Pie shells......homemade
By RitterSport
@RitterSport (2451)
Lippstadt, Germany
June 23, 2011 10:29pm CST
Hi friends, I love to try out new dishes. When I come across Pie Recipes most ofteh they state to buy a pie shell or pie crust. They are not available here. Is it possible to make ones own pie shells, preferably with full grain flour cause this is the healthier way to eat?
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@mentalward (14690)
• United States
24 Jun 11
I've never used a ready-to-use pie crust. I've made my own pie crusts since I began making pies, when I was around 15 years old. My mother found a way to get me to make her a pie whenever she wanted one by telling me that I made the BEST pie crusts. Oh, how she bragged about my pie crusts! It wasn't until I was much older that I realized she praised my pie crusts because she knew I'd make a pie whenever she did that.
Still, it gave me lots of experience in making pie crusts. I've noticed that others here have posted recipes and methods for making a great crust so I won't repeat that. It's extremely easy to make them, just remember to only touch the crust with your hands as little as possible because doing that warms the dough and makes it tougher and less flakey.
I "cut" in the shortening/butter with two knives. That's the way I was taught and it works better for me than using forks or any other utensil.
Oh, you could try a cholesterol-free margarine instead of butter or shortening and make the crust as thin as possible to make the pie healthier.
I made a pie shell with cream cheese instead of butter/shortening once. It wasn't flakey but boy oh boy did it ever taste good! (I made a lemon tart kind of pie with this crust... yum!!!!!)
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
24 Jun 11
Happy pie baking! I hope you enjoy the experience. I remember my first pie (and pie crust); I was so proud of myself! lol Please let us know how you did and take photos if you can.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
oh mentalward bunches of thanks go to you for these wonderful hints. I bet my first pie will be just great using all the information I have by now.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
will update on that for sure, will take some time as right now I have stomach upsets from new meds but these will hopefully pass soon.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
24 Jun 11
Well, it looks like you got some good answers ritter..:) So pie shells are not available where you live? I find that amazing, because here in America, there are all kinds of varieties we can buy, but I don't, I make my own..In fact, I make more than I need and freeze the rest for future pies..I scanned the one who gave you a recipe, but forgot to see if they had given you this tip, Don't over mix it, in fact, mix it as little as possible, to only combine the ingredients. I say that because if you mix it too much, it won't roll out easily and will be hard and tough..Other than that, I think any recipe will do, of course if you want mine, I'll be happy to share, later tonight after I get my math lessons organized..:)
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
24 Jun 11
Personally you are fortunate you can't buy them..When my husband buys them, I cringe, because they taste really bad and I won't eat the crust of a pie that is store bought....
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
thanks carmelanirel, I also wish we could buy pie shells here but forget about it. That would make things so much easier. so its go and make them from scratch.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
didnt know they are that bad..... LOL.... maybe its really better I cant get them here.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
thanks funnysis I will try to find a recipe online......
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
26 Jun 11
thanks funnysis and have a wonderful day too
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
24 Jun 11
Yes, it seems that is the way you will need to go. The pastry needs to be shortcrust for sweet pies and I like a puff pastry for meat pies. Bake the shortcrust pastry case "blind" (empty) till cooked and cool it before filling. There's lots of butter in shortcrust pastry so there goes your healthy pie. A puff pastry pie usually only has pastry on top and can be cooked with the filling underneath.
I'm hungry now.
@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
25 Jun 11
thanks a lot for your welcome seems to be a nice site here.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
thanks a lot MsTickle, thought there are different pastries used depending on whether its a sweet or meaty pie.
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@free_man (7330)
• United States
24 Jun 11
Hi Ritter. I love making my own pies but never got the crust down just right but there are a lot of sites on the net to find out how. I found one that you might like http://www.crisco.com/Search.aspx?category=crisco_recipes&q=pie+crust . I hope this helps you my friend.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
hi free_man, oh no, thats terrible you are at odds with hubby cause of family members. thats ruining your weekend for sure hope things get better for you real soon. Hugs to you hope they help.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
hi free_man thanks a lot I will check that out. Have a wonderful weekend
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@classicalgeek (185)
• United States
3 Jul 11
You can definitely make your own pie crust, and use any kind of flour you like, including whole-grain flour. I even use gluten-free flours like amaranth for one of my friends who has gluten allergies.
Here goes: In a large bowl, put in your flour. Add ice-cold butter and cut through the butter with two knives. Repeat until you get crumbs about the size of wheat kernels (you may have to add either butter or flour to make sure it is mixed all the way through). For an even flakier crust, use equal proportions of lard and butter; for a less flaky crust, use equal proportions of butter and cream cheese.
When you have got the crumb stage, add just enough ice-cold water to make it all stick together. Roll out on a floured board (I use a marble board and a marble rolling pin to make sure the dough stays cold, but you can also use one of those glass rolling pins you fill with water and freeze). Handle just enough to get the right thickness and shape, and you will have your pie crust!
@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
5 Jul 11
hi dear classicalgeek thanks a lot for the time you put into your answer. Thats a lot of work but I am sure its well worth it. Good to know I can also use the full grain flour for it. have a wonderful day
@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
25 Jun 11
I just use all-purpose flour, not the whole grain. It's not too difficult to make pie crust, but it's important to get the right weight and thickness or it doesn't work.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
25 Jun 11
thought so thats why I decided to ask first before trying something new
@LadyDulce (830)
• United States
2 Jul 11
It's absolutely possible to make your own pie crusts. It's also much better for you and much tastier... I have yet to find a store bought crust as tender and flaky as my own. A touch of vinegar in the dough makes it so much more tender, while lard makes it flakier than oil or margarine or butter, and some crumbled oats or wheat germ makes a great chewier crust for heavier pies or savories. There's so much you can do with a simple crust to adjust it to the filling.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
3 Jul 11
hi Lady Dulce thanks for stepping by, I know that homemade is always better than store bought when it comes to cooking and baking. That idea with crumbled oats is great, I tired these oats lately which will melt in milk or juice in my muffins and was impressed with how good they were.
@shaggin (72115)
• United States
24 Jun 11
Hmm here you can buy frozen pie crusts. I used to just make them from scratch but its so much easier to just buy them so thats what I've done lately with the pies I've made. I buy them and then keep them in my freezer until I need them. If a recipe says to use a premade pie shell you do not have to do that you can certainly make one of your own there is nothing wrong with that. I havent heard of using whole grain flour in a pie crust recipe but I am sure you can substitute that. It doesnt seem like it would taste as well but you never know. Look up a recipe for it. Pie crust is pretty easy to make.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
hi shaggin and thanks for stepping by and responding. I am not into making pies and complicated baked goodies in general (yet) but havent done much more than easy sponge cakes so far. So its really an adventure for me
@Chevee (5905)
• United States
24 Jun 11
Hi RitterSport, cooking from scratch is a blessing and it is also a gift from God to those that have mastered that art. As for pie crust I have never been able to make one that is even close to perfect, I have to rely on those that you buy. And your statement about full grain flour being healthy is a great help for those that are tying to eat healthy. I have gotten into healthy eating now having being diagnosed with diabetes. Have a blessed day and continue cooking those good pies.
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@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
24 Jun 11
Sounds great to use whe grain flour. I've never tried it.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
hi Chevee I think I am quite good at cooking from scratch but baking is another story. Like I answered to Shaggin, I have only baked very simple cakes or cookies so far and wanted to expand my knowledge and abilities there a bit.
I am diabetic too thats why I mentioned the full grain flour. I have switched to using that in cooking and baking it only needs a tad more fluid, and works out that way all right.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
26 Jun 11
I bet you can. I don't have any recipes personally...I use the premade ones too...lol...but I have used a biscuit mix recipe. Act as though you are making homemade biscuits...spread out in the bottom of the pie plate and bake it. That might work. I hope it helps!
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
26 Jun 11
oh Jen, thats a super idea for sweet pies, never thought of this so far. Thats really easy to make. Just read and commented on your discussion about the charger you forgot. So have a safe trip, a good time and much fun there
@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
25 Jun 11
You very well can make your own homemade pie crust and it doesn't have to be hard. "The Joy of Cooking" cookbook has a very fast and easy recipe. It's almost like making play dough. Just mix the ingredients, roll into a ball, then pat into place directly in the pie pan.
It does use only plain white flour, but I'm sure you can add some whole wheat flour as well. In my baking I use a mix of both in some breads, pancakes, etc. The ratio should be more white to wheat, because wheat flour is more dense and thus diminishes the lightness of the dough.
You may be able to find some recipes using all wheat dough for pie crust, but I have found none. Have fun with your baking!
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
25 Jun 11
thanks a lot epicure as I collect cookbooks this one sounds good and I will certainly have a look. have a wonderful weekend
@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
24 Jun 11
I haven't made a pie crust in a few years. I'm not even sure I remember how. We do have Pillsbury pie crusts here. I've bought them before to make pies with. I bet you make good pies.
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
24 Jun 11
hi Pointless I never made pie myself just remembered eating sweet and some meaty pies in the UK years ago and how much I liked them so I wanted to make pies myself.