dating a younger man
By mswriter
@writergirl74 (802)
United States
July 13, 2011 10:43am CST
I am interested to know on what some of you think about an older woman dating a younger man. Let's say the woman is ten years older. I see men date younger women all the time and it's not frowned upon, but I hear if a woman dates a younger man, she is labeled a "cougar" and it's looked at in a negative light.
What do some of you think? My Mom and I were talking and she feels as though it's a generation gap issue. She said, "it's okay for a little fun, but not for anything serious". I do believe that whether it's a man that's older or a woman, that it shouldn't be too many years, but I don't see anything wrong with it if the two involved parties can meet on some common ground, get along with each other and are happy together.
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@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
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13 Jul 11
Age is irrelevant. If the relationship's healthy (i.e. he's not trying to replace his mother and she's not trying to replace her son), I don't see a problem. Wrinklies FTW!
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
13 Jul 11
LOL!! Well there an attitude on the issue I haven't come across yet. Duly noted. I think I like this response best especially since I have been considering giving this younger guy a shot ;)
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@rosegardens (3034)
• United States
13 Jul 11
I would prefer a man younger than myself. The few men I have dated were in my age range and were not a match. I wonder if a younger man would be a better match for me.
I feel it is a societal double standard that barely a teen gal can date a man old enough to be her grandfather and that is ok, but a woman who dates a man who is 10-15 years younger is looked upon as a cougar.
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
13 Jul 11
I agree with you rose. I certainly don't think it should be okay for one social group and not another. I am currently in a situation where I could date a younger guy and was considering it rather intently. I just wanted to see what some others thought of this. He's on my level so I don't see a major issue with it.
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
Yes, he is. He's really smart too. I think I am going to stop listening to negative onlookers who don't have my best interest at heart and don't care about my happiness. You'd go for it you say? I'll keep you guys posted on how it goes.
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@rosegardens (3034)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I would pursue it if I were in your shoes. It sounds like you already get along quite well, and he must be mature. Good luck!
@manleyjoe (1597)
• United States
15 Jul 11
A word from the younger man. I was 16 years younger than my wife for 34 years. I helped her to raise 9 of her children and two of my own. You see we had both been married to partners that didn't care for us, only for themselves. I guess we got married out of convenience. I was 24 and she was 40 at the time we met and married. Did it work you ask, well we stayed together for 34 years so tel did it work? We would have still been together but God called her home in 2003.
@manleyjoe (1597)
• United States
16 Jul 11
Good luck to ya! If you love each other then age does not make any difference in my opinion. Remember you must also like each other.
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
16 Jul 11
This brought tears to my eyes. What a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing that with me. I needed to know this. It warmed me in a way you couldn't possibly understand. Then again, maybe you do.
I have made my decision about my baby. He is wonderful and waiting for me. He has been there for me quite some time. I had some work to do on me. He needs me. I need him. This conversation has caused me to see things in a way I had not considered before.
I will be going home to be with him shortly.
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
17 Jul 11
Manley, I thought the like part came first or did I miss a memo somewhere? I like him, love him, totally dig him, and vice versa. I know we will be blessed because our goals and intentions match like two A flash cards, lol. I am still going to take my time. You know what they say, "anything good is worth waiting for and fighting for"!
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I dated older and it didn't work. I dated younger and it didn't work out. I dated and married my same age and it didn't work out. I'm gathering that it depends on the two involved PERIOD! Nothing else. I don't think age has a thing to do with it. If two people love each other and can make it work...that's all.
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@lilybug (21107)
• United States
16 Jul 11
I don't personally see anything wrong with it as long as they are happy. I have noticed that women dating older men does seem to be more common though. The only person I have dated that was younger than me was only about 6 months younger, so it didn't really count.
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
16 Jul 11
Yes women with older men has been the norm for quite some time. It's getting a lot more progressive now. People are stepping away from some of the traditions of the past and living their lives for happiness now instead of social stigmas don't you think?
Well at any rate, I think its just simply about two people caring for each other, having the same goal and making it work together. I mean I'm saying that's what it needs to be for me anyway.
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
14 Jul 11
Cougar is the correct label, and it is generally... but always, a negative.
Most women who have a relationship with a much younger man, do so for their own personal ego. "I was able to get him".
This is where "Cougar" comes from. Chasing after a prey to attack and devour.
Further, most of those relationship rarely last. One or the other, moves on, or ditches the other. Again, real Cougars do not play with their catch. They eat it, and move on.
That said, it doesn't have to be this way. There are exceptions, but not very often.
No, there is nothing 'inherently wrong', it just typically doesn't work, and thus people are warned to not do it.
I mean, you do want a good life long marriage, right? Most people do. Well, Cougar relationships typically don't end up that way.
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
15 Jul 11
lol No no no... I do not do Cougars at all. If the girl is older than me, she isn't even on my 'list' of prospective wives.
That said, define 'work'?
Every relationship 'works' for some amount of time. If it didn't, you would never have any relationships at all... right? So they all must start out 'working'.
Now, before I reply, just so we understand each other, nothing I said was meant to reflect on you. I was replying generally. I don't know you. You could be anyone. You could be a guy for all I know. And even with a general rule, there are exceptions. Now too many claim to be the exception, and few are, but you could be. I don't know.
So I am just reply generally.
Generally, cougar relationships don't work. The worse the age difference, the less likely they are to work.
Why don't they work? Well.. there dozens of reasons. I can't cover them all, and I'm not going to try.
But I will relate something that happened recently. A guy contacted a friend of mine, to ask advice on divorcing his wife.
He said that at work, there was a girl who was eyeing him, and he wanted to find out more. But he's married. Married to a lady more than ten years older than him.
When ask why was he even thinking about this, he responded that he was only in his mid thirties. He was handsome and good looking, and yet he was with this girl who was in her early 50s, and she just doesn't look good anymore. He should be with someone his own age, that understands him and doesn't talk down at him like she is his mother, and he was tired of getting teased about his wife.
Now there are many other reasons cougar relationships fail, and you could say this man is a jerk. I'd actually agree with that completely. And no, I have not heard whether he divorced or not. Perhaps my friend smacked some sense into him, I don't know.
But here are some facts. Guys get teased for being with much older women. They do. Guys also start to feel like they have a mother instead of a wife. Sorry it is true. There is inherently a maturity difference between the two, and guys don't like being talked down to, by their wife.
And lastly, when the woman gets older, and the guy realizes there are many younger women that would be happy with him, there is temptation. "Man are scum and jerks and pigs!" I agree, but it is the truth.
Now again... please... I have no idea who you are dating, or who you are. It is possible that NONE of this even remotely applies to you. But... It is what it is.
I wish you the best in your future relationship, and I hope you have a long happy marriage.
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
15 Jul 11
I like that you gave such a lengthy reply. I know you don't know me. And I am very much a woman, lol. I am not a cougar as you call it. I think that is ridiculous so I am sure none of this applies to me. I'm glad I look younger than I am cause in ten years from now he will look older than I am, but again all things you stated are social crap that he and I are both mature enough to deal with. Not to mention his friends don't know my age and all respectively think we are similar in age. So there. Even though I know you are "generally" speaking my reply makes me feel better about it. I will have a long and happy relationship, marriage or whatever we decide to do. Thanks for the well wish!
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I would agree with this if this was the intent behind my situation. Andy, I don't know where you are getting your stats, but I have seen plenty of them work. Even if I decide to go all the way with my guy and I probably will, it most certainly won't be in attempt to brag about being able to "get him" or "devour him" as you put it. Since we have been really good friends for three years and have gotten to know each fairly well, I can completely see us formulating a lasting life long bond. That will be my aim and my hope. I hope you have not been the victim of the "cougar" you speak of. It sure seems like it from your reply. I will agree with you on one thing for certain...cougar relationships most likely don't end up lasting.
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@thinkingoutloud (6127)
• Canada
13 Jul 11
To be honest, I really dislike the term "cougar"... I guess I don't view age as such an issue in a relationship. Granted, I don't think it's right for an 18 year old to be with a 40 year old, simply because the life experience (or lack thereof) is way too much of a gap - but if you're talking about 10 years between adults in their 30s, 40s or older, I don't think it matters. My biggest relationship age gap is 12 years - me being older (and I'm female). No one ever thought the difference was that many years, though. From a visual standpoint alone, I look younger than my actual age apparently and he does look quite a bit older than his age. Regardless, I agree with you... it's about common ground, shared interests and goals, and even having fun. Everyone deserves to find happiness in their lifetime... I don't think that should be governed by the calendar.
@thinkingoutloud (6127)
• Canada
13 Jul 11
^5!! Let's see...I've been through the gamut of age differences... dated a guy 8 years older, married a guy 6 months younger (so same age, basically, except maybe for maturity level *rolls eyes*), and there's the relationship I mentioned with me being 12 years older. I can understand you not wanting to jeopardize the friendship but if you both know you have a "thing" for each other and you already know he doesn't care at all about the age difference, why sacrifice the possibility of something great? If you've been friends for years, you've got some longevity -- maybe it's time now to test it? I say accept the fear (that's always going to be there when stepping into a relationship of ANY age) and give yourself that shot at being happy with someone you already care about.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
13 Jul 11
I can certainly accept this. We have been friends for about three years. He told me a few weeks back that he has always seen me as his partner. I am not really sure what this means as I over analyze everything and need a definition for most things, lol. I use to work for him and he liked my work ethic and how well I performed, so this could be business partner in my mind. He has mentioned the "S" word a time or two where we are concerned but doesn't obsess over that. It has been so long, I'm not even sure I can still do it. Is it like riding a bike, lmbo?
Did I mention we live in different states? He says, "souls know NO distance". I melted when he said this to me. I didn't let him know it though!
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
13 Jul 11
Okay, you're my new mentor, lol. I'll let the cat out of the bag. There's a guy I have been friends with for a few years now and we have this "thing" for each other. I have been reluctant because of age, but he somehow doesn't care. I am nine years and some change older than him, but you can't tell by looking and in terms of maturity either. I want to give it a shot, but I'm a little scared, not to mention I consider to have lost a good guy friend of mine who I thought was going to be the one (he is older than I).
At any rate, it is so good to know, there is another ME out there in the world somewhere, YAY!! In terms of being the older one in the relationship.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I think that the older you get that the more that generation gap closes. I'm 55. When I was 18 it would have been just insane to consider someone 10 years younger than me. At 25, it still would have felt just ridiculous. At 35, I did date a man that was 10 years younger. We had a lot in common and for the most part got along just fine. Still, it didn't work for me. In many ways, he still had a lot of growing to do. Now at 55...I don't think it would really matter to me if the guy was 10 yrs younger as long as we were compatable. I actually think it depends on the two people involved. At 55, I really can't imagine being with someone in their 20's but I really don't think that if I were with a guy in his 40's that would make me a cougar. I really don't like the labels anyway.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
15 Jul 11
Well, look at it this way...if you were the same age then he'd still be a hottie and you you'd still have the same concerns. I kind of know what you mean though. I tend to date men that are younger too and a part of me is just all that much more aware of every wrinkle, crinkle etc.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
The labeling just add to it negatively for me. It's already hard to things that are out of the norm where society is concern. I am quickly learning to take the opinions of others with a grain of salt. Everyone is doing what they want when they want anyway. I should be no different if it makes me happy right? Him being ten years younger than me does make me think. I want this to last. We both want a situation that will. I think that I am obsessing over his age. I just need to go for it. We have so much else in common that I don't think the age thing will matter. He has never mentioned other than to say he gets along better with older woman. I on the other hand, have mentioned it several times. I think its more of an issue for me because I am older and well he's a hottie that any girl and quite a few do, would want.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
A woman 10 years older than the guy?
I don't think there is wrong,10 years is not a big deal.
When men who are older for 30 years than the girl-it is fine for the society to accept,so..what is that 10 years gap between the older woman and the younger guy.
Maybe it makes a big deal when the woman is 30 years older than the guy,that guy could be her son or grandson maybe
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
13 Jul 11
Yeah, I think 30 years is too many years, but I agree...ten is not too many. I dated a guy that I was 15 years older than. He was not mature enough in the proper categories although he did have some maturity about him. He was a little young for me I admit, but he came after me aggressively and well...what the heck was my thought. My kids loved him and still to this day want to know why I want get back with him. They are too young to understand, lol.
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@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
14 Jul 11
I don't see any problems in that as well. My ideal man was someone who's at least 10 years older than me but i ended up getting married to a man three years younger than me. Age gap was never a problem to us, it never caused any trouble. I guess because the age gap is not that huge. Nevertheless if given the opportunity that i'll fall in love with someone 10 years younger than me, i wouldn't mind fighting for that relationship despite people's reaction. What matters is that we both can work things out and what we have for each other is genuine love and affection and not mere lust.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I have to say you are correct. Mutual respect for one another is something we have in common. I am sure we both have a love for each other, but have not been able to truly cultivate it due to distance. I am hoping to close the gap between us very soon. I just wasn't sure I wanted to be the one who was oldest. I dated an older guy once. We were not balanced and not on the same level. In this situation the age gap mattered because he was from a time that severely differed my own. I found myself doing a lot of compromising to be with him. I am glad I have a few different types of experiences to be able to speak eloquently on the subject. I won't let any of them keep me from giving a go with this new guy. I could use some newness and excitement in my life.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
If you grew up in my family you would know why I am a skeptic on everything. We were taught to uphold the family name in the highest regard. Even if it meant sacrificing your own personal happiness. One of the reasons I shun the family so much now. I am just now learning to do what pleases me and makes me happy. It's a far stretch from what I am use to,but I fully intend on exercising these new practices to the fullest extent possible.
@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
14 Jul 11
Go for it. I'm happy that you find excitement and seems to be happy in that situation. Never allow anybody to stop you from feeling happy. AS long as you're not doing anything wrong or illegal then do whatever pleases you.
@greenmachine45 (430)
• United States
14 Jul 11
W call it robbing the cradle. I see nothing wrong with it either way as long as their both adults. I have been talking to a guy 6 yrs younger than myself the funny thing is we both have 3 yr old kids that are 3 days apart. I don't usually date guys much older than myself but decided to try a an older man thinking they were more mature and not after just 1 thing and much more ready to settle down like younger guys usually are after. I found guys much older than myself no different than younger guys.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
That is my sentiment exactly that they are all the same. From what I am gathering it's all about finding one you can grow with, have some similar interests, and be happy with. Sure sounds like you have found that. I am after the exact same thing. Actually, I believe I have it. I was too focused on an older guy who let me down to notice that I had what I wanted right before my eyes the whole time. Plus I was letting the age factor get in the way. The younger guy has more than proven he can handle a mature woman. In fact, I think he favors the idea more so than I which is a plus. I have a few more bones to bury in my hometown and then its back up North to be with him. I'm ready to see what lies ahead for us.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
My sweetie told me, "souls know NO distance". I believe that. I say take your time. It has taken me three years before I am deciding this is what I want to do. I am so moving closer to him the second I have the chance. I don't know if this is an option for you all, but if it's love I would do all I can for it.
@greenmachine45 (430)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I'm not sure if I had found it yet. Were both being stubborn and both of us having kids it's tough for us to see each other. He lives in Louisiana and I live in Iowa so were many miles apart. I wish you luck and hope things work the way you want it.
@redvakaurvaki (4216)
• Indonesia
14 Jul 11
I know that many man now dating with the woman older 10 years or more.I don't know what the phenomenon it is but I won't have confidence to dating young man, so I won't do that.Dating with younger man, even he's just 3 or 4 years difference will make me so scary and feel so much older as woman
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I can definitely see how it would make you feel scary. I have been scared also. The other options have not been so great though. So, I have decided to try it anyway. We only live once and I don't want to have missed out on a great relationship because I was afraid to try.
@redvakaurvaki (4216)
• Indonesia
14 Jul 11
that's true, but it's seems kind of paranoid for me.I'm afraid of looking too old instead my boyfriend
I don't know how to controll this
@redvakaurvaki (4216)
• Indonesia
15 Jul 11
hahahahah.... nice advice exactly
actually it's all about self confidence, dear.I'm too shy and care about what people said about me.it's terrible!!
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
14 Jul 11
My mom is 7 years older than my dad and they have been married for 27 years now! They are so happy. Before my dad she was with an older man than her by 3 years and he beat the life out of her practically. So, I think it depends on the people involved. Sometimes it can work and other times it cannot.
Some men are mature when they are younger, some never grow up so you never know really...
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I agree with it being the two involved one hundred. I have tried my age, younger, and older, and I'm not with any of them now. This guy just happens to be younger, but he's on my level more than anyone I have ever dealt with. I am attracted to his mind, not his age. Because I am older I guess I didn't want to face ridicule, but I'm getting to the point that I don't care what anyone has to say. Like or leave it.
As long as we are happy, that is all that should matter.
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@jwill3 (16)
• United States
13 Jul 11
Forget about it!!!! If an older woman is dating a younger man, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Age is but a number, it's hard enough finding compatibility these days. I don't think people should get hung up anything as trivial as what's printed on a birth certificate.
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@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I agree. I got my initial advice from someone who doesn't care much about my happiness so you'll have to excuse my ignorance. I have been sharing here on the site and have a much better take on things. I totally plan on going for it.
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@saigonwarrior (1331)
• United States
14 Jul 11
Some men like older women because they have less hang-ups about life. After becoming older you seem to become a bit more relaxed about life. I know that I have. I don't see anything wrong with it. Women live longer than men most times, so after you reach a certain age you may not find an older guy to be with!! lol
Age is a state of mind, a label. Who is to say what is age appropriate? Live and let live :) As long as the couple is happy, who cares?
@saigonwarrior (1331)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I have good genes, also. The whole side of my Mom's family (13 siblings) all still alive and most look at least 15 yrs younger than they are. My Mom is 76 and people think she is around 60 yrs old. Fortunately I take after my Mom's side. People have actually asked my husband if I was his daughter..lol
I love it!
Good for YOU! Go for it!! I would!
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
That is what I love about my genes. I have good ones on both sides. My grandmother on my moms side is 74. She looks it but she is strong and has a long life line. Which is good for me. I get to reap some of that. Having a good heart morally helps too in my opinion. My dad's mom, well she passed away, but that was from aggravation if you ask me, but she looked great when she did leave. As long as I continue to take care of myself, which I am heavily into, I should be good. Having someone to look good for is definitely a motivator ;)
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
14 Jul 11
It is like taboo right? Its like always frowned upon by people..like also when a woman cheats, it is also is a big issue.
Personally, i do not really mind, Love is love. it does not choose the age, the time..the place. I even know someone, a family friend, my mother's friend and she is like 40 years old that time..when she met this man who is 20 years old..so half her age and they did fall in love. People frowned upon them, talk behind their backs and stuff like that..but guess what? they are still together till now. They just go beyond the norms of society and i do not find it wrong.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
WOW. Twenty years difference and it works. I guess anything is possible. This is so uplifting. I would have been afraid deathly to get serious with a guy half my age. He's so young and inexperienced isn't he? Or is he? I have learned from my own life age does not keep one from being experienced. I had quite an eventful childhood and early adult life. I am proud to say things are calming down a bit and realizing some normalcy. I am so glad you posted this. I am truly going to let go of my inhibitions and gives things a try with my friend.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I know you are right about this. When two people really want something they will find a way to work it out. I don't want to go into it thinking that their might be a problem. I want things to be free flowing and honest. I also don't want to lose the communication between us. We already talk really well, so that should not be an issue. I am going to keep a positive outlook and do my best to let my guard down and be trusting. Giving this a real chance. I don't want to say I will throw caution completely to the wind, but I will give it a good try.
@phyrre (2317)
• United States
13 Jul 11
I think that if men can date younger women then women can date younger men. It's just kind of sexist to think of it any other way.
My mother married my father, who is 13 years older than her. When they got divorced, she then turned and married someone like 13/14 years younger than her. It's a little weird because my step father is only 5 years older than I am, but at the same time it's not really any weirder than my father being 13 years older than her and literally having known her since she was a baby.
I think if the two people are happy then what does it matter? Obviously as long as it's not breaking any laws or anything, that is. I'll admit that it's weird seeing someone who's like 25+ years apart with their partner, but it's their relationship so who am I to tell them they can't do it?
My cousin married one of her brother's friends who was 20 years older than her. They now have three gorgeous children and they're happy. Him being older really wasn't much of an issue for them, so why should I have an issue with it? xD
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
13 Jul 11
I honestly don't think I could have said this better. I have a few more things that I have to "iron out" in my life. Unfortunately, these things have to be done in my home town. But they are soon to be rectified. After which I am thinking of moving to be closer to him. He's ready to cultivate in person.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
13 Jul 11
I agree. I just wondered what were some views from others here. I would love to hear from someone who thinks its a problem. Just to see what they'd have to say. I truly don't see an issue with as long as like my friend Ike said, "it's healthy". This gives me a little hope as I am seriously considering going all the way on a similar situation.
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@sweetloveforeve (13120)
• Portugal
14 Jul 11
i think it isnt a wrong thing as long as the guy really loves the woman. and as long as she loves him. well, if is only attraction also is a good thing as long as no one gets hurt in the end. sometimes people just judge others without knowing them or how they really feel. there are people that have a big difference of ages and are really in love. so what is bad here? as long as both respect each other^^ im happy that you dont judge these people^^ what mattters is to be happy. we live and we should be happy^^
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I don't judge anyone really. I mean who am I that I should or could even for that matter. We are all here to enjoy our lives and be happy right? What makes one person happy may not suit another. I posed the question because I was somewhat reserved about a guy because he is younger than I am. After the very large discussion I have had concerning it the last few days, I have decided to go with it. He's a great person who deserves a woman like me and I deserve him. I think I may even love him already. We will see how it works out. I have a good idea that it's going to be just fine.
@katie0 (5203)
• Japan
18 Jul 11
I think it's fine and women should unite more. See men do whatever they want and are supported, if we do the same we will be more free.
I think it's beautiful to see a older woman with a younger guy, if there are so many men who likes it there are plenty of women that enjoys younger guys too.
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
18 Jul 11
Now that's one way I had not considered and you are right. We should support each other more. It seems there is so much competition amongst women. I frankly have found out of the relationships I have had, I like younger guys better. The older ones can be set in their ways a bit. Younger guys tend to be more open and free in my opinion. Not saying they are all that way, but the ones I have dealt with have been. I totally am going to pursue this relationship with him. He's young in number age, but he's so mature and knows how to handle himself which turns me all the way on, lol...I am so excited about being with him.
@llooll519 (108)
• Portugal
13 Jul 11
There are always exceptions... :) Don't follow it, follow your heart :)
@writergirl74 (802)
• United States
14 Jul 11
I was just thinking this very thing. I hope to go and be with him in a few months. I have a few more things I need to take care of, but past that I am expecting to be with him soon. There more I talk about it here the more excited I am becoming about the thought of this.
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@llooll519 (108)
• Portugal
14 Jul 11
If you won't try, you will never know :) It's just simple as that :)
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