Truth is subjective

Why should it be absolute?

A proven truth is absolute. There is no falsehood because it has been proven to be true and so it is absolute.

Well take science as an example. Science will tell us that one thing is true, but then more information is discovered and proves that it is not, and this happens time and time again. That is the beauty of science. It is always having to adapt. It is hard to say if something is true. If it hasn't been exposed to every single possibility, then how can we know that there isn't even just one exception to the rule? And if life has taught me one thing it's that the possibilities are endless. All my beliefs about anything are flexible. I hold them strongly, but not rigidly. My beliefs are always available for change. I wonder how can we really, absolutely prove that a proven truth is true?

Prove to me that God is not some thought; prove that he is concrete and absolute; that he doesn't follow the rules of universe. If one considers Him as the truth, then he is absolute - to the one believing it. To others, He is not absolute. As far as the other examples, I think that these are good examples of subjective truth. Though to take the killing example further, to some, including myself, killing someone in war is exactly the same if not worse as killing someone on our own accord.

How do you know that a mango is not just a thought? How do you know that it has its own existence. How do you know that it is absolute? If you cannot perceive it, then is it there? How do you define something? Isn't it usually with characteristics? It is just vibrational energy. Why do we say that it is solid? If noone has ever perceived a mango; never tasted, smelled, touched, seen, or heard about it, then would we know of it's existence? Even different people seem different according to situation. A person may seem like a nice, caring person to one; and simultaneously seem like a malicious, angry person to another. It is not a matter of just perception. It isn't that one person is perceiving the person wrongly. They're both true. We define personality by behaviors. Behaviors are just actions and all actions can be perceived differently by different people. So is personality even absolute? I do not think so. If personality is not absolute and people can be defined by their personality, then God, having a personality of his own, cannot be absolute.

Friend, If you think GOD is only some thought then you are right that he is subjective. but i do not think he is only thought that is why i say he is absolute. And i hope you too should be agree provided with these different ifs. Why i think god is subjective is because by God I understand someone who created everything. If he is only a thought then how can some thought create anything. Thought may be different for every body but by God I understand he is one for all. Thought in itself is like a wave in our mind but by God i understand some one who gave us power and freedom of thought. A mango when tasted by different people could be explained and liked differently according to their thought. This does not mean that Mango is subjective. Because mango is not just their thought. It has its own existence and it is absolute.

In regards to your first point, I love this paradox, but think of it this way: if absolute truth is subjective, then it cannot be absolute. The respondent below you mentioned that God is absolute, but I told him that God is only absolute to those who believe in him, therefore, he is subjectively absolute. So I stand in my thoughts that truth is subjective. About your second point, you said, "but rather the subjective truth based on the personal limited senses." Is the "physical" world anything but? If nobody could sense the physical world, would it even exist? I think not. Think of a "solid" wood table. Is it really solid at all? Or do we only perceive it this way? It is just energy condensed to a low vibration. So I'd say that yes it is solid, but it also not solid. The whole world is a paradox in and of itself. About the kelvinometer, that is still subjective if you ask me. How do you know that it can detect the full spectrum of colors? Doesn't it just go by heat? On your third point, "To approach the truth in any subject, I think we need a full study to understand all the parts". Is there any way that anyone can fully understand anything, can fully study anything? I believe that knowledge, like time, is infinite. I have heard the story of the Blind Men and the Elephant before and I think that you make a very good point. Though I think that this can apply to all knowledge. I think that most of the problems in the world come from everyone wanting to be the correct one and not being able to communicate with eachother to combine their knowledge. I agree most definitely with your statement that there is only one truth, but many ways to perceive it. If one were to study religion, then that person would see that ultimately, all religions are talking about the same basic things, and of course religions have evolved from each other as well, so there are many similarities in this way too. You pretty much hit the head on the nail with my point of starting this discussion. I always see so much fighting over religious and other types of beliefs, but if people would stop being so stubborn and just allow themselves to see things from other people's point of view, for even just a moment, then they would see that there is no point in fighting. I believe that all things in this world are equal and that we need to stop worrying about being right all the time because it really doesn't matter. What matters is how we treat the world.

I completely agree. Perception is reality. I think that "crazy" people are a wonderful example, especially compared to a whole group of "sane" people going to war.

I don't know any "sane" people. we are all "crazy" to some extent lol

lol Indeed. :)

And our everyday living is our reality, right? So our beliefs are in essence, our reality and our truth.