DIVORCE here in PHILIPPINES, are you going to agree?!
By witty06
@witty06 (40)
Philippines
3 responses
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
But have you ever thought of those battered wives? husband even? and cannot move on with their lives because they are forever tied because of marriage? There are a lot of women in this situation, they are battered and abused and cannot get away. They can separate but forever be hunted and still married because there is no divorce. But what if there is divorce and they can now use this for them to create a new life, free from battery and abuse.
Have you ever thought that there are really those who gets unhappy with their marriage? And both parties are willing to move on but without divorce they cannot get married and would rather go into relationship and be viewed as "illegal"
There are pros and cons in this matter witty, if divorce will be approved here, i believe it may help a lot given that conditions must be set on when a divorce will be allowed.
@witty06 (40)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Well, I understand about the situation. But since both parties allowed that they have to get married, I guess they are capable enough to handle the situation. They get married because they love each other. I guess they can find other solution rather than getting divorce. They should think about the Children. Who knows they can patch things up and forgive each other.
@xtedaxcvg (3189)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
They can still stay separated right? The only downside is they can't re-marry. And why would they when they can work their marriage out and get help through marriage counseling and the likes. This is what the church teaches - forgiveness and this is the reason why God hates divorce, as it is said in the Bible.
Married couples always have a way to work their relationship out. Have you even considered why the husband/wife batters his spouse? Maybe it's a problem that can be solved through counseling? Why did they even get married in the first place? So what you're saying, jazel_juan is that all those things they said while they were up there in the altar were just a bunch of crap? OK, so the your spouse changed, why not cope with it? Try to help your spouse get back on track. What's the use of that famous line "For better or for worse" anyway?
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
14 Jul 11
I guess we do vary in how we think of Divorce and how it should be used. For me,
xtedaxcvg i still believe in sanctity of marriage, but we cannot also deny that there are really those who go through it not entirely knowing who they are with. There are also cases like those of battered wives and husband, there is a possibility that they did not realize that their spouses are this abusive or brutal for one. As far as i believe, when your spouse starts hitting you, you draw the line there. It is something that never be patched by marriage counselor. And you also ask me on why the husband / wife batters the spouse in the first place and there might be a reason for it? i cannot see any valid reason on why one should batter a spouse. There is really no reason for it... there are those who batter their wife or husband because they only see their spouse as an object. Yes there is a possibility that it can be fixed but there are a lot of cases here in the Philippines that it cannot. Plus there is not even a marriage counselor that i know of ( well in my city that is.) And there are a lot of battered wife / husband that i see suffering everyday. I work in a company where we go to these areas where squalor is present and i have seen their situation, they cannot let go, they cannot move on because they believe they are still tied with their husband and everyday they live with this spouse who do nothing but get drunk, slap their faces...even though they are also called to the Barangay Head and given this "marriage talk" and still it persists and i have seen how these women go through their everyday lives crying and suffering. My heart goes out for them and if divorce is possible here, it is one of those chances where they can totally let go of their spouses and be able to live a life away from them. Yes there is legal separation here which costs a million bucks and yes they can still be separated, but can they totally move on? Still carrying the names of their spouses who abused them and treated them as objects.
This might be long but i am just trying to clarify my thoughts. I still believe in the sanctity of marriage but there are cases where it has to end. Like that one i stated above. The things said in the altar are not a bunch of crap but sad to say there are those who go there in the altar and not mean it. And for the line.."for better or for worse" i really do not think physical abuse is part of it. As for the children, even if separated or divorced, one can still be a better parent i believe rather than have the children see the father slapping the mother on the face. Or live knowing their parents are doing concubinage or adultery.
Oohhh here i go again, i am just to passionate when it comes to these matter.. i might get negged again!
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@strawberrychocodahi (4818)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Exactly what will be the reasons of being sanctified when people try to do things to divorce their spouse. Whatever people reason out if they don't obey what was written in the scriptures, they will never understand the very reasons why God hates Divorce.
In Malachi 2:16 it says "The man who hates and divorces his wife,” says the LORD, the God of Israel, “does violence to the one he should protect, says the LORD Almighty.
in Matthew 19:6 says" So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
In this generation where sin abounds and people just sugar coat the word "I am just human, prone to error" is not an alibi to put what the Law of God is saying. We are the one who is responsible to choose our partner so we better choose according to God's will.
A battered woman or wife does not have the grounds to put his husband in the grounds for divorce. What causes the husband or wife to do that, it can be settled and when it cannot be arrange and the sin still goes on, the believing wife should be separated to his unbelieving husband if the husband likes to but the spouse is not allowed to marry another person as long as the other partner lives or else is committing adultery.
That is why it is clear what God says in His word, what God joined together, let no man put asunder.This is what I do believe in and stand.
@xtedaxcvg (3189)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Sadly, strawberrychocodahi, we're in the era where people's hearts are as hard as rocks. People always have excuses to commit sin now. I think what we should focus on is how to strengthen marriage or how to enforce a more stringent process for would-be married couples.
@strawberrychocodahi (4818)
• Philippines
15 Jul 11
Well xtedaxcvg, it is indeed true that this generation will be more evil and what's needed are man and women of God who will stand to His Words. The devil will really try to destroy family ties and union so even the marriage is also included here. Enforcing rules on aspirant couples is also important but first and foremost is their relationship to the true and living God, without it, it will be impossible that the cornerstone will be holding the two together.
@maean_19 (4655)
• Philippines
16 Jul 11
Hi Witty!
Am I late with this discussion? Anyway, I would not be sound too religious in here because it is given that marriage is sacred. Even in the present laws on marriage and family, I am satisfies with what we have. We have to realize that we are actually practicing partial divorce here.
Religiously speaking, marriage is a sacrament and sacred. In the legal view, it is a special contract between two contracting opposite sexes taking each other as husband and wife and vows to have mutual love, respect, trust, understanding and loyalty.
If we have an absolute divorce, it would be more easier to get marry since if it won't work out, there is also a way out - divorce. Will you give an unfaithful husband or wife to marry the mistress or paramour? That is the purpose of divorce, giving the ex couple to remarry, but not actually solving or dealing what could have been wrong with the marriage.
Moreover, we have to take note that marriage is a responsibility. If divorce will be legalized, marriage is taken as less important. Besides, we have to uplift the essence of the basic unit of the community that is family. More families will have broken homes.
I have relatives in the US who were twice divorce, the effect was more on the children.