Do you feel intimidated when a Veteran reminds you?
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
Philippines
July 8, 2011 6:31am CST
Hello there.
Don't worry I've been to that situation myself, I know the feeling. most of you prefer to respond to topics or discussions that are made by either newbie or people lesser than 200 post. I see this all the time. I don't know if you're intimidated or avoiding Veteran's response or most specially avoid being reprimanded or reminded that some of their post are violation.
You know, they are people too. and who knows if you stick long enough you might become a veteran as well. Veteran meaning like what the other lotter said was expert on things with mylot. most special those familiar with the rules and guidelines.
I don't think you should be afraid of them. they're good people, they have done nothing wrong but to help you. besides, they're not customer service but more like mentors of some kind
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@hanuma34 (819)
• India
8 Jul 11
Hi, LK. I do not know what or who prompted you to bring out the topic. Of course, it is well worth discussing for the benefit of all members new entrants or seniors or veterans. But I am commenting on your statement that 'most of you prefer to respond to topics or discussions that are made by either newbie or people lesser than 200 posts'. I have come across some rejoined mylotters, who carry smaller number of posts too. We cannot distinguish the members by the number of posts. As a matter of fact I try to avoid new members, particularly those whose topics do not interest me.
Veterans are always needed who volunteer to guide the others whoever seeks clarifications. Under those circumstances where is the question of being intimidated.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello hanuma,
Because It happened to me when I was new, and also i tend to stay away from veterans topics because they were too aggressive and harsh during my newbie times. some people are just reincarnated but most are new. besides, back then there was a lot more debate than just friendly barging in or comments
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
8 Jul 11
I don't consider myself an expert even though I have been here for a couple of years now. I try to be a law abiding citizen of mylot but I can't avoid stepping on mylot landmines! Many a time my discussions are penalized for going against the guidelines which I thought I have been careful enough not to transgress the guidelines but I realized that admin have the final say whether to allow or disallow a topic to be good for public digestion. Being a veteran, I hope to be of help to newbies to familiarize themselves with this site to make them feel that there are more than just the making money part.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello zandi,
Well, None of us are experts but probably knows more than the new people coming in to this site. some people are intimidate out there that they're too scared or shy to approach us. but probably i have a problem with new ones in terms of adding them. but there are others who are helping, so i think it's alright if they do it themselves for now
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
8 Jul 11
When I was new here I did have a certain sense of fear when a Lotter with a big number came to my posts
I am also aware that now that I have a big number too, I might have the same effect on new users when I barge into their posts, taking my number wth me.
I try, most times, to tread gently fully aware that some think that some of us could be moderators too. I pointed out yesterday to a new user that admins wear a badge. Everyone who has no badge is equal, regardless of their number, but that some with a high number just like to help the newer users by giving them advice which, if they use it, could allow them see results sooner.
To the NEW USERS:
Please don't be scared of us because all we bring are tips to help you get there sooner than some of us were able to achieve it because then, when we were young Lotters, there were few who spent their time with us, unlike nowadays.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello Aunt D.
I used to think LAMB muscle bound was an admin that i literally pissed of by his barging and reminding of crap rules(back then). I guess some people still feels it but i only asked this because some of them don't post that much and aren't aware of the guidelines still. you're right aunt we are all equal here.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
8 Jul 11
Hi Rich!
I'm sure you have miscounted
as the number I have is at least two baker's dozens more
Why the sad face Letran?
@bostonphil (4459)
• United States
9 Jul 11
Well, I am a newbie. Not brand new but still new and trying to learn the ropes. I have made some mistakes along the way. For the most part, veteran mylotters have been a guide through the maze. I could not have learned as fast or as well without their help. And I welcome their input. But there have been a few instances where I felt the veteran mylotter was a little bit pushy with me or showy offy - just a bit overly impressed with themself like they were the last word on mylot. However, I do not see it as a mylot problem because that is how these person probably are in the physical world. It's their personality and we all take our personality with us everywhere we go, even to mylot. But for the most part, mylot veterans have been a blessing. I welcome your input and also your friendship. Happy mylotting.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Hello BostonPhil,
Well, they could be the last word because you will be a veteran one day when they are not around any more. besides, no veteran can last forever, the ones you see now may not exist anymore of moving on with their lives with out considering going back to mylot.I have seen mylotters who have kept deleting their accounts for reasons they don't mention
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@bostonphil (4459)
• United States
13 Jul 11
Well, I am new to mylot and I am 66 years old. Given my age, I probably will not be around a great many years but I am sure enjoying mylot while I am here. I plan to stay for a while.
Most veterans have been wonderful and helpful. But I have noticed that some others are snooty and caustic in some of their responses to other mylotters. I find it unnecessary to be like that. But as I have said, I believe that those persons are like that in their every day lives, outside of mylot.
Interesting that you are noticing some mylotters are deleting their account. Are there a lot? Are they newbies or veterans? How have you noticed? I have read postings where some mylotters are saying goodby or saying that they are back. Interesting that they are deleting their account because you do not need to. You can just stop posting. It sounds like those mylotters are angry. Is that what caused you to begin this discussion?
@sjvg1976 (41290)
• Delhi, India
8 Jul 11
Hello LK,
I am new to the site don't go to rating as i joined this just 1.5 months back but i did not feel any sort of fear to discuss (from the first day)something with the vetarans as they know better than me and their guidance or wordings is always welcome.
I have done it in the past i never had that sort of fear in discussing things provided either of us don't use rough language.
There had been no incident when some vetaran used harsh words to me while discussing rather they have always guided me to the right direction in one or another way.
I always had some learnt with vetarans like Mysd,Hatley,HWG and others.Had they not been there i would have left MYLOT in the early stage.
Therefore i suggest all newbies don't fear of the vetarans ask freely the questions you have in your mind as they will guide you better as they really know better about MYLOT.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello sjvg,
Well, unfortunately, expect that some veterans (by number of post) can obviously be harsh too, as i have experience it already. but you're really good for only staying here one month and a half. I've been with those people for a long time now and these days are more peaceful compare to what happened in the past.
@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
8 Jul 11
I haven't noticed anyone being afraid of going on the veteran posts. I do newbies and oldies myself. I guess I just don't pay that much attention to people. I don't go on their profiles, so I guess I wouldn't know. The only time I go to their profiles is to see if I want them as my friend. If I think I will get spammed I won't accept, or if I see where they have been unkind to people I won't accept either.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello Pq, Well, that's good to know. same here but i have noticed some for years most specially when i respond to a comment to people less than one hundred post. spams no longer exist i believed. I don't having conversations with them but am not fond of adding them until they have become completely active here
@hanuma34 (819)
• India
8 Jul 11
Hello LK. I do not think I am spamming, and I think I am reasonably active, though not so much on mylot. I am responding or commenting in topics of my interest. I have sent a friend request to you which you have not approved, may be because of my age which you must have seen in my profile.. Nothing like that. You may or may not approve. That is your choice.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
8 Jul 11
I don't know if one has ever reminded me of rules, probably because I contact ones in a PM before starting something I wonder about... But when I think about it, I am sensitive enough, Hence why I don't go into controversial posts too often, and would rather be reminded in a PM than in public..Then again, being reminded in public also helps others remember too..So I rather they didn't, but know it is best if they did..
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
8 Jul 11
I know, that was my point about being reminded in public so others can learn too...
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello carmel,
Well, I have learned from those reminders coming from the veterans and some people who are no longer here. sad that they're not much around anymore except one that I've known for a while. but if a person remind you in private, how would others know so that they won't repeat the mistakes again
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@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
9 Jul 11
Actually i do like responding to Veterans posts because i get to know them and often times their posts are interesting and witty and i get to learn something.. and i really do not mind them telling me a thing or two.
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
14 Jul 11
It is ok Letran, we all get busy and this time it is you who is busy.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Hello jazel,
I am really sorry though that i haven't been responding to your discussions. probably some other time i don't know but i have said this yesterday and am still doing it promising it still today. it's nice that you are still open to suggest of other lotters. besides, I agree with mike that consider yourself also a veteran. have a nice day.
@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
•
8 Jul 11
I've given up pointing out violations for two reasons: firstly, it affects reputation, rating and all that other stuff detrimentally (since you posted on a thread that is later deleted) and secondly, some people get all arsey about it, accuse me of trolling and flaming and go off on a major rant because they were wrong.
It's not worth the effort to try to be helpful and informative. Now, I just let the guideline violators find out for themselves when their post is deleted.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
8 Jul 11
Deletions do not affect ratings.
Any ratings given to posts before deletion are then nullified when the deletion takes place.
This was stated by admin here in response 12:
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2546351.aspx?p=2
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@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
•
8 Jul 11
In which case the FAQ is wrong. The second question on the page below says otherwise:
http://www.mylot.com/o/faq/faq11.aspx
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello Spikey,
Some new ones are intimidated, but some how we can see if they neg rate us if they are beyond on hundred post. well, some people are just hard headed, like me once to be honest it literally took me an account deletion before i have realized my mistake. i hope others don't share the same fate as I did
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello sweetie,
Hahaha not really but some of them can really be nothing than a grumpy old yolks. though the grumpy ones are not in my friends list, I usually choose the good ones. nice try sharma, tango is a good thing. but taking out flesh isn't bad but tasting too
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
8 Jul 11
Hi Letran
Yes when I first started here I had to enter any members discussions and or responses who had high numbers. Instead I decided to carefully read what they responded with and it helped me gain the knowledge I do have to date.
I am still careful not to step on toes, Simply because I do not want to place the wrongful information especially to a new member who may then take it as a rule and not succeed here.
But I interact with everyone and anyone here no matter what they participation reputation is. Yes definitely the veterans are like mentors because if anyone reads and re-reads what is responded and or commented with, it is like a walking instant access to the guidelines which is really what they are trying to do, save new members a load of steps so that they can enjoy their time here.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello hardworkinggurl,
Yeah, same here but the difference is that I kept making senseless discussions. but with you helping others has earned you being a veteran i believe. don't worry i believe they know that you've been a lot more helpful in all these years. i am sure you will be an asset to new people who needs helped. i admire your continue responding to others
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
9 Jul 11
I don't mind at all if veterans remind me. I take them as constructive criticism.
I learned a lot from some veterans' advises specially when i was a newbie here. They helped me solve some problems , like why i wasn't given my first payout, how's this and that here at Mylot.
To all who have advised me, thank you so much guys! More power to you all!
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
hello Simplyd,
Well, I have the same reminder in the past but now am used to it though, it's just that I don't like being adviced before but because I don't advice on every one recently. same here that it has helped me solve a lot of problems too. even today in my recent discussions that i have been helped and advised or warned. have a nice day.
@bouncybug (614)
• South Africa
8 Jul 11
I think that its great when veterans remind us newbies about the rules etc, because they know better than we do and its the best way to learn!! Hopefully I will be able to stay here at mylot long enough to become a veteran myself because I really enjoy it here!!
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Nyahahaha - time flies by hanuma. well, i have no clue who started this veteran/ newbie crap
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello bouncybug,
They ain't gonna stay for long, they're not immortals you know, nor robots. one way or the other their going to hit the sack and some of us will replace them and continue what they started. I am so glad you're enjoying here, not every one does enjoy this place. some doesn't last. remember that people here cares
@hanuma34 (819)
• India
8 Jul 11
Hi, LK. You are talking as if you are not a veteran. Look at the numbers you are carrying. This is your second round if I remember right. It is true until one hits the sack he/she is going to remain in my lot. So why invite trouble when trouble does not trouble us. By the way when does one become a veteran?
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@thetis74 (1525)
•
9 Jul 11
As for me, I don't feel intimidated if a veteran reminds me of something. It may also depend on what he is reminding me of. We are not perfect. Sometimes we make mistakes that we are not aware how hard it would affect other people until someone reminds you that it does. So, I don't mind. There are people who cares. And like our parents, we are constantly reminded because they knew better about life. I would be glad to be reminded if I unwittingly make any violations or the like. At least someone is helping me do the right thing. Thank you.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Hello thetis,
That's a good thing that veterans' aren't much intimidating when it comes to them because they are only trying their best to help you. don't worry, things will go well just listen to them right when they give you advice. well, not exactly better about life, but some thing they have learned here and just wanted to share it with you. have a nice day.
@derek_a (10873)
•
9 Jul 11
I have been here quite some time now, but I can't say that I ever felt intimidated at being a newbie. I have found that there are some great conversations to be had with newbies on the site, and old veterans alike.
I wouldn't say that having many discussion/posts makes a person more skilled than anybody else. I guess we can all make a mistake with the guidlines now and again, but as long as we do our best to answer discusssions or post them in the best way we can, we will be OK. I find it is generally a friendly site and a great forum to have.. _Derek
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Hello derek,
Well, I don't know who started it really but i do remember calling other few veterans and some call newbies. i believe it's the wisdom, knowledge and experience that they share that counts and not always the ranking of the mylotters. sometimes what good is a ranking if the mylotter doesn't show being a role model. have a nice day.
@dismalgrin (2604)
• United States
9 Jul 11
No, most of the so called 'Veterans' of mylot actually are newbies to me. I've been here for over 2 years now and I have taken several sabbaticals on posting so that my post count isn't up very high. So, when these 'Veterans' try to tell me that I'm wrong or whatever, I take it all with a grain of salt.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Hello dismalgrin,
Well, I think you were here in the past, like you I was also a newbie and it takes time to learn things in this community. unfortunately, some people just like to tell things and reprimand others. but let them know also that you are also a veteran and but with an open mind to advice of others. have a nice day.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
I should be the one who's freak out!
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@megamatt (14291)
• United States
9 Jul 11
Well to be honest with you, I have no idea what kind of person is really going to look too closely at the topic starter and really how many posts they do in fact have with it. I mean its just a post count. Its nothing to be too afraid of. Then again the minds of people really do work in strange ways and there are just a lot of times where people tend to really just feel like they are going to be in a certain safe zone.
For me, I really don't pay all that much attention to the post counts. Then again, I'm getting to the point where I'm slowly reaching veteran status but not quite there. So I really wonder how many people I frightened away with my giant post count. That is really something that just gives me food for thought. Don't worry, I won't bite...much. I might notice that a person has a lot of posts or someone new is doing good for putting across such an interesting topic, but other than that, nothing.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Hello megamatt,
I don't even know what being veteran means either. All i know is that we have to make quality post and not the usual Q and A or Poll type post in this site. because there has been a lot of questions like that in the past which had pissed me off as well. am glad things are quite better now than before.
@aghiuta (525)
• Canada
9 Jul 11
I don't see why anybody would be intimidated.I only participate in discussions I am interested in the subject,and If I start a discussion,I try to respect the guidelines(I am a little unsure about those still).And if somebody sets me straight in a courteous manner I'll accept it and thank them!But I guess not every body thinks this way.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Hello Aghiuta,
WEll, in my experience, when a person is intimidated it's either they don't like being lectured on or they simply don't like being reprimanded at. I have experience this too but recently, i've decided to read the guidelines on my own so that things will go well and make no problem to anyone anymore. have anice day.
@waflay (2737)
• Nairobi, Kenya
8 Jul 11
I have never been found in the other side of mylot rules.., but I have lost my cents from discussions that were deleted by mylot. If it comes to mylot veterans, I find them so enriched with online knowledge that if rated in monetary value- can count to be in millions of dollars.
...imitate knowledge and gain understanding...
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
Hello waflay,
You should read the GUIDELINES, because people here doesn't like violators. even my post are deleted, most specially by the admin when you're not looking. well, knowledge is better than money and it's also power but something you need to taken account and remind the right peoplehave a nice day.
http://www.mylot.com/o/guidelines.aspx
@hanuma34 (819)
• India
8 Jul 11
waflay, you are quite new to mylot. I too am new but senior to you. Your complaint is no a valid one. I too lost some cents when the discussion was deleted. If we are cautious we can avoid recurrence of such punishments. Your sarcasm about the mylot veterans may itself be off the rule book, and I too may miss my earning. You can just stick to discussions that interest you and where you think a chain can develop. You too can earn!
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