What do you do when your elderly relatives cant cope with life?
@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
Australia
June 18, 2011 1:43am CST
My great grandmother is of this age. life is becoming so hard for her i don't see how see will be able to go on living by herself. Her back has 3 broken vertibrey that are that entangled with arthritus that they can no longer be operated on and at her age they have choosen to leave it and just prescribe pain killers which she is too stubborn to take. She is very wobbly on her feet and moves so slowly. She can hardly hear or see but refuses to live with family and lives alone in her house where she wants to stay but its not safe. She is cooking herself rotten food, her house is becoming dirty because she cant see the dirt to clean it anymore. I think its time she moved into a nursing home or with family but she wont come without a fight. I think she wants to be able to look afterself, but she cant anymore.
How would you approach this situation? When is enough enough? When does it become a safety hazzard leaving her to fend for herself? Have you ever been in my situation? please share with me your ideas on how to handle this subject. My grandmother is very stubborn but a beautiful strong woman i love with all my heart.
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@celticeagle (166761)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jun 11
Ofcourse she wanted to be able to take care of herself. One thing you could do is have Home Care come out a couple times a week to see her. ALot of areas have Meals on Wheels. My mother was like this. She was realistic and did move into a Nursing Home and I took a different job that only part time and was able to spend the afternoon and evenings with her.( I was only child so it all fell on me.)
It sounds by what you have written here that she is not in a position to take quality care of herself. If she is left in this situation she is going to sustain and injury and then you all will feel bad and wish you had done something earlier. Do it now so you can have some postive last memories of this woman before it is too late.
No body said it would be easy, just very worthwhile.
@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
• Australia
22 Jun 11
She is at that point we have tried to let her continue her own way, but she really cant look after herself any more. as sad as I am to admit that being the strong woman she is. I would love 4 her to have 1 of us live with her. There is alot of room in her house, but she knows that which ever family member does it they are doing it 4 her and she wont really allow it. she is very alert, stubborn and believes she is still capabile, when she just can hardly see, hear or move around safely anymore. as another respondent mentioned of their grandparent in a similar situation. Thanks for your response, my grandmother has myself my mother my aunty and other family and friends to help care for her. she organised a daily phone call from red cross herself which they call and if she doesn't answer the send someone out, i am worried she is waiting to die. She said she wished she could go to sleep and not wake up.
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@celticeagle (166761)
• Boise, Idaho
22 Jun 11
A person gets tired when they are aged like she is. I wonder if she might enjoy going to a senior center once or twice a week. People her own age, activities, etc. I am glad to hear of the red cross call. My grandma was very independent right up to the last. She was really bad with her seeing and one evening someone came in the house and wouldn't say anything to her. It scared her. And after that we clamped down hard on checking the doors at night and coming and checking on her. My mom and I moved back to the area about that time and found a house three doors down so that was nice. We took our evening meal with her and visited. I think the best way to go (and hope I go this way)is just to go to sleep and not wake up. My grandmother did and I think now that that would be the best way.
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@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
• Australia
26 Jun 11
That would be great if we could get that close but she lives in such a fancy area that i doubt i would have the money to do that anytime soon. There is extra bedrooms at nanas house if someone could get her to agree to them living there to help look after her, cooking and cleaning and just watching out for her it would be great!
Yes i guess it would be a preffered way to go and i know dying scares everyone but i dont want that to happen at all. Thanks for the chat.
@m_perez (506)
• United States
19 Jun 11
Maybe you should talk to her and convince her that it's best for her to stop making the family worry and accept living with someone who is able to take care of her. Maybe you should hire a nurse for her, although judging by what you said she probably won't like that. It's horrible when people age and they are no longer able to do the stuff they used to. Maybe she just doesn't want to put a burden on anyone's shoulders well at least that's probably how she see's it, but I know her family wouldn't see it as a burden. Well Good Luck to you and your grandma.
@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
• Australia
26 Jun 11
No she wouldn't but i agree that it is not all about what she would like anymore and more about what is best for her interests its very hard to try and convince someone that they can't look after themselves anymore especially when they have been doing it for that long its become what they know and all they have is their independence at that age. It's very sad the way life goes.
@SimpleBB (1329)
• Philippines
18 Jun 11
I can relate to this message. I do have grandfather who still believes that he can do everything himself, but just like what you have said, obviously he can't. In your situation, you mentioned that she can't move that normal ways before. For sure she is a good woman for you to love her dearly. In that case, why don't you gather your family once a week to go her house and tell her how you missed her and want to have lunch with her. By the time you're in her house you would be able to have a chance to do the chores unnoticed. Do it for several times, until she got used of fun brought about being together and soon, she would be the one to request/invite you to be with her. In due time, she would realize that she needs you all in her remaining days. I just hope this will work.
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@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
• Australia
26 Jun 11
It's such a hard predicament i am sure it would be a very difficult thing for anyone to accept that they can't rely on themselves any longer that they have actually lost their independance and not just hoping it never happens. Yes we do try to visit as much as we can. Thanks for your responses this is the approach we have tried to take but cant get their exactly weekly but between everyone it's close to it she sees someone from the family or circle of friends in a week. Its such a scary thing age.
She doesn't mind letting us help out a little around the house but i know she has always kept a clean home and feels kind of offended or something if you re-clean something that she cleaned. Maybe because it was an effort for her to do or maybe because she cant see what she missed and thinks your fussing. There are alot of things she lets us do when we are there she never used to want us to. My family is becoming very worried about her when we are away. I think ome kind of live in arrangement needs to be agreed on so she is happy and safe. Then the rest of the family wont have to worry so much.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
18 Jun 11
This reminds me of my grandmother (my father's mom)
She doesn't want to live or stay with her kids and prefers to live alone in her house.
She was really old then and also a stubborn.
So,my cousins who lives near takes turn to checked her in the morning before going to work and the small kids to accompany her when it's weekend and no school days.
I guess some people we loved doesn't want to be a burden and tried to live on their own.
It's even harder to argue with them.
@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
• Australia
22 Jun 11
yes it's so hard to make her see sense of the whole situation. I think your right about feeling like a burden when the family only wants to help.
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
19 Jun 11
Hi there,
This is really tough my friend as my grandmother, though not maternal, she was my grandmother, who passed away 4 months ago. She was 95 and lived alone. She would not live with any of her children matter what they encouraged and or the physician advised.
She could barely walk but was very much alert and therefore, no court of law could force her to not live alone. I would probably suggest that all caring family members hold a nice meeting with her and suggest to her that maybe it is time for her to rest more by being taken care of. I am sure she will continue to object, but maybe she will realize you are all asking out of love.
Is she on Social Security? If so maybe a home nurse even part-time could be allowed to come there and stay with her. She may not be happy with it but maybe that would encourage her to get a little help.
I know you mean well as her safety is your primary concern. Bless her and all your caring family towards her.
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@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
• Australia
22 Jun 11
Yes well all love her very much. It's hard to accept for her that she needs the help. we are making her get all defensive, but we don't want her to fall or hurt herself without having anyone around to help her. she has a cleaner that comess once a week and dusts vacuums mops and does the bathrooms. nanas kitchen and surfaces are still however dirtier than I have ever then them in my life and the only point i have kown her to have a cleaner.
@gEa_88 (67)
• Philippines
18 Jun 11
I can somehow relate to your situation. My grandparents also wanted to live by themselves, stubborn even with their different illnesses. At first we let them be, when you grow older you wanted to be someone who is not a burden but others wanted to be a burden intentionally especially if its the only way they can get loved one's attention. Then as long as you keep contact, like updating in there status every now and then, and constant communication is a must. I even had a hard time convincing them to use a cane since it seemed embarrassing to them but I explained that its for safety, unless they want to be confined in the hospital,which they don't want hehe. Then we came to the point, after all the logical explanations of concerns and such, they decided to move in a house just a few meters from us. In your case, with family, a nursing home or a private caregiver is a part of your choices. You know your grandma well, then you should know how to convince her with loving words or rational words, whatever applies. Casual talks seems ineffective and usually goes in a direction of arguments and fights. Oftentimes a private heart to heart talk is all they need. Like "Grandma, we both know about your present condition, about you sickness and your age, It's not that we think of you as a burden and neither are we taking away your independence,we are so proud to have such a strong grandma like you, But please let us assist you whenever we can, you under our care, as long as time allows..." etc,a hug is also good;Then let her take her time to decide since it will not be easy for elders to give in and lose authority. We love our grandparents and it is never a good thing to leave them by themselves, deep inside they don't want to be alone or abandoned. And as we grow old too, we would want to use our least independence and at the same time be cared for. Hope it all goes well with your grandma. Tc.
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@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
• Australia
22 Jun 11
Great response. We have to handle this situation delicately as she is very stubborn and her independence is basically all she has left at this point. she lost her partner a few years ago to illness. She is in her 90's and very set in her ways, i like your approach.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
20 Sep 11
Personally I think this is the hardest thing sometimes is getting someone to want to move from their home when they are getting too old to be able to care for themselves. The hardest part is even though they may not see the need they are being stubborn and just not realizing that someone else being able to help them would be the Best. I would plan a family meeting to decide what is best and check for someone coming in and helping out even a couple of days, etc. It sounds like something that is definately not going to be easy.