Do You Forget when you Forgive?
By Bannybanzie
@Bannybanzie (1397)
Philippines
July 10, 2011 11:13pm CST
I heard it in the lyrics of the song of our neighbors. It says "to forgive is to forget".
I must say that this should be true. When we have a fight with someone, if we forgive them, we should forget what happened and move on. But I see a lot of people saying they have forgiven but they will never forget what person did to them.
Honestly, in my case, I usually forgive someone because I have forgotten what he/she has done. Give me a few hours and I can't even tell the story anymore as I have forgotten it. Of course, it is not complete forgetting. But my anger is gone.
I think it is necessary that once we say we forgive someone genuinely, we must forget what happened. Because keeping it in our mind will only bring the pain back and make us mad. Also, when another argument arises, we may bring that issue back and make deeper wounds in that person's heart and our own heart.
How about you guys? What's your view with this matter.
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20 responses
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
hello BB,
One of negative traits I have is I can forgive but not easily to forget because every time I see that person it's all coming back yes even I forgive them still the pain is there it will takes time before I can forget what they did.
happy mylotting
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
We must learn from our mistakes
We should be careful who we should trust to
Angry heart can bring disease and it's not good
Let the time heals all the pain and start all over again
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@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
let them be who they are now
you still believe on karma
you will never know what will happen next
it's their time tomorrow it will be yours
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
Hi guys!
Yes, it's really hard to forgive and forget specially if the wrongdoing that has been done to us had crushed us from the inside. But what can we do? There are really a lot of bad people out there now who are just for themselves. They care if they hurt anybody.
Let us just all be careful and not trust easily. Also, some day, they will receive the credit of what they did.
What you sow is what you'll reap. If they sow something bad, they will reap the bad results of it, not now maybe, but for sure in the right time.
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@celticeagle (166976)
• Boise, Idaho
11 Jul 11
I think it very releasing to forgive. But sometimes it isn't fully come to its conclusion and I am there for not able to forgive. Then it is rough going. To forgive is human. Nice to forget after the whole thing. If the same thing happens again and again are we still supposed to forget and forgive?
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@celticeagle (166976)
• Boise, Idaho
11 Jul 11
Giving another chance is a good thing to do. But when it happens over and over it does tend to get old.
@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
Yes, when we forgive, it's like taking a huge burden off our chests. But if we don't forgive one completely that burden will stay. And if that person keeps on doing the same thing over and over again, I think we should try to see where that is coming from. Why is that person doing that? Is it really his intention to do that? Or just plain human error? The answers to those questions will determine whether or not we should give them another chance.
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
hello Banny,
I only have one say on this...
my mentor teach me that in order for me to be forgiven when asking forgiveness when praying to GOD is...forgive and forget.
"How can we asks forgiveness from GOD when we can't even forgive,and how will we ever asks forgiveness from GOD when we keep thinking those people who have sinned against us?"
So,always forget when we forgive...
have a good day
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
well,that's YOU..and this is ME.
I don't have any habit of forcing anyone to agree with me,nor I to agree with them.
We all differ from each other,in many aspects and principle in life.
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
Hi!
Yes, we are all different. Whether we forgive and forget or not really depends on three things: our attitude, our view of life, and how bad the injury inflicted was.
Things will happen in the right time. If not now, maybe some day. But it would be better if we maintain peace of mind by trying not to recall the bad memories anymore as it will affect not them - but us.
Thank you for your responses!
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@allknowing (136430)
• India
11 Jul 11
Forgiving and forgetting incidents is quite easy for me but not attitudes. It is the attitude that will raise its ugly head and repeat the hurt inflicted.
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@allknowing (136430)
• India
11 Jul 11
Writers believe in powerful lines!but myLot expects more lines to be recognised!
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
Hello,
Thanks for your short but meaningful response. See 'ya around!
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@Cactus2010 (167)
• India
12 Jul 11
To forgive is to forget to have any feeling of wanting to take revenge. But if such experience has taught you a lesson, then one must not forget those lessons I suppose.
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Hi!
Very well said! You're absolutely right. It is in the sense of not thinking of how we can hurt the person back, but still taking the lessons we've learned as we go on with our life.
@QeeGood (1213)
• Sweden
11 Jul 11
I can forgive wrong doing towards people who have caused me pain, but I will not forget it. I keep the experience as useful knowledge in case I'll get into a similar situation or interact with someone alike. I hopefully get smoothly get out of the situation before it gets too painful.
@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
12 Jul 11
Hi!
Yes, everything that happened to us should serve as a lesson next time. In that way, we would avoid having to deal with the same pain again.
Thanks and have a good day!
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
27 Jul 11
Personally in the Bible it states we need to forgive one another no matter what they have done to us, and forget about it. This does not always mean we have to want to be friends with them, and hang around them, but when we learn to forgive it helps make things more manageable as well. And in turn we are a lot happier and can get more things accomplished from there.
@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
29 Jul 11
Hi!
Thank you for your response. Yes, forgiving is good for our health because we have less stress and worries and we are enjoying life more than those who cannot forgive.
Thanks and happy day!
@redmaryjane (891)
• United States
12 Jul 11
I always thought that "forgive and forget" is something that every decent human should do. I used to think that people who can forgive and not forget are not getting it, or are oblivious to their own selfishness just because they've been hurt. However, I had to go through a lot to learn how to forgive and make sense of it all.
I think we'll all be the better if we forgive and accept. As for what I went through, I don't think I'm capable or ready to forgive. What was accosted me was painful and unfair. I thought better to sever ties with them as it seems that my friendship didn't really matter nor does my expressing my opinion in hopes that they change or improve. So instead, I accepted the situation. I can't do anything about the things I am passionate about that they are now fully in charge of.
I can't say that I haven't forgiven them. I can't say that I have either. I just severed myself from their company. It seemed that my absence nor my presence didn't matter to them.
Do I want things to be the way they were? Yes. Do I think that the friendship was wasted? Yes, to a certain extent. Did I think that time spent with them was genuine? Yes and only at that specific time. Was I really wronged? Yes. Will I try to make an effort to reach out to them? No. It's not worth it.
Forgiveness deals with a great amount of acceptance than forgetting. If we forget, how can we learn from our experience? How can we deal with mistakes? Forgetting doesn't mean having to start over either. It means having to deal with what has happened and making the most out of a situation that is broken and surviving the aftermath.
@redmaryjane (891)
• United States
12 Jul 11
I like what you said in the last part :) Yes, this is a work situation. We all met at work then became friends not too long after. Then things got sour. I'm not the only one feeling same way I do about the state of the company.
However, I have been in situations where I forgave someone for firing me for no reason (another company...I was involved with 2 upstarts at the same time). Also, I've also forgiven someone who refuses to talk to me when all that was needed to mend the friendship was an honest and clarifying conversation. I may not be able to talk to that person out of her own choice but I know that I'll be okay if I run into her. With regard to the situation I mentioned in my first response, it's tough. They could not be convinced that they were wrong. So moving on was much needed in that situation. They were more of a burden when I was with them so I released them.
@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
12 Jul 11
Hi!
Based on what you said, it seemed like it has something to do with your work..? or company? Actually, I am in the same situation. The people in the company where I work do not seem to value me.
Now, on forgetting, honestly, it's not in the literal sense. Forgetting here is if we had some fight with somebody, we would try to restore the friendship as it was before this bad thing happened. Of course, in every thing that happens to our life, good or bad, we should earn the lesson and keep it in our life and use it.
However, if the people who has sinned against us do not really ask for forgiveness at all, I think we should forgive them, let the burden out of our heart, but close the communication. Some people are worth forgiving and forgetting, some are not. NOw it's all up to us what to do with the situation and how to deal with it.
Happy day!
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
11 Jul 11
It does take time for me to forgive, but I can forgive. What I can't do is forget. I will not hold it over the person's head and can be amicable, the thing is that if I totally forget then I am setting myself for a next time. Forgetting to a sense makes me feel like I would be vulnerable to others who potentially will do the same as well.
Again, I will not hold it over the persons head and or have it as a constant reminder, as I am a good person and do understand that some can make mistakes. Not forgetting does not mean I dwell and or linger on it, simply my own way of guarding me in the future. I can't help but wonder why the acts were committed in the first place therefore, it does take time but I can be forgiving.
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
HI guys!
I completely understand the points you said. We forgive them, but not forget so that we can earn the lesson and do things better the next time around. It will serve as a teacher to us.
Flagaz, about what Kennedy said, I think it makes sense. I also think it is not just their literal names but also what exactly they did so when we face the same thing next time, we can do better.
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@dmar24 (60)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
Forget or Forgive is really a big issue. Forgiving a person means that things that he or she has done to you will be erased and being forgotten. It's really hard yet I believed that its a good thing since its all about life. Sometimes were hurt and sometimes we heal. Not all people can forgive and forget what happens because for them it turns out a deep scar and if remembered can trigger the past memories that should be forgotten. In the end it'll just brought some unhappiness to a person. So forgiveness really matters because it just show that your stronger enough to face all the bad memories and trials in life and able to forget those is a pathway to a happy and compassion life. =)
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
Hi!
You're right. Some people cannot forget and forgive because either the injury was too bad,or because of pride. Some people say that just as a piece of glass broken can never be returned to how it looked before, that's how they deal with inflicted injuries.
Happy mylotting!
@sjvg1976 (41281)
• Delhi, India
11 Jul 11
Hello Banny,
It depends on the person & the mistake for which you forgive someone.Suppose the person is closed one then it is always better to forgive & forget which is usually tough task but i do it and if the person is not so close then i forgive but not forget and become cautious for future.
Same way if the mistake is big one and done by a closed one then i will forgive him/her but will take time to forget it.If the mistake is big but by done by not some one close then i will think to forgive forgetting is to be thought after forgiving him/her.
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
Hi!
Yeah, who made it and how big is it are factors that may affect how we would deal with it and if we can forgive or not and forget what happened.
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@angie20 (191)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
I don't think that when you forgive someone, you forget what he/she did to you. You start to forgive when you had finally embrace the pain that someone had caused. It's ridiculous to say that you have forgotten the whole thing. It is still there but the good thing is it's not painful to be remembered anymore. It's just like moving on, you do not forget of that someone but you just let go of the feeling of loving someone.
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
12 Jul 11
Hi!
Based on your answer, I think you mostly took it in the love area. Anyways, yes, an experience we had may not be forgotten specially if it is painful. But in some cases like small injuries we may have had from others, sometimes we tend to forget what happened.
Happy mylotting!
@katzar0712 (324)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
To forgive is to forget really means free yourself from the idea that the same cause of offense can happen again. It means letting go of the "negative feelings" cause by the offense...
And I just like to add that there are other people who doesn't forgive easily.
And I say this is OK, feel the anger first, dwell on it, don't rush in forgiving until you are completely ready to do so. So whenever you say, "I forgive you" forgetting will follow smoothly :)
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
Hi there!
Yes, it's about letting the negatives out. It can give peace of mind and less stress. And of course, forgiving and forgetting is a process which does not take place in an instant. We all need time for this to happen.
See ya around!
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@ernakienchaie (33)
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11 Jul 11
If a person asks forgiveness simply means that he had something very painful to you. When we experience pain, it's traumatic. Some trauma has high impact and some may not. You can forgive the person but you cannot forget what he had done especially those things that very traumatic and painful to you.
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@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
11 Jul 11
Hi!
Forgiving and forgetting sometimes really depend on how bad we were hurt. Some may hurt us just a little, but some may hurt to the point we feel our heart crushed. It's always different for every person.
Thanks and enjoy!
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@faith210 (11224)
• Philippines
12 Jul 11
hi Bannybanzie,
i am a very forgiving person but in all honesty, when i forgive i don't forget what led to the hurting or whatever unfortunate incident. please let me explain further. you see, when i forgive, i can start all over again with that person who has hurt me or whom i have a disagreement with. i will be able to be friends with them but there is this thing that is in the back of my head that reminds me of the lessons learned with the past experience which makes me extra careful of not committing the same mistake again. i will forgive the person and will give as many chances with the same person over and over again but i can never forget the sin or the hurt that has been committed because that is the only way i know how for me to avoid the same mistake over and over again. well this is just my opinion and not an expert one indeed but it works for me though.
take care and have a lovely day...
faith210
@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
12 Jul 11
Hi!
I completely understand you and it is just right. When something bad happened, we should move on, but we also need to keep in mind the lesson that could be learned from it and apply it as we go on with life.
Happy mylottting!
@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
20 Jul 11
There's been several parts in my life where I've been done so wrong and dirty however, I can forgive but I can never ever forget. After all, I am human and even though I'm supposed to forgive and forget, I can't. Even with friendships, I put my all into a friendship only for the friend to not like what I say or do or use something against me that they know I hold close to my heart in secrecy or not which hurts me to no end. So from now on, know this about me, this is me, like me or not, this is me. I don't go around hurting anybody intentionally and if I do hurt someone, I'm first to apologize because it's not my way to hurt anybody.
@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
22 Jul 11
Hi!
Yes, it's not easy to forget. We can forgive, but to forget what happened is even harder than forgiving.
Thanks and have a nice day!
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Jul 11
hi Bannybanzie it really depends on what the person has done,most things are minor and sure forget and forgive, but when a beloved parent betrays a little 8 yr old girl and molests her,injuring her so she will have trouble when she bears children. the adult woman can forgive that man who claims to be her father, but I guarantee you I have never forgotten. because of a selfish single criminal act by my own father,I had to have an emergency hysterectomy to save my life and had to be happy with having only two children. As it was we lost our own 8 yr.old daughter to pneumonia so I only had one child and of course could have no more. I as an adult forgave him but no I did not forget it,how could I? the magnitude of his action was actually criminal and should have been punished but never was to save my mom that humiliation. No I am no longer angry just numb.I respected him a nd forgave him to save myself from the sickness hatred caused in me. bu t no I cannot forget as he changed my life.
@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
12 Jul 11
Hi!
It is such a big crime that he had committed. I am happy that you have released the hatred in your heart. It would really not be good as it would not affect that person but rather us. It will only make us sick to keep on hating and being angry to the disrespect that has been done.
Some events in life could really never be erased in memory specially tragic ones. I hope you the best of life, for you and your whole family and your child! Be happy!
Remember this one verse of the Bible:
Romans 12:19 - Do not avenge yourselves, beloved, but yield place to the wrath; for it is written: Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says God.
Always be strong and have a good life!
@didi13 (2926)
• Romania
12 Jul 11
Forgiveness does not let him, the one who wrong us, to leave without giving an explanation. The need to permit him to us was wrong to discharge soul explaining how it came to wrong or what deficiencies were found in us which they have made ??mistakes. So can we hold accountable all those who wrong us by their actions.
Forgiveness means not afford to be offended repeatedly. Forgiveness does not mean, however, to tolerate disrespectful or offensive manifestations constant. Not have to tolerate offenses, no disrespect or any other form of abuse from those who wrong us.
Forgiveness does not mean we should resign to be victims. Forgiving, do not say: "What you do is good, so continue to treat me like this." Moreover, we should not usurping the role of martyr, always forgiving others just because we feel good in the role of victim.
Forgiveness is not reconciliation. We can forgive someone even if we manage to get along perfectly with the person who offended us.
Forgiveness is a process, not an accident. Perhaps it will take some time to solve our problems before being able to truly forgive. For those Forgiveness is a process, not an act that occurs in an instant. Forgiveness takes time and constant effort. Manifest in attitudes, words and mental disposition of each of us. Must be a mental disposition of real forgiveness, unconditional and irreversible. As soon as we decide to forgive, you have to do it.
@miadsoriano (884)
• Philippines
2 Aug 11
I may forgive, but I don't forget. I think that is the Scorpio in me. But I try, as much as possible, to not let it consume me or else it will affect my life.
@jdex_143 (1093)
• Philippines
12 Jul 11
I think, the forgetting thing depends on how serious the offense has got into you. Personally, if the offense made a great impact to me and hurt me a lot, I think forgetting what had happened would not be easy on my part. I can forgive but I can't totally forget. I agree that when argument arises, I tend to bring back the issue and as a result, the argument will become bigger. I don't know, I don't know if I can ever forget like what others are doing. :(
@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
12 Jul 11
Hi!
I think if we have forgiven someone, we must not bring up the issue again the next time around. That's the only way we can show we have moved on. But of course, it really depends on the sin done.
Enjoy the rest of the day!