Changing the "dress code"
By Wizzywig
@Wizzywig (7847)
June 18, 2011 10:04am CST
I have been told by my line manager that there are plans to change the "dress code" where I work. They are to relax the rules on wearing necklaces but tightening the rules as to what colour our hair can be. I dont believe that the colour of someone's hair affects their ability to do their job and it represents neither a health & safety nor a hygiene/infection risk. I have coloured streaks of my hair in assorted shades since before I worked in this position &, at the time of my interview had cerise & turquoise. No-one has ever commented in a negative way. My options are: to conform; to resign; wait to be dismissed...
If you are an employee, have you been affected by dress code rules?
If you are an employer, would you dictate the colours your workers hair may be?
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Jun 11
As an employer, it would depend on the type of business it is and what your job does. If you work around people in a professional atmosphere, then I would make a dress code relevant to that. If you work "behind the scenes" then I would not worry much about it other than safety/health.
I work in a bar, it does not matter the hair color, or tattoos or piercings (I have none but the others do).
When I have worked in offices, the dress codes are much more stringent.
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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18 Jun 11
Thank you for commenting. As you say, a dress code is relevant to my job. I have never deviated from the current dress code...short nails, no nail varnish, no neckchains, no piercings, no tattoos, hair tied back when long enough, no excessive make up, tops & trousers as issued with no modifications, black lace up shoes and black socks so I think they could cut me a bit of slack for a purple fringe
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@BarBaraPrz (47292)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
18 Jun 11
I think I'd wait until somebody said something to me directly and then make my case. When I was first married and working in a print shop, the owner's wife complained about my "unprofessional" clothing. I told her they were the only clothes I had and they didn't pay me enough that I could afford to buy a whole new wardrobe. And that was that.
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@GardenGerty (160642)
• United States
19 Jun 11
I did work in a nursing home where upon hiring the Director of Nursing told us that if we were going to wear white pants as part of our uniform we could not wear colored underwear that would show through. I respected that. She was very upfront that it was unprofessional. No belly buttons showing either.
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@BarBaraPrz (47292)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
19 Jun 11
Good point, Wizzy...
Gerty... no colored undies w/white pants is just common sense...
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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18 Jun 11
Nice one! So far, I've just been given a "heads-up" that this ruling is on its way - I dont have a timescale. Given how they are so adamant that they operate a policy of "Equality & diversity" I reckon it has to be either NO hair dye at all (which will freak out all the blondes who want to be brunettes & vice versa & all those people of a certain age in high positions touching up their roots) or ANY colour
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@Galena (9110)
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18 Jun 11
I agree with you. there is not a single job in the world that you would be less able to do with dyed hair.
there is no place I would go into where, if I saw the person had purple or green or blue or pink or red hair, I would think they were less able to do it than someone with blonde or brown or grey or black hair. I wouldn't respect them any less than someone with natural hair colours.
it's personal choice, and I can't think of any job where dyed hair would be innapropriate.
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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18 Jun 11
Thank you for your comments. The fact that I have done this job for 3 years with assorted colours (currently I just have a dark purple fringe which isnt really noticeable) would confirm that I can. My job entails tending to patients personal needs & none of them have ever objected to being washed/toileted by a purple-haired carer
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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18 Jun 11
Yes, many of our patients are 70+ & they seem to like it... as did the children when I was teaching. I think its probably the "suits" at the top of the organisation as the ward sister & Matron have no objections. I'll see how things go... I'm prepared to take a written warning if it comes to it - as my colleagues have said "you wouldn't be you without the purple".
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Jun 11
We're pretty casual here. When I first started working in an office, where they were more formal, I was told that my wardrobe was a little too casual, and I told her that I was buying things as I could afford them. I think they would have looked down on hair colors that didn't look natural. But in this office, I think it would be fine.
Anyway, I think I'd discreetly look around and see what other jobs there were, just in case it came to having to make that choice.
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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23 Jun 11
Yes, thats pretty much what I'm doing. I have been paying into the work pension scheme so would prefer to stay in the same company until I retire but, at the moment, I have the possibility of trying to get early retirement with a reduced pension. I've also bought a big hairband
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@wongchoiyee (7413)
• Malaysia
18 Jun 11
Honestly I think that working in professional firm like legal firm or hospital would not allow employee to dye their hair like green colour because they look like a rock star and not a normal working people. I am not trying to hurt you but I think its better to follow rules when you are in somewhere else to stay for a period of time.
Have a nice day
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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18 Jun 11
I am not at all hurt by your comment. I asked for opinions & you gave yours (thank you). I have always adhered to every aspect of the current dress code -right down to the black socks that no-one actually sees. Believe me, I look NOTHING like a rockstar . The longest I would stay in this job is another 3 years... but,we shall see...
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
3 Jul 11
Hiya Wizzywiggal,
It´s not fair and I don´t think that it distracts anyone really unless they want to be distracted anyway.
Okay it´s not the norm to have hair colour like that but for me that was before.
When I was at School you could not have hair colour like that as you would have been sent home and other things.
If before when we went into Battle and wore that blue wode colour on our faces what is the difference now?
Okay we are not doing Battles anymore and we are not Bravehearts running around with our faces painted are we but in some parts of the World they still do it don´t they?
I have a "Nephew" who was given the push eventually for wearing his Hair in braids like "Rasta" style and very long too tied back in a sort of ponytail with his trousers half way down you know how they wear them.
What on earth that has to do with how he does or did the Job I don´t know. I must be really modern because it seems like one rule is for one but not for all at the same time.
Because of this he is now out of a Job and I hope the Person who sacked him just because of this realizes at least that he cannot judge a Book by it´s Cover.
Once we had a "Transport" Lad come to the Door I was almost taken aback and you know I can vouch that he dresses just like "Edward ScissorHands" except that he did not wear the Scissors of course.
But his hair style and everything else the leather clothes the lot and he is as pale as the "Edward" in the Film and quite snappy to match the Character too.
In my heart I felt really sorry for this lad he is not what he seems to be should they sack him because of that after all he does his Job well and he smiled from ear to ear when I gave him a tip as if he could not believe somebody could be nice to him.
I was quite moved when I saw his face like that as when you first see him he does seem a bit "aggro" but he is´nt really.
I have seen properly dressed People doing their Job and felt quite sick at the way they were and probably still are.
So I don´t think that the dress code should be so rules and regulations.
The Duchess of Alba quite often dyes her hair all colours and no one bats an eyelid well I suppose that is because she has pots of money and anything goes.
Duchess of Alba is related to the Royal Family both sides of the Ocean as well. But I can´t imegine the Queen wearing "blue hair" for some reason lol.xxx
@Wizzywig (7847)
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3 Jul 11
I dont know exactly when this rule comes in to effect but I'm not about to totally change my appearance at this point. I'm doing the Race for Life next weekend so its gonna be PINK!!! & it wont have washed out by the time I start work on Monday morning! I am considering applying for early retirement or voluntary redundancy tho I dont really want to leave the job.
My son had some 'spray-on' blue hair colour about 10years ago. He asked my m-i-l if he could spray it on her & she gave him short shrift!! My mum let him do hers & it looked fabulous once it was combed thru. She kept it in for 3 or 4 days.
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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3 Jul 11
I think I'd sooner give up the job than the hair but, yes, I have made some good friends over the last 3 years & I would really miss it because we're quite a close team.
I dont know how strictly they will enforce it... they didnt enforce the "no jewellery" rule very tightly. I know that my immediate managers dont have a problem with it but, they wouldn't risk disapproval from higher up by letting me get away with it - they have a lot more to lose than I do. The first thing would be a verbal warning, followed by a written one. I'm just going to carry on as normal until I'm told officially. I've bought a big black hairband that I could cover the fringe with if I have to, or I could ask for a transfer to somewhere out of public view... or wear a hat/bandana. Or I could shave it off & do my whole head purple with facepaints!!
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
3 Jul 11
Hiya Wizzy,
So you are thinking of giving up the Job then altogether? Is it because of that the dress code thing?
Oh and you are going to go all Pink for the Race For Life.
No it´s true you won´t be able to wash it out by Monday. If you don´t what would they do then are they laying the law down about it then?
It would be a shame for you to give up the Job because of that. You must have made loads of Friends too along the way.
Not only that being very good at your Job can´t they or don´t they value that anymore?
I would give it a while and see how things go maybe they will lax the Rules a bit in time.
At the start of that sort of thing it´s all you must do this that and the other but they might just calm down?
xxx
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
13 Jan 12
Well many times places of Business do have rules and regulations they have to enforce in order to keep the company a good place to work for. I know where I work they are way too lax on a lot of things, and it is sometimes a shame. Personally though I am afraid to wear too nice of clothes for Fear or ruining them, but sometimes what I have seen in the past, or even now a Dress code a little more stricted would be a plus.
It is 7 months since you started this discussion, and I hope that things did not end up too bad, and you were able to come up with some form of compromise. When it comes to keeping a job anymore many times people have to do things beyond their control just to keep it. But to change something so drastic and then say this they would have to have other reasoning behind it as well I would think.
@GardenGerty (160642)
• United States
19 Jun 11
I have had to have certain items of dress to work certain jobs, but do not recall them changing on me at a later date. I am neither an employer nor employed at this time so how I dress is up to me. Your hair color should not be an issue. It sounds as if this rule is being made just to target you, is that correct? Or do multiple people where you work enjoy color accents in their hair?
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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19 Jun 11
There are, in the region of 5000 employees so I dont think the decision makers have singled me out tho there were very few people with such colours when I first went into the job.... maybe its the increase in 'participants' which has sparked the decision. At 56 (almost 57) I dont expect to be dictated to on such a minor detail. I have been told that I should stop dyeing it altogether and "go grey like a woman of your age should do" ... I rather hope that person was joking!!(red rag to a bull!!!!)
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
19 Jun 11
I have always been with a company that has strict rules about what and what not to wear on a business day. I have no issues really about that. I do not and have not thought of coloring my hair.
Hmmm but honestly since an office is well a business places think it is really appropriate that every one dresses accordingly and looks really presentable. Sometimes having striking colors in our hair would be unbusinesslike and some clients might even not understand or just might actually dismiss the fact that it is just how you want your hair styled.
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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19 Jun 11
Thank you for your input, I agr5ee in principle with your points. I have no problem at all with the dress code as it stands at the moment. I adhere to every aspect and wear my specified uniform whenever I am on duty (it is a sackable offence to wear it when shopping etc & we do not have changing rooms). I have colleagues with visible piercings and tattoos which are currently "not permitted"... maybe the management will take an equally slack attitude to the issue of hair colour? The job is not well paid and the work is hard and dirty so I dont feel inclined to totally change my appearance on the word of someone sitting in a comfortable office pen-pushing.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Jan 12
hi wizzywig if you came to work in most California offices you
would be dismissed as that is taken as symbolic of youth gangs. I can see their point .why go out of ones way to look like a freak among all the other people? at work one has to see ones coworkers all day and seeing garish crappy multicolor hair would not set well with most people.People are supposed to come to work to work, not show off their startling hair colors
@Wizzywig (7847)
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13 Jan 12
Thanks for that Hatley. It made me laugh I think I will start my very own youth gang for the over 55s. I dont consider hair colour to be any more "freakish" than piercings, excessive make-up or tattoos but, each to their own. Similarly, "garish" & "crappy" are subjective descriptions. I have never had any adverse comments in 4 years but I guess the job we do does not give us a lot of time to even consider each others physical appearance.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
21 Jun 11
What are you making on the line? Frankly, on most of them, jewelry would be a terrible thing to wear. However, really outlandish hair colors could cause another person to lose concentration for a fraction of time and that might cause an accident.
I never had to worry about a dress code because I always dressed professionally according to the position held.
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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21 Jun 11
"I never had to worry about a dress code because I always dressed professionally according to the position held."
Same here. I have never deviated from the strict dress code as it currently stands.
No-one that I work with is at all phazed by the colour of my hair as they're used to it and it isnt particularly outlandish (tho my profile picture is pretty much how it was when I was hired for the job)
@ANIME123 (2466)
• United States
19 Jun 11
Well I can understand where they are coming from because now a days we judge and we judge by looking at people and that includes their hair too. It just how we are, we are only humans so if I see somebody that has a different hair color like blue with green than of coarse I would not hire them to be in my business. It is sad to say, but it's pretty much how it goes. Well this is my opinion and what I think people well always judge based on looks and that's how we get ahead in life. By dressing nice and so on it's how we are. Well have a nice day. It may sound unfair what they are doing, but they are doing it for a reason other wise they wouldn't do it.
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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19 Jun 11
Obviously, I accept that we live in a prejudiced, judgemental society. People will still be allowed to go with the blonde and black look (you know, blonde but with a longer black layer underneath & any combination of brown/black/auburn/blonde.... I would sooner employ a person with rainbow hair wwhich was clean and tidy than someone with scruffy, dirty "normal" hair. Whilst people are judged on appearance rather than suitability for the job in terms of empathy, communication, punctuality etc I guess employers are never going to make full use of the available workforce.
Thank you for sharing your opinion
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
21 Jun 11
Big companies specially corporations really have a dress code. Specially those that deals with administrative matters, they do have dress codes and part of that is hair grooming. Though, if you color your hair brown, black or reddish brown, it's still allowed. But for bright colorful hairs, they don't allow it.
That's how it is if you work in an office. They have dress codes to follow.
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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21 Jun 11
I am aware of the need for dress codes & have adhered strictly to the current rules. I just dont feel that, in my current position, the discrimination against a few coloured streaks is justified. If its been acceptable for the last 3 years (when my hair was more vivid and those colours were less common in society in general) how am I deemed less suitable for the job now??
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@ClassyLady1 (109)
• United States
19 Jun 11
I think that if you are working somewhere dealing with the public, you should be appealing to the customers (the general public) and not just to a certain age group. The general public is turned off by body piercings, tattoos and hair colored with many different streaks of outrageous color.
I drove a truck cross country for many years; when I as in an area of the country where the waitresses in the truckstop restaurants had visible tattoos and body piercings when they came to wait on me, I was repulsed and would not order - I would just look at the menu, refill my ever-present water jug with the water generally brought out with the menus then leave, telling the cashier that I had changed my mind about eating.
Wizzywig, you didn't say what type of business you work in, but if you deal with the public, you should conform to the rules. Waiting to be dismissed is not a good option; Dismissal doesn't look good on one's past work record.
When I was trucking, I would not work for a company who required uniforms so I could always dress as I pleased - however, I dressed like a lady often in skirts with hose and heels. Strange for a truck driver, I know, but it made me feel like a lady rather than 'just one of the guys', as I WAS a lady in a "man's" world so to speak.
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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21 Jun 11
I do work with the public and I do conform to the rules... but they are changing those rules. My feeling is that the relaxing of the rules on neckchains would be more of a potential health & safety risk than the colour of someone's hair. The 'public' with whom I work just need caring people who maintain good hygiene, treat them with dignity and respect and have a high regard for safety.
The colour of my hair is ME - in the same way that your skirts, hose & heels were YOU.
Thank you for giving your opinion, which I respect