To Be Or Not To Be "Honest"
By menace730
@menace730 (506)
Philippines
June 6, 2011 11:09pm CST
I try to be honest in everything I do. I have always taught my children this also. My question is...Is it alright to tell a little lie once in awhile. Sometimes it's to save someones feelings...but I I tell my children not to lie...hmmmm...how do I explain this to them. I say one thing and do another. So, is it OK to tell them that there is a time to lie?
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13 responses
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
24 Jun 11
it must be balanced....
sometimes telling a lie can save lives....
especially in Business, Politics, Movie Artists,
you need to be not a honest in order for your career to grow up....
yesterday he is your friend...
today he is now your enemy...
tomorrow i am sure he is your friend again....
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
24 Jun 11
Well mantis I don;t agree with not being honest for your career to grow. If we lie there also...where do we draw the line. I will only lie to save someones feelings as to not hurt them.
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
24 Jun 11
Chinese Businessman here in Philippines do always say "my income in my store is such a low" but in fact it's store sales and income are very high....
this is also a form of a lie....
no wonder why here in the Philippines, majority of the Business Owners is all Chinese...
this is what i mean that telling a lie can increase career....
now in Politics....
if you are Honest, telling to the public about the things that you can't, the people of the Philippines will not vote you that much....
if you are running to a politics, you must tell a lie that you can tackle and promise to do all the promises that you have to the people...
thus, increasing the chances of the running politics candidacy to vote more.... and win the election....
it is another way of telling a lie can increase career....
a good and honest government official will not finish it's term...
while...
a corrupt government official, like a dynasty, will maintain its position to even increase position and career....
If the Philippines is not corrupt, therefore, Philippines is not a member of the 3rd world poor country....
if your salary is too small, how come you can buy plenty of houses, cars, tour around the world, and plenty of money savings????
declaring a LIE for their career to grow....
that is what i mean......
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
24 Jun 11
how about the Movie Artist?
how can telling a LIE can increase career?
they tell a lie in a form of relationships....
yesterday, those two movie artist are Love Team, for the teens to go on crazy on their idols.... hehehe
today, those two movie artist are not a love team anymore, they have their own different Love Team, and the more the teens angry to what their idols did, the more the fame and famous increases....
tomorrow, i don't know whose Love Team is gonna choose...
another form of telling a LIE can increase career to grow....
@didi13 (2926)
• Romania
20 Jun 11
Many people say they want truth, certainty, that they seek, but we must recognize that we are not always ready for the truth. Being in a critical situation, we believe that truth is only that we can out of it, but often not only complicate matters with the finding of realize that we were better before. And not because we like to live a lie, but life that we have is truth, or so believe, why we are so hard to accept another truth that can change our lives. The first step is to want to find, but you sure that this step takes you to the truth because it's finding does not depend strictly on you but also open to those who can help. We can decide If or not we are ready for the truth, but depend on others. I think it's worth it to start to find him, even if the desire to find, does not necessarily mean finding him.
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
21 Jun 11
Yes didi many say they want but are not ready. But ready or not we need to hear sometimes. In the long run we will learn from it. thanks
@anklesmash (1412)
•
7 Jun 11
I think the big thing is why you are lying i think lies can be ok if the lie is for somebody elses benefit for example to spare their feelings.I think the big lesson in life to tell children is to be kind to each other and not hurt eachothers feelings if they learn this lesson they will learn how to act and eventually they will learn without you telling them when it is right to lie.
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
8 Jun 11
Yeah, I guess if we raise them right, they will figure alot of things out on their own through trial and error, just like we did. Thanks anklesmash.
@moirai (2853)
• Philippines
7 Jun 11
Hmm... you ask a difficult question. =P
The trouble with lying is... when you find out that someone lied to you, the thought enters your head that this is a person capable of lying to you, and you begin to doubt whether what he tells you from that time on is a lie or not, or even... which of the things he's told you in the past is a lie and which are true...
You may say you lied because you wanted to save a person from being hurt. But wouldn't the person be more hurt if he/she finds out the truth eventually... and realizes that you have lied to him/her? If it were me, I think I would prefer that you tell me the truth from the beginning, even if it hurts me, than tell a lie. Better that you tell me the truth and let me decide for myself how to deal with it. Did you think me too weak to be able to handle the truth?
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
8 Jun 11
Wow moirai, great answer. I never thought of it that way. I guess we need to rethink about how we tell a friend the truth without telling them a lie. It's a tough situation because you don't want to hurt them but like you said maybe they would rather hear the truth and deal with it in their own way. Great point...thx moirai
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@lila0812 (54)
• Indonesia
8 Jun 11
Good question! I did similar things with you, "don't lie" but then "I must lie in the name of goodness". So, maybe we can educate our children first is "don't lie" when they are still too young to know whether is good or not good. Thereafter, if they already mature enough to understand which is good and which is bad, we can explain "it's OK to lie in the name of goodness", although good or bad is like a thin line. Thanks.
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
8 Jun 11
Yes...we need to wait until they are old enough to know the difference between the two...But like someone else said above, what makes us think that the other person cannot handle their own decision when you tell them the truth? hmmm, I wonder if I could handle someone telling me the truth when it hurts me. Thx lila
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
8 Jun 11
Your right in saying just like me because I have told little lies to save someones feelings. The only question I avoid is from my wife when she says "Do you think I'm fat". If you say yes it will hurt feelings and if you say no, she will say your not telling the truth. That question is a losing situation for men. lol
Thanks sua006
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
7 Jun 11
My brother went through this with his son when he was around 4 years old. My brother had preached over & over to the boy that under NO reason should he lie. Then they were walking down the street & this butt ugly woman approached them. Yes, you guessed it, the son looked up & said...boy are you ugly. My brother apologized to the woman, took his son to the car & began to lecture him on being polite to people...ie not telling them they were ugly. His son looked up at him all confused & replied But Dad, you told me to NEVER lie & she was ugly. My brother was speechless for a bit. He then tried to explain the difference between lying & being polite. He told him he still should NEVER tell a lie; however, if the truth was going to hurt the other person's feelings, then he should just say NOTHING unless pushed into a corner & at that point he should say something polite which was different from a lie. The kid sighed & said make up your mind Dad. His Dad told him to practice being polite for a while & he'd guide him on the difference between a lie & being polite!!!
The BEST way to deal with it is to be the person you want your child to be...they learn from example!!! I don't care how many times you tell them it is wrong to lie; if they see you lying, they are just going to lie!!! After all, they learn from the master!!!
I don't remember ever being confused over the difference between lying & being polite. I guess it just comes natural for some kids!!!!
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
7 Jun 11
Yes Marissa we lead by example...They will learn from us. I guess the best way is to sit with them the way one of the reply's said above and explain why we are telling a lie to save the feelings of another. Or like you said, say nothing at all unless forced into a corner. Thanks Melissa
@swtpareek (650)
• United States
7 Jun 11
Well it is fine to lie once in a while, especially if it saves someone's feelings from getting hurt. But don't tell your children that now if they are very small. These things are better when taught later in life to children. Let them live in innocence and honesty for now.
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
7 Jun 11
Yes swtpareek you are right...at a younger age they will not understand. I should not burden them with life yet...Thanks
@obe212003 (2299)
• Philippines
7 Jun 11
it's a matter of discretion, lol! but the truth is that telling a lie sometimes is necessary depending on the situation, time, people involved and the circumstances that abound the truth. i guess in due time, children would realize the necessity to lie as it tends to justify the means with the end result of giving favor to others appropriately.
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
7 Jun 11
Yes, all situations are different and should be handled according to the situation.
@Octav1 (1419)
• Romania
7 Jun 11
You can explain your children that some innocent lies are accepted when the purpose of the lie is to save someones feelings. You can give them some proper examples so that they won't figure anything wrong about this. A good example is (but make sure your wife is not there when you explain this to your children) when you tell your wife that she seems she has been loosing weight. You know this is a lie, but if this innocent lie makes her feel beautiful, why not?
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
7 Jun 11
Yes...this is what I feel but sometimes I feel like I am telling my children it's OK to lie but I know what your saying.
@denikurniadi (317)
• Indonesia
7 Jun 11
Don't tell a lie. it's not good for your child's psycology and their development. better silent than tell a lie.
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
8 Jun 11
Yes, but we must be careful when we give them the limits of what is accepted and what is not. There is a fine line there that we need to teach them not to cross. Thx for the reply sjvg.
@distyindira (19)
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7 Jun 11
if you are honest to your child. you have given them learning that to be honest is a goodness
@menace730 (506)
• Philippines
7 Jun 11
Yes...maybe I should tell them why I have lied to save someones feelings and let them decide for themselves. Thx for the reply