Excessive Foul Language
@Masihi (4413)
Canada
August 1, 2011 7:21am CST
I don't mind the F-word or a few other swear words once in a while, heck, I say it myself, but I don't say it every other word, or in casual conversation. I prefer clean language when I'm talking casually, seriously, or intelligently with someone, as I find that foul language actually reduces the quality of the conversation. Even in a casual carefree time, with laughter, I don't like hearing language like that. I think those words have a place, but more to express how you're feeling, especially of disgust, anger, frustration, that sort of thing. And not every other word, for heavens sake!
Excessive swearing to me makes me wonder if the person it's coming from is dealing with anger, or bad attitude, or just plain disrespectful. I am mindful of my own use of language in general, and am respectful around people who just don't tolerate it at all. And I certainly try my best to avoid taking G-d's Name in vain, I seriously don't like that at all.
LOL now I await for the religious community here on Mylot to pounce on me like a flock of hens!
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@lumenmom (1986)
• United States
2 Aug 11
This is a subject that has been a sore spot for me mainly with my husband for the last few months. I personally do not use foul language and I really hate hearing it when other people do it. Of course I do realize that everyone is not like me and many do not find it offensive at all. I respect their right to be okay with it even though for me it's like running your fingernails across a chalkboard! However, I do not excuse my husband at all and here is the reason: When he met me he knew I did not use profanity and he never used it around me nor at me. We have been together off and on for about 20+ years. He would use it around the older members of the family and I imagine some friends but never at the small children (nieces and nephews) Now we have a 9 year old daughter and for the last couple of years he has made it a point to use as much profanity as he can muster up, but it's only around me and our daughter. We constantly tell him we are offended by it and he just ignores us. It makes me so angry that he has become so disrespectful to us in that way. It's bad enough having to hear it so much from other people but it's a shame to have to hear it in my own home for no good reason from the very person we should not have to hear it from.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Aug 11
hi I just had to interject here. Have you had your husband see his doctor since he started using more and more profanity? because I
remember reading about a medical condition which has as one of its
symptoms excessive swearing from one who usually does not do a'lot of
swearing. I would sure talk to your family doctor about this as it might be something that could be helped and if its a health issue if he was treated it might stop that desire to use tons of profanity. just a thought that might help. as it sounds like its something that has worsened and that he does not seem to be concerned about it. hope this helps.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Aug 11
Wow, that's scary, sounds like some personality change or something like that, that's freaky. Ya, as Hatley said, perhaps you can figure out the root of the situation? I'm really, truly sorry that you have to be subjected to this awfulness, Ii hope there's a solution...
@lumenmom (1986)
• United States
5 Aug 11
I have been trying to get him evaluated for a long time but everywhere I go they say he has to initiate the process, but he does not think he has a problem. The other day I finally got to attend a meeting for families of people with bi polar disorder (or any other mental illness). I went just because I wanted to be a round people who understand what we are going through. I had a wonderful session with people who described similar issues with their loved ones. It helped to validate my thoughts and feelings. They also gave me a lot of literature and next month they will starting a 12 week class that teaches on how to deal with people who have mental illness and how to take care of yourself in the process. They even give ideas on how to get the person to be evaluated and into treatment. For the first time in a long time I have a glimmer of hope.
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@GardenGerty (160624)
• United States
1 Aug 11
Some religious, and non religious, but very proper people use phrases that I was taught were vulgar. At this point in time my most used expletive is "crap" There are some words, including the "f word" that I will not say, but I feel embarrassed about what I do say. I am a believer, I will not say religious, because religion is man's attempt to reach God, and grace is God reaching down to man. I always felt that using empty swear words is very un intelligent, so I do not do it.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
1 Aug 11
I try my best not to swear, but when I am angry, look out..I also had a friend whose husband used that word in every other sentence at my house in front of my son and my friends son. It got to where I was correcting this guy so much, he ended up going outside and unfortunately my neighbors then got to hear his f-this and that.. It's disgusting...
Now, as for the religious community, if any of my husband's church members are here,(which I seriously doubt) they shouldn't say anything, considering the crap they allow..
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
1 Aug 11
Like I said, I do try to not swear, I guess because I did have a sailors mouth as a teenager. But I wouldn't boot anyone off for swearing on FB, but if it was really bad I might due to my son does occasionally look over my shoulder. The religious people that drive me crazy are the ones that think they know it all, when in reality, most if not all are as lost as the rest of us. Then when someone goes to a church for help,. all they are concerned about is "how much money can we get from them?" The person can be falling horribly in sin, (for example, abusing a family member) but as long as they are faithfully going to church, they don't care..
A little background on me is I use to go to church, then stopped about 2-3 years ago, but stayed with G-d and His teachings. Teachings that were more close to the early church than the church today. Unfortunately my husband went back to the one church that really screwed me up, (shows where his priorities lie)and has turned against me to the point that he even put down my heritage. I have now turned away from G-d, like most atheists have, because "Christians" have shown them nothing but critical judgments...
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
1 Aug 11
It's very common for most gentiles to look down on us Messianic believers, I myself became an agnostic once because of it all, but after doing research and reading the Bible and praying, I figured out it's not G-d that has let us down, it's people that let us down. I'm glad for that. (errr...um, not glad for people that let us down, but glad that G-d is still there, :-p )
I've lost good "Christian" friends because they assumed that I was a bad person because I was struggling in some areas of my life. To them it's easy, but to me it was a hard road. They need to understand that not everyone's up on their level. It hurt like hell :-(
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
1 Aug 11
Yeowch, that's a lot of swearing!! Also the religous folks, they can go from one extreme to the other. The religious folks I know are so uptight about swearing that they even boot people off of their facebook just because they use foul language, then make a fuss about it in their statuses.
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@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
• Australia
1 Aug 11
Yes i agree but know i am also a culprate. I try really hard now not to use bad language as i don't want to pass it on to my son. But this has in turn made me notice how much i actually do it. I have cut back on my swearing alot because of this lately. I don't hink it's a good habit and i know what you are talking about with finding it offensive because some people i hear swearing and i can't handle it. It is somewhat disgusting and must be a turn off to so many. Noone want's to be known as a gutter mouth.
@megamatt (14292)
• United States
1 Aug 11
Once in a while out of anger, I can really see that and understand. I mean we all have our breaking points and there is just some times where life is going to get the better of us. Therefore, we are going to break down and curse out a lot of the people to say the very least or times where something bad happens that we just blurt out something that we might not normally under any circumstances.
There are a lot of times where a lot of people use said words way too often for my liking to say the very least. Especially when every other word is a curse word, than they kind of lose their whatever purpose they might say. Granted, there are many people who when the drinks get flowing for some people and their tongue gets rather slick. At least that is what I really think a lot of the time. So its fine if they slip out in anger, but casually speaking, you should try and avoid them, unless you really cannot avoid them, if that makes sense.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
1 Aug 11
That's exactly my point, megamatt, people need to draw a fine line somewhere, seriously. I mean we don't swear in our work places, right? Then why should we mouth off at other places?
BTW if you don't swear at all in breaking times you're not human!
@aimend13 (51)
• United States
1 Aug 11
I'm gonna have to go with the opposite of what a lot of other people are saying.
To me, words are only "bad" if you make them bad. The "f-word" really isn't different then any other word in the English language and if you were to take away the "bad" connotation, it's meaning would still stand.
I will admit that I definitely swear like a sailor, but it's not because I can't find other words to express what I'm trying to say. It's just that I don't buy into the taboo of swear words and so don't feel bad saying them.
Of course because of the society we live in I know when to tone it down and when not to, for example you can't drop an f-bomb in the middle of a job interview and still expect to be hired.
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@GardenGerty (160624)
• United States
1 Aug 11
When I did daycare, and when my children were little, I explained to them that words are just combinations of letters, but some people feel bad about certain ways that words are used. I agree with Masihi when she says that sometimes those expletives reflect anger and being out of control. I know that we give the power to the words that we call bad, and I also know that if the Angles and Saxons had defeated the Normans, defecate would be a bad word and Sh--- would be the accepted word. Along with crap.
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@aimend13 (51)
• United States
2 Aug 11
Masihi: I do swear in public when people can hear me. I mean all in all I don't care much about what people think about me. If I'm in a store or restaurant with a a friend or talking on the phone, I'll swear and not feel particularly bad about it. I would never swear at work, because that's considered socially "unacceptable" for the reasons I specified earlier. It's not that bad words are inherently bad, it's just that society decided to make them "bad". I consider myself a generally articulate person, and I don't think that my swearing actually makes me any less so.
GardenGerty: I totally understand how people can feel that using swear words can reflect being out of control or anger. But, if you say sugar instead of sh*t aren't you saying it in the same context? If that's the case then sugar becomes an expletive, whether you want it to be or not. Language is so interesting to me because it really has no meaning beyond what we as a society decide. You're completely right, without certain people deciding certain meanings words are nothing but a bunch of letters formed in certain patterns.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
7 Aug 11
I'm with you on this matter in every way. You state things very well.
I use the F word occasionally when I want to vividly colour what I'm saying, usually in disgust, distaste, disdain or chagrin. I only use it when I converse with my good friend.
I used to not worry if I heard it on TV but you hear it so much now...that and mother f...ker and c..k s..ker and sometimes even worse. The new thing seems to be that I now often hear women say it on TV. I'm hearing it during daytime movies when there are likely to be littlies around.
As for the other, I cringe or shudder inside when I hear people say OMG and especially the full version. You even here children saying it and I'm sure it's just thoughtlessness but people should realise that it's blasphemy and it's wrong. Has that message been lost somehow??
I seem to be shocked and disgusted more often these days...is it my age (58) or are the times changing and human standards going even further downhill??
@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
9 Aug 11
Nope, it's not your age, it's the time period that we live in, people just have no morals anymore, or so it seems. I remember the first time I heard a woman swearing was on a movie and boy was I ever SHOCKED!!! It sounded disgusting. Then to make matters worse, I myself fell into this category. I don't want to be a part of that category anymore :-s
@JudgeIronFist (2472)
• Singapore
2 Aug 11
LOL! Reading about this reminds me of an article I read on Yahoo yesterday. It happened in my country anyway, but I think it's worth to talk about it here. They were reporting about this university valedictorian who was appointed the speaker of the graduation speech. She was speaking with such enthusiasm and happiness that it was over, i mean, her university days are over, her studying and slogging days are finally over and you know what? At her concluding sentence, she just said it in a moment of jest, 'We f**king did it!' and everybody cheered out loud LOL!!! Wow I couldn't imagine what those professors will think but anyway, I think she's just too happy that's all. She didn't mean any harm but surprisingly, even I felt strange when she said that F word. LOL
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Aug 11
Wow, that's a lot of courage to outright say it on stage, though! Definitely a memorial day at the university
@chiwasaki (4694)
• Philippines
2 Aug 11
I also don't like hearing excessive foul language. Whether it is just a form of expression or just a way to release their anger. I personally don't use foul language, probably because I'm not to used to it and I didn't hear my parents using such language.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Aug 11
That's good that you didn't hear your parents swear. My husband grew up where his father and grandparents all swore like sailors (his mother don't swear hardly at all), and my 2nd foster home had a lot of foul language myself, so I guess I wasn't shelthered. I don't want my kids swearing, so I'm trying not to, I think Hubby is trying not to but he swears more than I do.
@osirus13 (36)
• United States
2 Aug 11
I agree with you for the fact that swearing is very anti climatic in a conversation. I believe most people swear is because people tend to pay attention to the one swearing so often, but little do they know its not the kind of attention they want...
I myself strain from excessivly swearing, because I believe only mature intelligent people use appropriate language in any situation.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Aug 11
Hmm...that's an interesting take, I didn't realise that the swearer gets the most attention, but now that you mention it, I have to agree with you. I know that when I used to swear, people would immediately jump on the swear word and and totally miss what I was saying as a topic, which annoyed me to no end. I think that's one reason why I don't swear near as much as I used to.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
2 Aug 11
I am offended when a person i am speaking to, speaks some foul language, specially when in an office. I think as you have said, it could be said when expressing disgust , anger or frustration.
However, as much as possible i don't like hearing those foul words, because i feel like it's not a respectable manner to speak of it. Though, it's not directed to me, when i hear it, i still feel offended.
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@fabsprecious (1565)
• United States
10 Aug 11
I will be the first to admit that I am completely at fault when it comes to foul language, when I am with friends or my hubby and we're just messing around. We do a lot of dirty jokes and have fun, so for that I am VERY GUIlTY. LOL
But however, when I am at work, with my kids and other places, I always conduct myself in an appropriate and respectful manner. Like you said there is always a place and a time for that type of language, so if I am not comfortable with the people that surround me and/or I don't have confidence, my conversations are always civil and clean.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
10 Aug 11
Hubby doesn't like swearing at all, even though he swears more than I do. At least he only does it when he's mad.
@nightarchangel (40)
• Philippines
2 Aug 11
Your views show maturity when it comes to dealing with communication and good interpersonal relationships. I agree with you regarding the disadvantages of swearing, because such negative actions not only hurt other people, but it also destroys the self-image of a person who misuses verbal language. Some think that excessive swearing sounds cool and "mature", yet seriously, it does not benefit others. Most importantly, to have a harmonious bond with other people starts in discipline- whether thoughts, words, or actions.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Aug 11
You're totally right it never benefitted anyone in the past or nowadays. I've noticed that people who swear every day are very angry deep inside, that's what I've observed over the years.
@Maxine1renee (64)
• Philippines
2 Aug 11
LOL i am pouncing you now! i never heard my dad cursing & my mom only utters "lightning" which when translated to our vernacular language is the lowest amongst the low of cursing. We the children are following her too & sometimes it feels nice. lol And for me I added spice to that instead of saying "Oh sh*t!" I'll say: Oh shucks! (i am proud i am innovative hehehe). Except for the men in dad's side, women are swearing in every breath they take! Its weird & annoying.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Aug 11
Wow, women swearing in every breath and not the men?? That's rather odd, because it's usually the men who are a lot worse than women :-p I know it especially doesn't sound good to hear curse words from the women, and i think it's the feminist movement back in the 1960's that seemed to "liberate" women to have gutter mouths.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
1 Aug 11
My brother in law picked up a disk and on the cover it had a warning about strong language. He said it should be called weak language. I totally agree. I think it is horrible to hear excessive foul language. I don't like to hear someone using a swear word in front of children. I think taking a religious man's name in vain is wrong. I use words like bother, sugar and oh no. A person using lots of swear words has a bad attitude. Using just a few swear words could be the average person.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
1 Aug 11
Yeap, so true, nobody likes a gutter mouth, that's for sure. Use of language speaks volumes about a person's character.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Aug 11
Masihi I am a C hristian of sorts but I sure do not belong to mylots religious community. However when I hear people swear every other word I begin to think they are either too lazy to use proper English or they really have a very limited vocabulary. Of course I have let out a few bad words when I was really angry or shocked but I do not pepper my usual ever day conversations with others with these bad words. I have a BA in English so try to make myself use proper words not swear or cuss words as for the F word I myself feel its ugly and demeaning to women and men. Making love should not be equated with cuss words not if two people love each other really. Also I do not ever take the name of the Lord in vain .As a toddler my mom and dad taught me that and its stayed with me now I am elderly too.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Aug 11
Ya, I find it really degrading in everyday speech, big time. I do understand in anger or something like that, but seriously, the English Language has lots of other words for us to use for everyday speech!
I nearly failed my English subject, but I do know how to use proper English as growing up I was constantly reading a book - any book I could get my hands on, I still read now but nt as much as I used to. I read articles online, though. That's where I learned my proper English.
@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
2 Aug 11
Like you i am not into foul words. I only use them when i'm really really mad and it rarely happens. I try to avoid using those foul languages and my tongue is not used to them.
I have unfollowed people in my twitter who would utter those words every time they tweet. It's just a total turn off for me.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Aug 11
I can see if people constantly swearing and that's basically all you see on your wall, then ya, you do have a right to unfollow/unfriend the person. I did it once because the guy was like (expletive) everything and he's a grown man, he should know better than that. It's very childish, really. (He was one of my foster brothers, and is a very nice guy in general, so that's why I was so hesitant to unfriend him at first.)
@NoWayRo (1061)
• Romania
1 Aug 11
I am guilty on all counts
I picked up a very foul language at home - both my parents cursed a lot; I picked up even more in my first job - being a sports journalist didn't help one bit; and even after I quit that job, I remained addicted to a particular football team, and going to the matches ever other week did not help either. I almost never curse in English - it's not my mother tongue, so it's no fun.
I try not to alienate people I don't know, so I control what I say in front of strangers, but that's about it. All I can say in my defense is that I almost never direct a curse at a person - I just have foul things to say about objects, life, weather, towns, trains, airplanes and all sorts of things
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@RBBantiles (347)
• Philippines
2 Aug 11
I really try to refrain from four-letter words and cuss words. In fact, I tend to use diplomatic words. Of course, this may also cause misunderstanding, especially as to intent, determination, and force. So to make sure that the range of meaning is fully understood by those who must NOT misunderstand them, I will call the main party aside - person to person - to give emphasis and avoid any misinterpretation.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
2 Aug 11
That's good to be diplomatic, though, it has kept me out of trouble! :-D
@astroversion (210)
• Philippines
1 Aug 11
It is annoying to hear lots of swearing/foul language. It can be used in moderation like when get really pissed on something or you get hurt ( lets say you cut yourself with a knife). It ruins a good conversation when you talk around people sensitive with the remarks. Sometimes I find it offending and disrespectful. Everybody does not talk like a rapper (rated with explicit language content).lol
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
1 Aug 11
Yes, it degrades the quality of a conversation big time. It just has that effect, for some reason.