" To whom much is given, much is expected"

@louievill (28851)
Philippines
July 8, 2011 10:27am CST
Actually this is a biblical quote but I have been thinking how it actually relates to our lives, often people would relate to it as money, if you have much then you are expected to share, but it could also be about your talents and things you are good at, and people tend to expect a good output from you. It could also be true for corporations or companies like microsoft and Bill gates is suppose to donate to the betterment o mankind, how about rich countries? Do other countries expect much from them? What's your take and what's your opinion on this quote?
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9 responses
• United States
8 Jul 11
Hi Louievill, Had me thinking in several directions actually, and I do like this as primarily I see it as To Whom much has, much should be given. Where as the poor does not expect much they certainly much appreciate. lol It certainly would be such a better economical world if at least a little as the idiom "much" suggests, would be shared. Sharing does come in forms of not only money but food, jobs, assistance to the needy.
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• United States
8 Jul 11
I will let you take the lead.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
, if you already have much and you still receive and maybe demand for more LOL, whereas those who never knew comfort would appreciate little things afforded to them, you have a good point HWG but maybe we should reserve that for another discussion
@Rick1950 (1575)
• Lima, Peru
9 Jul 11
I think this quote is more about the spiritual side of human being than the money. It refers to the virtues or qualities that one can have and should develop more in favor of the neighbor.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
9 Jul 11
I honestly feel that it concerns both, true " man does not live on bread alone" but life would surely be better with a lot of bread, man is both physical and spiritual, so as long as we are here in this Earthly existence, responding and Mylotting, guess it would refer to both (just my personal opinion), hope you have a nice day
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
10 Jul 11
hello, it's in Luke 12:48
@Rick1950 (1575)
• Lima, Peru
9 Jul 11
Hi Louievill! Thanks for your response. Yes, it`s true: people need bread to avoid starvation. I think there are people starving in the world despite the efforts made. It may take a long time to be able to decrease hunger in the world. Would you tell me, where is that quote in the bible? I've found ones in the Gospel of Luke (Lk 19,24), but I'm not sure it's that or not. Nice day for you too!
• United States
8 Jul 11
I've always thought this quote inspired the famous Spiderman philosophy, "With great power comes great responsibility." And it's funny to me that you say often people relate it to money, because I've taken it to mean everything you're ever given. If you're given talent, then you should use it to help, love, and inspire people. If you're given children, then you should raise them to hold a high moral standard and love them unconditionally. And if you're given money and power then you should use both to help people. And I think everyone, regardless of how much or how little they've been given, should consider what they have a blessing that they need to use right. It's easy to look down on huge corporations, rich people, and rich countries and say, "They've been given so much and are so greedy with it!" as if we're the moral police. But we shouldn't hold others to a standard that we don't uphold ourselves.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
oh, I just said that it's related to money most of the time since majority of people always have money in their mind, am I right? But like what I said the discussion is open to all other things besides money, like talents etc..., yeah I agree with you that being blessed comes the great responsibility of sharing, and recepients should always consider anything a blessing no matter how small. Sorry but I do not think there is any generalization or any point in my discussion that would suggest that rich people or nations are so greedy with it, is that your own personal perception? Oh being a moral police, who gave the badge? Morality is in people's hearts and so I was taught, have a nice day
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• United States
8 Jul 11
Well I don't have money in mind when I think of the quote... and I just think that's funny. I guess most people think of money first, but I don't. You hadn't brought it up, but it does happen that people want to look down their noses at people who have been given much and don't seem to give much back. I think that regardless of how much or how little you have, then you should be giving back. It's not just the "rich people" who have much expected of them. Someone earlier in this discussion said that the "Widow's Mite" is praised, and I agree wholeheartedly. It just seems to me that people want to complain about rich people and rich corporations being greedy, when they're not looking to their own hearts and their own actions. They want to judge people with a standard that they don't uphold themselves. Hence, being the hypocritical "moral police". I wasn't saying that I thought they were greedy, but that I had observed people who want to call them greedy for not giving to the poor even when they don't give to the poor (or anything else for that matter) themselves.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
oh i see, I got your point.
@veganbliss (3895)
• Adelaide, Australia
9 Jul 11
Yes, there have been many variations of this quote over the years. One that comes to mind is an older English quote which used to be used here, mostly by the wealthier classes - "with privilege comes responsibility". This is even more profound for us, as it implies that what you have is not even yours - you haven't earned it, but you have been given stewardship over it. It also implies that you "must" use this responsibly & that this is automatic, not an option, as the original quote seems to imply - to me anyway. This is a very good one & it's applications are wide as well as diverse. It applies to how we treat ourselves, our planet, people & animals around us, etc, etc & not just material possessions or money. We really have been given stewardship over so much! This is a biblical quote & there are also many others that relate to giving. I should know them as I've had whole courses in them. You have mentioned another one which Jesus exemplified in giving with the right hand without the left hand knowing. There are many others too, even going back to tithing in Old Testament times, but I don't want to turn this into a religious discourse! You mentioned about the so-called rich countries, like the USA & how other poorer nations expect to be given handouts in a continuous stream from those who they perceive are better off. The USA might appear wealthy, at least in an historical sense, but fewer & fewer Americans have jobs now! American citizens are fast becoming less & less able to support themselves & their country. I don't think this is a result of giving & probably has little to do with this at all. I'm not very good at understanding American politics, so I won't pretend to have the solution. Sometimes, other principles should also come into play, particularly in situations such as these. I can't recall the original saying, which sounds strange in our modern language, but the principle runs along the lines of "give a man a fish & you give him enough for one meal(?!?), but teach him how to fish & you give him a way to make enough for every meal & an income besides for the rest of his life". This, perhaps is what we should focus on more - giving people what they really need instead of just what they want. I know the US does this & does it well, but it needs to be a concerted effort from everyone in every country who is able, regardless of how willing they are! Just "my take".
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
9 Jul 11
"it implies that what you have is not even yours" yes I agree, nothing is really ours, even this short life and the enjoyment we get interacting and even Mylotting is just but borrowed time, and everything we have has good stewardship attached to it and everything includes as you said planet , people animals etc... No we are both not turning this into a religious discourse! Even after I graduated, I studied Pastorship courses at night Christian school, not to become a pastor but simply to further learn, you would not believe me if I told you I have read the whole Bible especially the new testament and scanned books from the old that I can hardly relate like the book of numbers, etc.... No we cannot generalize that all poor nations expect a continuous generous stream, rather it should be tackled individually, spend billions on one or two that we are not even so sure if they can stand on their own two feet or even be loyal after we leave and not even being sure on the out come, or spend it on one that has embraced principles of democracy for a long time and is being threatened by an emerging power much more powerful? Again I have no intentions of politicizing my own discussion.LOL. Nation's down fall are not a result of it's helping , giving or aiding, I think they would be far worse more if they did not share. It's about proper asset management and setting priorities, it's about political leadership and peoples will, and I would like to say this without referring to anybody in particular. Like what you said concerted effort is what makes or breaks and that is where my country had failed miserably this past decades.
@bouncybug (614)
• South Africa
8 Jul 11
I also really like this quote. I guess it is similar as well to the quote 'with great power, comes great responsibility.' What it means I guess is that people who are in a position to help others and to make a difference in the world have a responsibility to do that - they got to where they are with the help of others, so its only right that they give back what they can and hopefully help others to make a success of themselves as well!
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
yes people who are in a position should help others but it should also be voluntary for them, given freely with honest intentions and with no strings attached.
9 Jul 11
MUCH is given to those who are in need. Simply as this. Give it to poor people for they are the members of the society that really in need of help, a really BIG HELP. MUCH is expected when you have shared your blessings to others and that MUCH is a word you'll receive from people you have offered your service and you have shared your talents. This is a word "THANK YOU", a simple word that will let you feel fulfilled and happy. MUCH is expected from GOD. He would give you the savings(good works) that you have deposited(works done while on earth) while you are still on earth and that is YOU CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM. WHEN YOU HAVE GIVEN MUCH ON WHAT YOU HAVE. THEN EXPECT THAT YOU WILL HAVE MUCH IN RETURN.......
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
9 Jul 11
Yep, although I'm not sure, I think this is leaning more towards the "Spiritual" cause it's about the Kingdom in heaven and good deeds, thank you very much ernakienchaie, your point is well considered
10 Jul 11
Thank you. It really deals on our spiritual aspect. If you have this, it's a guarantee that God would pay you for all the good things that you have done.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Jul 11
hi louievill wow you just answred your own discussion in a way. I agree it can be money if you were fortunate enough to make a lot you should share with others. If its talent perhaps you could share your talent by giving lessons to others or showing others how to follow in your footsteps. I think my own country the USA has indeed helped less fortunate countries all the time but right now she should be trying to save hundreds here who are out of work and need jobs before they lose all that they have worked so hard for. charity now should be started at home. we are in danger of losing any no one spot in the world if we cannot help our own people here and now. I had hoped Obama would live up to his promises but he seems to be having a hard time doing it, and our whole country is all up set,democrats screaming at republicans and Republicans screaming back and to me its so stupid. look we are all Americans should not we be getting along so we can help our country? so maybe we are falling down on this to whom much is given , much is expected as we as Americans should forget the quarreling and start working together to put o rselves back to work.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
hi Maam, oh yes you just opened a new perspective to the discussion, now what if to those much was given suddenly find themselves in some kind of trouble and still much is expected from her? Is it maintaining what was started from the past Glory so as not to compromise world image? or pulling back and be kinda realistic to save herself?, Guess this is about the part about countries and not individuals, anyway the discussion is open to individuals, corporations and yes countries. Don't worry, America will recover, we stand by you being traditional allies
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
8 Jul 11
Most of the so-called rich in the US give plenty of money, as do most of the corporations. Even small companies give. I've worked at many companies that are harassed by charities begging for donations. You cannot possible give to them all. Anyway, yes, most of the haves already do give. They just don't brag about it. I know one Christian best selling author (and pastor), for instance who, once he and his wife realized what a hit his first book was completely changed their giving method. They started out their married life giving the 10% tithe. As their blessings increased, they gave more. By the time the book came out and was so successful, they started living on 10% of their income and giving away 90%. He also gave back every penny he had received from the church as salary for being the pastor. But this is not something that everyone knows, and this is a man who is regularly bashed. Another well known Christian does the same thing - gives 90% of his income and lives on 10%. And, again, this is also someone the media regularly bashes. I think that each one of us - no matter how much or how little we have - have to be givers ourselves. The Bible does praise the "widow's mite" after all.
@anklesmash (1412)
8 Jul 11
I like this quote as it talks about the responsibillity of the rich and the powerful.This is a major part of my political beliefs which is one nation conservatism as created by Benjamin Disraeli.I believe those with wealth should have an oblugation to those less fortunatesuch as conntributing to things like health through taxation and they should pay there employees decent wages as they are the basis of their wealth.I am not however into total wealth redistribution as do the far left,this is because i think it is counter intuative as it will reduce income as it will reduce peoples entrepenurial spirit and the economy will stagnate like it did under communism.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
hello. I'm not into total wealth redistribution either cause for me it violates natural law such as what the extreme left preaches, I think generosity and sharing what you have should spring more from a pure and responsible heart and should never be obligatory, and the world I think is not blind to what your country has contributed despite everybody else's colonial past, yes everybody in the free society that our countries enjoy should always be entrepreneurs but they should never forget to share a little something with what they can spare.