On Deleting Friends
By debrakcarey
@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
June 8, 2011 1:40pm CST
I have just deleted two friends. I did so because I feel that there is just to much disagreement on our basic beliefs and am tired of the constant disagreement. This is the first time I have ever done this on myLot. Usually, I welcome debate and do not discouage disagreement. Ask friends of mine like Anniepa, we have disagreed vehemently on political issues and managed to remain friendly and even found agreement at times. But today I realized that in the case of these two friends there is very little that we agree on if anything.
While I realize that this will not prevent them from posting disagreements on my discussions, or stop them from disagreeing with me on others discussions, I have decided that from this day on that my friends list will only include those who have shown me that respect to agree to disagree.
Have you made conditions on who is added to your friends list?
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27 responses
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Jun 11
I know what you mean. I deleted one just the other day because he/she rarely discussed anything that interested me and then insulted my country. I'm not sure that person meant to insult my country but that was enough for me and that person was deleted. However, I think that's the only friend of mine that showed me any disrespect in the years I've been here.
I agree with your reasoning about friends. Having good quality friends is so much better than having quantity!
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
This decision was made because of disagreement on core views. I am not so much upset that there was disagreement, as I said in the OP, many on here disagree with me. I am not opposed to differing opinions from people. I've learned a lot from those who have different religions, different politics and different lifestyles. But when people disagree on core values like values and country, when every post contains disagreement on what is important to me as a person, it's time to move on.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
8 Jun 11
Yes I have and anniepa is also on my friends list. Like you we have disagreed vehemently on political issues and managed to remain friendly and even found agreement at times. She has earned my respect as she never resorts to name calling or insulting comments. I have also remove people from my friends list as I have even had "??friends??" who will send ugly PMs and that I will not accept.
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@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
9 Jun 11
Mylot should be fun and we should be able to respond comfortable and freely. It is not fun if people obsess about always being right.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
Anniepa and I disagree on most things. But when I'm down or when I'm needing a smile, she gives it freely and without judgment. I guess I just got fed up with having to feel like each discussion was a chore. And that nothing about my opinions was right, ever. Sometimes you just run across people you do not get along with. It may be me and how my personality affects them, who knows? I've just decided myLot should be fun too, not all serious, I guess.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I have been known to be a bit zealous in my presentation of opinions. with that said, I am learning. There is nothing wrong (as far as I'm concerned) with being zealous. There is a lot wrong with trying to appear superior and above others because of you zeal. If that makes any sense? I am having a hard time expressing just what it is I feel. Not necessarily attacked, just demeaned, made to feel less.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Jun 11
rushes over to see if I'm still there...
phew...
lol
I did delete one who had been very disrespectful to a friend.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
so who is the abducter and the abductee?
Loved the line up segment!
I appreciate you always my friend. You can bring a smile to my face no matter how down I am. A rare thing that is, thank you.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
dear dawn...there are just some friends who will remain with you for life! you're stuck with me!
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
but when I need a friend, you show up. And just because you let me have it once in awhile, you at least don't harp on me over and over about the same thing.
@frontvisions101 (16043)
• Philippines
9 Jun 11
I just add whoever invites me. If I get a hint that the user is a spammer, I deny the request because there are a lot of spammers here on myLot. I don't want my inbox to get filled with invitations and referral links, that's just annoying.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I warn them once, so far it's worked.
I add everyone who invites me too, don't know if I'll be doing that anymore. I also don't know if I'll be inviting as many as I have in the past either. I'll just take it as it comes I guess.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I'm learning that I don't have to take abuse in any form. Its hard for me to actually put that into practice and say this far and no further. But I am trying.
@frontvisions101 (16043)
• Philippines
9 Jun 11
Well, you deleted just two, I'm sure there are many who has the same beliefs as yours. Deleting friends isn't prohibited, that's why the delete button is there, it's us to use.
@ptower76 (1616)
• United States
8 Jun 11
I have not made conditions on who I add. I welcome all. In my opinion disagreement is the foundation of the search for truth. But when it is constant, perhaps there is something else underneath and deleting might have been the right thing to do. While friends agree to disagree at times, agreeing is the common ground of friendships. Just remind me not to disagree too much with you. lol
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
You can disagree, just don't keep dinging at me over and over about the same stuff every post you make.
So, where have you been? I've not seen much of you lately?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
You have to post discussions and response to see any progress!
I'm sure as smart and as experienced as you are in life, there are many interesting things you have to say.
And thank you for YOUR friendship.
@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
8 Jun 11
I refuse to keep hateful people on my friend list. I also do not keep spammers. I guess that is about it. They do not even have to be hateful to me, they just have to be mean and hateful to others.
@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
9 Jun 11
We all have to draw the line about what we will tolerate. It does not feel good when someone gets stuck and will not turn something loose.
@34momma (13882)
• United States
12 Jun 11
i only add friends that i have least 100 by their name. i don't like to add people how don't any numbers because they are trying to get me to join some site to make money with them. as a Money making website owner, I don't want to join anything else, trust me i have a great active downline and some great sites that i promote.
i like to add people who are going to best good topics and come here to have a good time.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Jun 11
Why only add those who have a 100 by their name? just curious...
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
8 Jun 11
As I rarely get into controversial discussions, I rarely have to delete people, though I do remember one who was so rude to me on what I do with my dogs, I did end up deleting them. Like you said, they can still pop up, but this person hasn't, no they only popped up when I made a comment in another friends post... I did make a couple replies, but since it wasn't my post, I left it alone..Of course this person had somehow had my comment deleted, why I have no idea other than they read something into it that wasn't there and convinced the admin that it was wrong..
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I also have friends on my list who disagree with me, after all not even the best of friends agree on everything, but when it comes down to being out right rude and attacking me as a person, I draw the line there..
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I've kept people on my list who disagree with me, it just got tiresome having the same long drawn out disagreement over and over. And not about exterior things, but about things that make up WHO I am as a person.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I guess I just asked myself, if the person doesn't even LIKE ME, why try to be friends?
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
9 Jun 11
hello debra,
I've encountered mylotters in my lists who also disagree with my discussion,but in a friendly manner.
There's also instances that one sounds arrogant-but as long as i can tolerate and no "foul words" ever used than i keep my cool- or else simply report to admin,that's the better way.
I did delete few in my lists,one reason is ,a mylotter who keep posting topics,but never respond or never care to comment back.
Another reason is,a mylotter who skipped and only choose who he/she want's to respond,yes it is their prerogative whether to respond to us or not,but i don't think i should keep someone like that in my lists.
If s/he can not inter-act with me or to my responses,no use of keeping in friends lists- what is friend anyway.
I also do not respond to topics that i cannot relate with to avoid misunderstanding.
It's easier to express our feelings and opinion with topics that we can relate and well understand what the topic starter wants to convey.
So,i don't respond to all my friends started topic..and i am sure they understand about it.
have a great day always
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I do understand your point. I am the sort that really likes a discussion where there are differing opinions. What I encountered though was different than just disagreeing and then you move on. It seemed more like they were disagreeing with who I am as a person and then wouldn't leave it alone when I offered explanations. Usually in a discussion amongst friends if there is serious disagreement on core issues, once each has stated their case it's left at that. I felt badgered and I felt that the 'friendship' would never progress to any sort of agreement. Just to much differences to ignore. It may just have been MY stubborn nature meeting another stubborn nature. I just didn't feel up to the task anymore.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
Oh, I think maybe I had a part in the whole mess. I am not without fault in the situation. I have been known to be very opinionated and I guess my opinions provoked them. I tried to let them know we'd reached an impass and just needed to let it be, but it kept up anyway. When it comes to my core beliefs about life and who I am, I will not bend to anyone but God.
And yes, the disagreement became TO personal.
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
9 Jun 11
I got your point- the disagreement is getting too personal.
I've also encountered one-and that was the time i report that mylotter.
I also do not understand why some mylotter are getting too personal when we never even tried to poke their nose...i just wonder about it too..(^_^)
@allknowing (136089)
• India
10 Jun 11
One cannot get along with everyone and that is a fact but deleting a 'friend' from the friends list will not alter the situation. I never do it. They are there and it is left for me to participate regardless of how many friends I have. As a matter of fact I participate in activities that need not necessarily have any friends in there.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Jun 11
It may not alter the situation entirely, but its given me some peace today! And I'm a one day at a time girl.
I've looked at the tasks, is that what you mean? I didn't understand how to participate fully in that.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Jun 11
Oh...I was just looking through those under 'my interests'. yes, there are so many you could never get to all of them!
@allknowing (136089)
• India
10 Jun 11
I meant any discussion that is not started by 'friends' per se. There is an ocean here to choose from.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Jun 11
I realize that not everyone will always agree. I have no problem with disagreement. If you look over my responses here you will see that it was not simple disagreement that prompted me to delete these two people. It was the way they chose to disagree and the refusal to accept that I wasn't going to change my mind. Some of their posts to me were bordering on insulting. Calling into question my core beliefs and even my sanity. I'd had enough of their badgering and veiled insults. It's pretty hard to ignore when your told you're unstable or that you are not following your core beliefs because you honor war veterans.
You are correct in that I had the right to take action. While I cannot avoid them entirely, I can certainly limit their access to my posts by making it a little harder to find them.
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
9 Jun 11
Hi Deb!
I did once not long ago. I hate when she repeating posting discussions about condemning others and never feel thankful for her country. If she don't like her country so much she should not blame it as she live there happily and get enough of everything. I would say that I am disagree with her more than I could agree with her statements. So I decided to deleted her from my friend's list and never meet her till then~
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Jun 11
I don't agree with everything about my country. But I will not accept insults. I can handle someone saying this or that is wrong. I can handle someone not caring for decisions my president makes, or the Congress. This wasn't disagreement, it was dislike for all that is America, the people, culture.
Hopefully, they will loose interest in following my discussions.
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
10 Jun 11
"Have you made conditions on who is added to your friends list?"
Dear Debra, I have almost 800 friends. When I first came here I came with no one and as soon as the FR requests started pouring in I began adding everyone. Though I do not condition anyone for two months I am finding it wise not to simply add. Only because of the almost 800 only about maybe 100 are active. Though I am only one person, I do try to keep up with everyone. However, I will not, and never be accused of simply posting, therefore, if I cannot relate to a topic I just cannot respond.
So for about two months now I keep them in pending for about a week or so I can see what their activity is like. Most have never interacted with me before and you know how it is when we are searching for a friend on a list it can be a nightmare.
I have not had problems with spamming but must add that if anyone does and I nicely ask to please do not and they continue then I will have no choice.
As for agreeing to disagree, I live by these words and if the other party does not agree then I will simply ignore. If the person continually seeks me out to deliberately disagree then I will have no choice but to delete and also depending on the nature of the sought out disagreeing may also ask admin to assist.
See what a good person you are! You decided it would be best to delete as opposed to continue to disagree, though the person may still seek you out, at least you know it is the person who is intentionally doing this and not that it is coming from you.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Jun 11
Oh, I don't know how 'good' of a person I am, I still get pretty upset when I think about some of the things that were said.
But myLot is teaching me to hold my tongue and think things through. Part of that learning was to admit I could NOT change the mind of either of them, and let it go.
I don't know how many are on my list, I look at the friends started and work my way down on the ones that interest me. If it is a slow day on the lot, I go to new or hot discussions and take it from there. I will also browse the interests up top or the discussions listed along the right side of page. I try to be as active as time will allow and I always try to go back and respond more than once.
Ignoring the ones who just want to argue is my next 'phase' of learning on myLot!
Thanks for stopping by Hardworkinggirl!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Jun 11
Ok, I see. Yes, they were coming to my discussions. One didn't ever post his own and the other rather infrequently. Now that you mention it, they were posting on my more controversial discussions. Oh well, its the past. And today was a good day!
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
10 Jun 11
I say a good person because rather then keep the members there and or continue knowing that it may not end well you decided to spare them instead of the continued torture. lol
Thought they are the ones who enter your topics they do so knowing that it will not end well. See they enter, meaning they are the ones who continue to intentionally put themselves through this, therefore you as the good person decided it was best for both to get some breathing room.
You will find that ignoring works really well.
You are welcome.
@saigonwarrior (1331)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I have deleted a few that have sent me inappropriate PM's. But, none because of arguments. Which, I agree would become tiring after awhile. It would be nice if when we delete that we could also have the option to block these people from viewing our discussions.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I have thought that too. But, life is such that we really can't hide in a hole and avoid ALL unpleasantness. It just doesn't have to be on a daily basis.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
9 Jun 11
Well done debra,
Friends are for sharing, caring, agreeing, disagreeing and all with valid points. If you say something on a universal topic and I find something missing there (intentional) I would not gear back to say lo lo lo. I will point them out and if they were unintentional you have to accept the mistake.
If on the contrary you start beating about the bush how come I would convey my ideas to you.
Mine too getting too much crowded and sit down one evening and see who is not there more than a year.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
10 Jun 11
Your point touches the ground level reality. Say for more than a dozen of issues India and Pakistan do not agree for which the whistle of enmity between the two exists since the partition.
All know that Kashmir is the bone of contention between the two besides the militancy matters.
And therefore India and Pakistan have never been friends though some political protocol is still being maintained. Out of ten points we could agree at least upon one. But when that too does not happen better take own ways.
@imnobodyspecial (318)
• United States
9 Jun 11
To delete or not to delete...
I think part of what becomes an issue is that many of us forget that this is an online discussion forum, that no matter what we personally believe or do not believe has no affect on others, other than that which they allow it to have.
We here at Mylot are an extremely diverse group, we come from all over the globe with different cultures and experiences, which in turn affect our views.
As our views and concerns are merely words upon a page, the reader has the choice to observe, consider and comment or not as they please. If there is something that bothers you that is written it is easily disregarded and further commentary by that poster can be ignored or not as you please.
Posting to and replying to those who agree with you doesn't leave much room for debate, or even argument as the case may be. While dissenting views and comments make for an interesting read by yourself and others, and sometimes something even becomes resolved.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
All you say is true. The key word here being 'resolved'.
The only thing I would add is we may all have differing views, but seeing people as inferior becaue of where they live or what they believe is never an acceptable thing.
@alansailing (74)
• China
10 Jun 11
hi there , just take it easy , this is online friendship. Yeah , I fully agree with you , if you really find little agree on with these two friends. just can stop talk with them. And if they are continue to post the disagreements on your discussion , then you can stop them. Nice weekend!!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Jun 11
words are words whether spoken face to face or typed on a screen, and have the same effect in both situations.
But yes, I understand what you mean by online friendships.
@amitgune (877)
• India
9 Jun 11
I understand that opinions differ from person to person which is absolutely fine. But debates should be healthy and each person should respect the other for his or her views. I have never had discussions which have ended in bad taste in myLot. So I have never set any pre-conditions to adding friends. But then, who knows the future?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
I am happy for you that you've not had a bad experience here. And I am sure because you are a man of respect and intelligence that no bad experiences will follow you.
I hope that remains to be true! Nice to meet you amitgune.
@gamma9967 (607)
• India
9 Jun 11
Its alright if you just deleted two friends because you have a firm reason for it and there can be disagreements of thoughts but before deleting them you must just have talked to them and try to sort out the issue.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jun 11
oh believe me...there was talk. Much of it was to no avail.
And welcome to myLot gamma9967, may all your friendships here be happy ones!
@gamma9967 (607)
• India
9 Jun 11
Thanks a lot for your welcome and if you talked and still you reached a point where you have to break up your friendship then it is good may be they will never understand what friendship means.