Which statements in a discussion you will find extremely unfair?
By gengeni
@gengeni (3308)
Indonesia
July 23, 2011 11:49pm CST
example:
"You just can not tolerate the truth."
Although this means that the one who says that, from his point of view claims that it is the (only) truth is, on the other robs the opposite of any legitimacy for its arguments, which are by this statement is only a form would be about escapism.
Such a statement destroys any discussion. It's like an advanced form of the famous nursery of times, "You're stupid" with the difference that the one who applies it, leaving as a factual and moral victor of the debate.
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@kendedes2011 (2712)
• Indonesia
24 Jul 11
If someone says:
"Must you always have the last word?"
This sentence is totally unnecessary and has nothing to do with the actual situation normally not! Also, it makes me crazy, because the idea is still a debate to defend his position and opinion, and who has the best arguments to "win" in this case I would simply say: No, I do not always have the last word have but if I'm right, then it would be stupid if we pretend that your arguments would be better?
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@crimsonladybug (3112)
• United States
24 Jul 11
And isn't asking that question a way of either A) getting the last word for themselves (if it makes their "opponent" clam up) or B) challenging their opponent to try to, indeed, get the last word?
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@rameshchow (4426)
• India
24 Jul 11
If i found some statement is looking unfair, then i do not want to touch it. Because i wanna be simple, do not wanna go for big controversies.
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@crimsonladybug (3112)
• United States
24 Jul 11
Something I've noticed a lot in debating/discussing is that when a person feels that they are losing their grip on their view, they will use it to counter every point the other person makes, whether it is a valid argument or not.
"The sky is green."
"But what do you think we should do about starving children in Africa when we have so many here at home?"
"The sky is GREEN!!"
Granted not (usually) to that extreme level of irrelevance but ... my answer is any statement, regardless of what it is, that is irrelevant to the discussion but presented in a way that makes it seem relevant. Those tactics are frustrating and eventually turn into a way of browbeating your opponent into surrender.
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@gengeni (3308)
• Indonesia
25 Jul 11
"The sky is green."
haha, your comment is very interesting, I'm happy and laugh out loud when reading your comments. One point is overlooked by me in this case, and you've reminded me about this. Indeed such a state I often find in a debate. Especially when the next party had been depressed and unable to think clearly.
@rifnee (1713)
• Indonesia
24 Jul 11
There are fewer concrete statements (even if exchange-ending phrases like "You can not judge" or manslaughter argument "Hitler" really annoying), but the settings that you go into a discussion.
That's okay in public policy discussions, whether federal or TV because it's not about the actual exchange of views and ideas, but to collect points with viewers.
But a real discussion of features that you are prepared to engage the arguments of the opponent, to discuss to make a change of perspective and open-ended. You do not have to be an advocate of Habermas's discourse ethics, in order to be considered as basic requirements of honest debate the fairness and respect for contrasting opinions.
Of course, there are discussions, which involve only the exchange of rational arguments and at the end wins the further opinion is founded.
But in the socio-political field is respect for and commitment to Understand the fundamental of contrary opinions. Otherwise makes no sense in a discussion. And if someone is the rhetorical moves through the conscious application wants to escape consistently, this is merely an expression of opinion. The call for open discussion, which brings me up the wall.
Honest way: I realize that I just can not always claim a fair price.
@QeeGood (1213)
• Sweden
24 Jul 11
I think everyone is aware of statements that's not acceptable. There are many expressions that are in general degrading people. Best is to write a response with a positive attitude. Treat others as you would like to be treated with dignity and appreciation.
@Emerald20 (130)
• Philippines
24 Jul 11
It's unfair when someone says "you're wrong" because I believe that we giving our own point of view and opinion for a certain topic. someone cannot say I'm wrong if I believe like the exact opposite of the other. It's not necessarily at all. perhaps everybody can say, I disagree because for me bla bla bla. Everybody here has the right to say what's on our mind unless we are stating something that is a fact and scientifically proven.