce.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
It seems that the divorce rate just gets higher and higher as time goes by.
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• Philippines
1 Jun 11
There is a process called Annulment but it will take long before the Marriage will be dismiss. And also cost a lot. I know it's not fair to the children if they grow in a broken family but isn't it more unfair if they grow in an stressful and unhappy family where the parents always arguing, fighting and hurting each other?
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
1 Jun 11
After the annulment, can the divorced couple get married with another later?
• Philippines
1 Jun 11
yes youless, annulment is the legality to separate but that does not mean that this two people can get married again. they can go on with their lives but no longer have the right to marry again. some people get together after the annulment and some just grows to be friends. so maybe thats the reason why some people would love to have divorce here in the Philippines so that they can marry again.
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
2 Jun 11
I beg to disagree seven. There are 3 options to get out of marriage in the Philippines. Annulment, declaration of nullity of marriage and legal separation. Annulment means the marriage is valid but have grounds for nullification. Once approved couples can remarry. Declaration of nullity of marriage means that the marriage is invalid from the very beginning. So it means, they haven't been married at all in the first place, so couples can marry again. In legal separation, the marriage is valid, however it gives the couple the right to live separately, dissolves their conjugal partnership, child custody is given to the innocent party and the offending spouse doesn't have the right to inherit from the innocent spouse. They are still married in the sense, so they cannot get married.
• United States
2 Jun 11
Back in the Day when European countries didn't have divorce either, when the couple couldn't make it work , they just separated . the wife and husband would live apart. In the eyes of G-d and the state they were Still married but they lived separate lives. I assume this is what happens In The Philippines.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
But since the couples just seperate, can't they marry to someone else again later?
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@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
2 Jun 11
You are right Sarah. This usually happens in my country when people can't afford an annulment. Only those with money can get an annulment and re-marry again, if not, couples just usually separate and have another illegitimate family.
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• United States
2 Jun 11
Thanks Sweet_pea! It was just a guess! Here in The States many don't even bother to marry.
@celticeagle (168256)
• Boise, Idaho
1 Jun 11
It is weird to hear that in the Phillipines a couple is not able to get a divorce. Ofcourse I also feel that the US is too lax in its law and the judges give people divorces and material items, splitting the households where they had their children and made memories together. It is sad to seperate. I think if people knew they couldn't get a divorce maybe they wouldn't rush in and give it more thought and planning.
@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
But you know sometimes love is blind...
@celticeagle (168256)
• Boise, Idaho
2 Jun 11
Love is that. It is good to make it work unless there are bad traits involved.
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
2 Jun 11
It usually takes twice as much to work hard on it so we can make it work. I think if there is divorce, it will make getting off the marriage an easier option than working out the differences.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
1 Jun 11
I think that the fact that divorce is not available would make the people entering in to one take it alot more seriously. I do think there might be a problem if the marriage turned out to be abusive or insanely unhappy though. I wonder of there are certain situations where the marriage would be reconsidered? Adultry and abuse would be a couple of very good reasons to reconsider.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
I think so.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
2 Jun 11
Hi sweet_pea! Thanks so much for the detail! I am very curious about the ways of other countries and it's very kind of you to explain to me. I think that there has to be a better option than the one I face in this country where divorce is involved. It is a huge thing here. I think that adultry and abuse are the two major grounds here. Even though all those reasons you mentioned might justify the annulment..no one can be remarried after any of those have been declared?
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
2 Jun 11
Hi Jen! We have options for dissolution of marriage, although divorce is not one of them. We have annulment and declaration of nullity of marriage. Another option is the legal separation, however, in the eyes of the law you are still bind by marriage so you can't remarry. Some of the grounds for annulment are the following: insanity, fraud, force, intimidation or undue influence, impotence and would you believe STD (Sexually transmitted disease) Some of the grounds for nullity of marriage are the following: minority, lack of authority of solemnizing officer, bigamy or polygamous marriages, incestuous marriages and psychological incapacity. The latter has often been the most abused reason why couples want nullity in their marriages.
@myfb2009 (8296)
• Malaysia
2 Jun 11
Marriage is one of the most important decisions which should be think twice before you agree. Once you had agreed, there is no turning back and ditched it like old socks. That's why, it is important only to marry the person that we feel we want to stay with together forever.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
If people won't change as time goes by, then everything will be simple.
@myfb2009 (8296)
• Malaysia
2 Jun 11
Yes, sometimes due to too many temptation around, some people tends to change their feeling towards one another. One of my friends recently had gone through divorce due to incompatibility matters.
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
5 Jun 11
Live-In first for 5 years before engaging in Marriage.... Divorce Law to make it legal is not an option.... if in other countries the kid should reach 18 before that kid can separate to it's parents.... then, how about waiting till the time that kid reach 18 years of age before the parents make such Divorce action??????
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
1 Jun 11
Really? I never heard that before~ It will bring no good for bad marriage~ What if couples still want to get divorce? It must be certain law that allowed them to do so as this is bad news for couples who have crisis~
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
It will be very difficult, I guess. At least they don't have the term of "divorce".
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
2 Jun 11
I thought so at first so I am correct. They do have that 'divorce' part but they just don't call it 'divorce'. I think there are all just the same~
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
2 Jun 11
Yes there is such a law, we just don't call it "divorce".
@daiweian06 (1405)
2 Jun 11
Philippines are so serious about getting married and even having a family. I am a Filipino and what I know is that when they like to annulled their marriage they are filing their case in other country like in United States. We can say that marriage is a serious matter. Filipinos are very religious and we are following that rules. In the positive side just like in the wedding vow you will be together in richer and in poorer,and in sickness and heath so it means that you will accept each other no matter what and no back-off. In negative side is just you will stocked on a bad relationship. But you have no choice but to survive.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
It is sad that they have to go on their marriage even if it already fails.
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
2 Jun 11
Hi daiweian! We can file annulment in our country it is just that not many are availing it because the price of having your marriage annulled is quite pricey. They just rather separate, have other families but still get stuck in their marriage.
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8 Jun 11
sweet_pea- This is the very first time that I've heard that we have here in our country. Just like what I know that they need to go to the US or other country just to file their case. Since you said that we already have here now I know. Yeah! I know that it is expensive but why is that even celebrities have to go in the US just to file annulment?
@mandylee (267)
• China
1 Jun 11
It's the first time to hear it.marriage is sth.freewill and the same as divorce.when going into marriage,we hope that we will love eachother forever and lead a happy life,don't want to divorce.but we can not predict tomorrow will be,when the love between a couple fading away,life became insufferable and painful,divorce is the best choice.as for me,after experienced 4 years'marriage which like a nightmare,i had chosen to divorce and i'm not regret to do that
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
1 Jun 11
I just learned it today and it is quite surprising.
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
2 Jun 11
@sweet_pea People can make a mistake and hopes there are options for them to solve problems. Divorcing will not indicate that marriages is a bad thing to do just a way to solve problem which is 'unhappy marriage'. I can't imagine if a divorcee need to stay in a relationship that will not giving them happiness~
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
2 Jun 11
I just found out yesterday that we are the only country left in the world that has no divorce after Malta passed a referendum legalizing divorce in their country. Just like you, I was really surprised too, that every country has divorce. And I was thinking, are marriages that bad to have such an option.
@sjvg1976 (41290)
• Delhi, India
1 Jun 11
Hi youless its great if divorce is not allowed in phillippines thats the way people will take marriage seriously.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
I am not sure anyway.
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
4 Jun 11
Live alone without a partner? No future of children?? They should married someone else I think~
@sjvg1976 (41290)
• Delhi, India
2 Jun 11
Really that would be problem because if they don't take it seriously then there is no way to go either they need to stay with each other or get separated & live alone as they are bound not to remarry & would have to live alone without a partner which i suppose is the worst thing one can imagine as there would be no future of children then.
• Canada
17 Aug 11
There was a time when divorce was not allowed in Malta either, but that law was changed within the last few months. I agree that where there is marriage, there should be divorce. I agree that married couples need to be serious, but there are times, like in cases of abuse, infidelity, etc. where divorce is necessary.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
17 Aug 11
Yes, I think there shall be an entrance and exit. The marriage is the same.
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
1 Jun 11
I think marriage should be a serious thing too. Some people change over the years though, so divorce should be available also after so many years.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
1 Jun 11
I agree with you.
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
2 Jun 11
Agreed. It does not mean we encourage divorce but it can be as a solution only when they are no longer aligned and not incompatible with. Sometimes a difficult process of divorcing cause couples and take the path to living together without getting married and this is absolutely no good~
• Philippines
2 Jun 11
yeah. me too.
@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
2 Jun 11
Yes, Philippines has no divorce but there are lots of couples who are lived in partners and with this, when they separate, they don't have to deal with legalities which to me, it is not right either in the eyes of God and in the law of the land. There is annulment of marriage but some people can not wait for their marriage to be dissolved so they lived in. In other countries, divorce is common but that is better. Get divorce and remarry than just lived in without solving the previous marriage.
@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
In fact I don't know more about annulment and wonder what the difference between it and the divorce.
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@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
2 Jun 11
In annulment, the marriage was invalid from the very beginning, while divorce ends a valid marriage.
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@zhouxi (1752)
• China
1 Jun 11
It's terrible if two people who don't love each other but have to live together.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
1 Jun 11
I think so.
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@zhouxi (1752)
• China
1 Jun 11
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• United States
2 Jun 11
Hi youless, Though I am one to take marriage very seriously as I would enter it with the intent of it lasting forever. Sadly there are much needed times to divorce but see that in the Phillipines it is not allowed. I would suggest if necessary that an annulment be suggested though it is a really long process. We also have the option here as well, but almost like a court situation where as you plea your case and bring in witnesses and a conclusion takes place. There are some extreme cases that definitely need to divorce, though I have heard that some utilize it too easily.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
Perhaps it is better to allow divorce than keeping on the failture marriage because it is suffering for both sides.
@kumakuma (84)
• Malaysia
2 Jun 11
I think they will think 100 times to get married.
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@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jun 11
Of course.
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
5 Jun 11
if the girl is pregnant due to aristocrat, she cannot think 100 times to get married.... getting married is the first and the final option... that is the reason's why the priest will ask if what is your purpose on why would you want to be get married???? the only international answer of that couple is: "Because the girl is pregnant" nyahahahaha and the end result is: a battered wife because they get involved in married that they are not yet prepared in life... but yet capable of making the girl pregnant without thinking 100 times before doing aristocracy....