civilian conservation corps
earning our benefits
job corps
jobs for unemployed
works progress administration
With our unemployment figures do you think it is time
@GardenGerty (160879)
United States
August 8, 2011 5:02pm CST
for programs like the WPA and CCC to come back? Briefly, WPA used unskilled unemployed people to do government jobs, such as construction, and CCC provided conservation jobs for young unemployed men. In this day and age women should be included. I think this would be better than people like me drawing unemployment or getting other kinds of assistance without going to work. In the case of the CCC, which originally dealt with people under 25, I speculate that young people who would be employed would not be as likely to get into gangs and drugs. Or do you think Job Corps fills the need that CCC did in the 1930"s and 40's? I welcome comments and opinions, because I am not really strong on my history of that era. I want to know what the downside would be to this as well as the positive outcomes that I think would happen.
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@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
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9 Aug 11
I've always liked this sort of program but they're incredibly hard to administer. Some people just aren't suited to the work and the majority of them don't want to do it, so you get sucky results (and they get bad pay). A great idea but not easily done.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
Oh, I am sure it would not be easy, and I am sure that people are reluctant, but I do not believe that we are happy when we do not have meaningful work, and I believe it could benefit many people in our society. Some people even do sucky jobs when they get excellent pay, and even fourteen and fifteen year olds complain when they are offered a job for minimum wage.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
8 Aug 11
I don't know anything about these programs, but they sound good..I would also like a program for older women who don't have much experience working outside the home..
@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
8 Aug 11
There are programs, but they do not get that much support or have that many resources. It used to be called Green Thumb and was for workers over 55. They used to have an office in my town. As it is now, the agency has not had representatives come to my town for almost a year. In those types of programs the government subsidizes the hiring of an employee for three months. At the end of the three months the agency can decide if the worker is someone they want to keep. They have gotten them trained with little or no expense.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
9 Aug 11
Oh no Hatley, that stinks.. I don't know if there are writing that pays a lot. I did sign up for one last year, but only did one article before school started and never had time to go back to know if one who has the time can make enough...
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Aug 11
I am wondering if I should try the writing sites on the web
as I could use more money and i cannot physically go out to the library or hospital and work anymore as a nurses aide. My god why does my insurance not cover all the ambulance costs , it did last year. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. now today on top of all other worries I have had four responses wiped out by mylot. why is this happening grrrrrr
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@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
10 Aug 11
I think there is a need for something aside from job corps. Though I don't know much about the programs you mentioned. But I think this would solve some of our unemployment problems and crime issues. As I've mentioned around here that people in the inner city are so used to living on assistance and illegal activites they don't want to realize the value of an honest living. As my opinion is that there are no factory jobs anymore where you can earn a nice wage being an apprentice out of high school. Everything that pays better than minimum wage basically asks for a college degree of some sort. Where is the opportunity for those who cannot go to college or are not capable of doing college level course work? And depending on where they live thug life is a career opportunity not criminal behavior as many would disagree with.
I think if there's more opportunity available to EVERYONE no matter their age ect that things would be better all around.
And along this line they are having drama in a county nearby because they are using jail inmates to mow the grass and do other work like that because the counties cannot afford to pay a city employee a union wage to do it.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
11 Aug 11
We have jail trustees that help with the maintenance and trash at the sides of the road. They also get to help out at the State Fair with trash, etc. Local jail here has a garden, and any surplus that is not used in the jail kitchen gets donated to the Senior Center and to the Food Bank. They also go help at the Humane Society by walking dogs. People who have not seen the value of work do not know the value of work.
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
29 Aug 11
What you say about the value of work is so true! I'm sure that if they had more people doing some kind of work in the community in order to get hand-outs that people would have a better self-image.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
11 Aug 11
I'm not sure I have this right, but I observed in China when I was working there that people would do street cleaning or similar menial jobs in the communities where I was teaching. I was told that they were paid a small amount and provided with food and shelter, even if they were minimal. I don't know if that is true, but if it is that might be something that communities might want to consider in order to help relieve some of the pressure of people who can't afford to live and don't have jobs. It seems like a community can purchase and renovate a building that could provide housing for singles or couples or even small families who could work in the community on projects such as the lawn mowing you mentioned or even garbage clean up. I'm sure that if communities wanted to they could provide opportunities to keep people out of trouble.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Aug 11
hi GardenGerty the unemployment here in orange county Calif is just unbelievable and my son still has only a part time job . We sure need something like what they had when I was littlte. the ccc'and the wpa helped so many people and uped the economy too. why cannot our new President do something of this nature now before things get any tougher. my son still only has a part time job and is paying 150 dollars a month on our storage bill.if he could just get a f ull time job computer programming again we could soon get into an
apartment again. b ut till then we just bide our time. we need work programs and need them now.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
8 Aug 11
Oh Hatley, it breaks my heart that your son hasn't found a good full time job yet.. I had hoped by now he would have, but I know if he did, you will let us all know a.s.a.p....
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
8 Aug 11
Actually, this thought hit my head as I was crawling in bed the other night and it just really jolted me. Why hasn't the Pres, or congress or anyone suggested this type of opportunity for all of the people who cannot find work?!!! It would accomplish a lot in our communities, we could get things done and have programs staffed that are losing funds. People could paint, and build, and repair, and provide day care, or homemaker services and we would all benefit. For someone like your son, they could pay him to do programming for not for profit associations. I know that I am not smarter than all of our politicians, so why am I the only one thinking about these things?
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Aug 11
hi carm I sure will, I just wish he would try a bit harder if he has not, its so important and he comes up with 150 each month for storage on our stuff so we do not lose it.we manage buts it is hard and now I have got the copay for the ambulance trips for my fall, and mine is again 150, I already am paying down 25 dollars on the ambulance for the high blood sugar Ihave paid it down from 150 to 100. myinsurance covered the rest, Icannot believe how horrendous the charges were and my insurance did write off 475 for the two trips to the ers that was part of that. the first time they did not check that I COULD not walk on my right leg, just xrayed no broken bones send her home,well the next morning when christine heard I cou ld not stand to walk on myright leg she called my doctor who told her to send me to the er in his hospital it took all day for them to decide to send me to Care house rehab hospital.lord. so now I actually owe one hundred plus one hundred fifty and how I am to pay this when I only have 125 left after Gold crest takes out rent and board from mysocial security and ssi checks is beyond me.
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@celticeagle (168126)
• Boise, Idaho
9 Aug 11
That's a very good idea. Get some people working again. I think they do this with the corp for troubled youth too. I really think this is a good idea. But how do you communicate it to the government. I would email them. Your reps in your area. The sooner you start the sooner you will get an answer!
@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
They also have Americorp, where you can get money taken off of your student loan if you do certain types of community service or take a job in a certain targeted area. I am thinking I may need to do some more research, because I know of other programs we used to have and I wonder where they are now. It is just that we also need work for people like me who are too young and indebted to retire, but too old to compete with the youngsters on equal footing.
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
11 Aug 11
I am in the same boat with being too young to retire and too old to compete with the youngsters. I think it would take more than just one person emailing their rep. Maybe if each community were to put together petitions or have everyone in each community to do something it might work. I just wish I knew how to make things happen.
@celticeagle (168126)
• Boise, Idaho
10 Aug 11
Well, go girl! I think that is a great research project.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Aug 11
I think it would be a great idea. Of course, it must not be forced, but to make it an option would be great.
Trouble is, what would old folks like me do? I sure can't do construction.
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
11 Aug 11
They might be able to provide opportunities for older people to do more sedentary jobs like office work or the logistics that it takes to support the people who do the construction. If not, they could allow people to do volunteer work for organizations like the Red Cross or similar groups to provide a productive service to the community. I started volunteering for the Red Cross after I was recovered enough from my cancer treatments to be able to do productive work. I think that anyone should be required to volunteer rather than doing nothing in return for government handouts. What do you think about that?
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
29 Aug 11
I know that today I was at the Red Cross (yes, on Sunday!) making phone calls to see if any of the volunteers on our list would be available to respond to the disasters on the east coast. The first lady I talked to was in the middle of treatment for cancer so wasn't able to respond, but she was willing to work in the local office which is something that is really needed right now since they are downsizing the paid staff in our office so that service will now have to be provided by volunteers. Although I have the required training to work in a shelter, I don't know if I would be allowed to go out since I would have to go between two appointments that I have next month (Sept 1 and 19). I know that many of the volunteer that we had at the Triangle Area Chapter of the American Red Cross were retirees so they had plenty of time on their hands. I don't know why we don't have a more active group here in Mid-Missouri. Have a great week!!!
@peavey (16936)
• United States
9 Aug 11
The only downside I can think of is that too many young people have an entitlement complex and would be offended if they were asked to work for what's being handed to them for doing nothing now. It would probably cause civil unrest, at least in some areas. The nation has more than enough work that needs to be done and I think there was something about putting people to work as part of the stimulus thing, but I never heard anything else about it. The government was going to employ people to work on the infrastructure or something like that.
I don't think the Job Corps fills the need that we have now because it's limited to just young people and it doesn't actually employ them (although it pays a stipend), but it prepares them for jobs which aren't there right now.
I believe we need a plan with three parts:
One, to stop giving incentives and encouragement to send jobs overseas; possibly even tax benefits received from overseas employees by adding taxes to be paid by the employer to the salaries of those who are not American citizens and who do not live here.
Two, secure our borders against illegal immigration and send those we know about back to their own nations. When a nation cannot support its own citizens, it's stupid to try to support another nation's.
Three, initiate at least one program similar to the CCC and make it mandatory (within certain boundaries) that those who have been on unemployment for a certain number of months participate. That would save our government money, do some things that need to be done anyway, and give work to those who need it.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
11 Aug 11
It is sad that our technological education falls so far behind. We have industries that have to have people from Germany and South America to manage the work here in the US because we do not have people with the right training for it. We need to expect more from schools than sports.
@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
You are right, Job Corps is a training program. The stimulus I think is in the highway programs. Every state I have been in in the last year or two has had lots of road repair (needed repair) going on, and some kind of big sign with a bright orange T on it. It is not enough because we cannot all go out and work on the roads. I agree wholeheartedly that the jobs need to stay home. Near me we had all kinds of rumors of a certain industry closing and eventually all kinds of tax concessions were made to the company. They said they would stay, but within the year they started sending parts of the work overseas.
@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
18 Aug 11
Personally there needs to be more options for sure for the Older people who are unemployed more than the younger ones. Personally the younger ones there are more opportunities for them if they really looked. And if they are having Emotional problems or home life problems and struggling Job Corps is a good option. (I graduated from there..)
But personally they say once you are over 50 or 55, unless you work for a company like I am with, or WalMart your chances of getting a decent job somewhere could be hard since you are a Risk for them. If they had more opportunities for them this would alleviate some of the many issues out there for sure.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
19 Aug 11
I will put it this way, I am over fifty five and I am having a heck of a time getting back to work. I have some applications in for some retail positions, and for part time at my old employer. The thing is, there you make $7.75 and hour and are part time, no benefits.In that case I am just as well writing online.One of the retailers pays $11 for full time with benefits. I am praying to hear from them.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
9 Aug 11
I m not either hardly know any thing about it never heard of CCC till back a few years ago think I saw it in a movie.
THat might work but the better thing would get the illeages out of here and outr jobs would be plentiful also get them off the Gobernment pay roll like SSI food stamps and health benifits that some of our umemployed find so hard to get when their unemployment checks run out
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
9 Aug 11
I agree that we need to only have legal workers here. We also need to keep our jobs in the US. I just would rather know that I was doing something to earn the benefits I get and also that they were not going to run out. I would like it if they would pay me to do housekeeping in the hospital or take care of stuff at the parks, etc., just so I would not have to worry about the unemployment running out and me having nothing.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
Not everyone who is out of work is lazy. I am not lazy. I imagine that some people have grown up on some kind of benefit or another and do not know what it feels like to do a satisfactory day's work, so they have no desire to do it.
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@marsha32 (6631)
• United States
9 Aug 11
Your history is better than mine as I've not heard of either of these programs. That's not saying much for me after how ever many years of homeschool kids and teaching them history is it?
To be on public assistance...cash assistance through SRS you have to jump through a lot of loop holes....go to their job training, apply for so many jobs per week, do so many volunteer hours per week etc. They do not make it easy to just sit at home and collect welfare. This is a good thing and any smart person soon realizes they would be making twice as much money if they had an actual job for the hours they are putting in to "sit at home"
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
Hey, Marsha, I just checked with my son, who was brilliant in school. They did not teach this in the public schools either, so do not feel badly. Maybe with your last one you can look at some of this history because it may be going to repeat itself. It is called the New Deal. I really was not fond of what I learned about the agricultural policies as I learned about them from my farming and ranching grandparents and my mom who saw some of the things first hand, but I just was thinking I would not mind having a job so I could earn what I am getting by being unemployed.@Wilsongoddard, My kids went to public school, but they also learned a lot outside of school and started college courses early as well. I think our politicians should be looking at history to see what worked in the past and what did not.
@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
9 Aug 11
The beauty of homeschooling is that kids can (and should) learn far more than they would in public school.
Labor history will a big part of what I will teach my children (complete with songs from Utah Phillips and Woody Guthrie). They will know who the "most dangerous woman" (at the age of 83) was. They will learn about the Spokane free speech fight. They will also learn things such as the Triangle Factory fire (vital to know about, since we are now seeing similar things happening again--in the sweatshops throughout the world).
The more that they know, the better prepared they will be to take on college, grad or professional school and, then, the rest of the world.
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@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
11 Aug 11
If I hadn't been a voracious reader, I would have ended up not making it through or, likely, even to college. The public school that I went to was appallingly bad.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
11 Aug 11
I think that getting these kinds of programs going again would be a big help in the present situation. I know it would improve people's self-image to be doing something productive, especially if they are getting some kind of government hand-out. Not to say that there aren't people out there that will milk the system for all it's worth, but I think a lot of people feel bad that they are getting something for nothing. I think, at least for me, that I would feel better about getting food stamps if I were doing something, even if it is just volunteer work. I know when I was working with the YCC (youth conservation corps) that I was paid for my time, but even if all I got was enough to pay for personal expenses and have everything else provided for me I would still be happy. I wasn't around in those days (my parents were born in '28 and '30) so I don't know the history of that era either, but I do know that it would prevent a lot of problems. Thanks for bringing this up!
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
11 Aug 11
I was just thinking of you today, how are you doing. I like to think that there is something we can do to provide productive work and accomplish some needed things in our society. I have seen some positive posts in this discussion.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
19 Aug 11
Honestly, some of those single parents could provide child care services while other single parents did other volunteer work. Yes, we all need to see the value of honest endeavors.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
11 Aug 11
I have made several suggestions in different boxes in this discussion. I wish that I was more of an organizer so that I could make suggestions that might make a difference. It doesn't help if it is just something being talked about if we can't put it into action and I have never been much of a leader. I am trying to make a difference now with my work with Red Cross Disaster Services. I worked with them (as a volunteer) for about 7 years in NC and I just became active with them again last week. I found out that this community has no resources and I have set a goal of making a difference in my chapter. It might not be a paid position, but since I am doing something productive in return for the entitlements I receive, I don't feel as bad as I did before about getting something for nothing. I'm sure that younger people won't feel the same way I do, but I think everyone who is on any kind of government assistance should be doing something even if it is only volunteering somewhere for 10 or more hours a week. Even single parents should be able to do that if they aren't working. My outlook on life has improved greatly since I finished with chemo and started becoming more involved in the community! Have a great week!!!
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@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
9 Aug 11
These days, many of the people who are either unemployed or underemployed are people who are skilled. My status flips between the two, depending on who is doing the counting. I am looking for, but am unable to find, full-time employment; I haven't even been able to find part-time work outside of the home. I have a college degree and have a strong array of skills; however, I am in an area that has a horrible job market and lack connections here.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
I have many skills, an associate degree, some allied health training that is lapsed. I have connections, but I am at that limbo stage of being almost, but not quite, ready for medicare, and unemployed.
@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
11 Aug 11
I'm still at an age that is sort of what should be early in my career(s). Instead, there really is nothing for me. Without completing a master's, I'm just another unemployed/underemployed person with a B.A., which seems to now be about on par in status with what the high school diploma used to be.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
14 Aug 11
I don't think the Job Corp stands up to the programs you have mentioned. I think that it has helped some because it is an option...but it doesn't fix things.
I am not real up on that time period too but at this point they both sound like better options than what people are facing today. The money seems like it would be much better spent as well.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
19 Aug 11
WPA, the way I understand it, did stimulate a slumping economy. I do not know how many people would be willing though. I still have not searched on what Americorps is doing these days or VISA and VISTA.
@MagicalBubbles (5103)
• Canada
9 Aug 11
I dont know about the US history but I know a little about my history here in Canada. I know that they had unemployed people working so they would get welfare before. They had them build tracks for the trains, build bridges and roads. They kept them working and kept them out of trouble at the same time.
Im not sure this could be done now in our day and age. Not sure young men would want to go to work hard for a welfare check when they could sit at home collecting money and probably working on the black market.
There is a big problem right now with jobless in your country and Im afraid, I dont know what the solution will be to help you out of this hot spot.
Maybe its time to go back to the basics. Help those people feed themselves as we do four poor country. Let them have access to some land where they can grow their own foods.
Of course, if they want to have these people building roads or bridges or whatever, it wont be easy for women to find something to do. Maybe have them work in hospitals, helping feed those who are too sick to do so.
I must say that Im happy to be living in Canada now. Id be so depressed if I were to live South of the border.
I do wish you all the best. You need some strong and smart people to run your country and I dont think any of them are in office now!!
Bless you and good luck !
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
Oh, I hear you about not very smart people running the country. A lot of people join the military, knowing that they will be taken care of and it is more than just too bad that your friend and others like him are not being taken care of. You know, women can work on road construction and drive heavy equipment and commercial trucks, and they can work in hospitals and parks and other places, it is a matter of whether or not people who are out of work would do something like this. I would be willing to. I had a friend/coworker who never complained about any aspect of her job, as she said, "It's all the same pay." I think there are many people who would refuse to raise their own food as well as refuse to work some jobs. I just think we need to do something to get people actually earning the money that they get.
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@MagicalBubbles (5103)
• Canada
11 Aug 11
People have become lazy because they can sit at home and get welfare. They all want to be president of a big company and make the huge salary. I had to quit a good job for the government when I hurt my back and because I was partime, I didnt have insurance. I knew I had to find something, anything. It took me 3 months of searching 8 hrs a day but I found something.
I dont know what the solution is but if nobody finds one soon, it wont be pretty eventually!!
@MagicalBubbles (5103)
• Canada
9 Aug 11
I forgot to say that I have a online friend from Minesota who is a Vietnam Vet. He was waiting for surgery on his shoulders, he's been waiting years to have it done and was told it was going to happen in August. Now apparently, all surgeries have been stopped until further notice. Too bad the cuts have to hit the soldiers who fought!!
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@BellasmamaTiff (2544)
• United States
9 Aug 11
I am a firm believer in JTPA, Workforce investment act, and any other programs which train you and then put you to work in the community. I live in Quincy Illinois, and our unemployment rate went down in the last two months, but is still much higher than it should be. We do have Job Club here, which is just a group which meets one day a week to network, and its at the unemployment office. The workiers at the unemployment office help you learn to make a resume, teach you how to correctly search for employment, how to market your skills and etc. I am a supporter of this program. We also have Transitions CRC which trains people with barriers to employment, such as criminal background, transportation barriers, language barriers, no work history, no relevent work history, no education, no prior training, no childcare, and physical, mental and emotional disabilities, trains them in several areas and then works with them to place them into a community work setting. The training is all paid. I went through this program, but, at the time, unemployment was soooo much worse and they couldn't find spots for the trainees in the community. This has since gotten a LOT better, and I am a firm believer in this program as well, and I try to send people in that direction as often as possible. We need more of these types of programs though Gerty, we really do! Also, Job Corps is a wonderful program as well, and I support them firmly as well. There is also a place in Rantoul IL called Lincoln's Challenge Academy which does a lot of the same things Job Corps does, its a military academy for highschoolers, and they train our kids to be AMAZING, responsible, employable adults. My children will all 4 be attending this program the minute they reach the age!
@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
We do not even have an unemployment office here in my town. I can see that your area is committed to getting people back to work. I know it is hard if there is no job to be had. There used to also be a displaced homemaker program, for older divorced or widowed women, but I am not eligible for that. Your post is definitely a positive example of how tax dollars could be used everywhere.
@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
Yes, I think that this is a truth. I just was wanting to explore any ideas of how to do that.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
9 Aug 11
Well I think it would certainly help get some people employed, but could the government afford to pay them? Of course paying them to work would be better than paying them to not work. I don't see a lot of down sides to it, if there is actual work that needs to be done. I don't think it should be limited to those 25 and under, but getting troubled youths in to work programs is always a good constructive idea. The problem is all the undocumented citizens. If they were not here there would be more jobs available for younger unskilled Americans.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
Oh, no, certainly not restricted to just young people. I was maybe thinking that there should be one program for them and one for other circumstances, like having to leave a job, not having unemployment, and wanting to still stay in the market place so to speak.There is always work that needs to be done, in my opinion.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
10 Aug 11
This is a wonderful idea and I hope that somehow you can make your views known. Sometimes all we need are people with common sense to govern This applies to many countries
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
Common sense, unfortunately, is not that common. Some of our programs that "help" people are very good, such as supplying healthy food to low income infants, a program called WIC. I think that much of our program called Head Start is good, I just know that sitting and doing nothing when I am capable of much more is not good for me and cannot be good for others in this situation.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
9 Aug 11
Hi GardenGerty, the question is: where would the money come from?
Everyone knows that the US government has more debt than money, and everyone knows how they keep saying want to cut down on expenses.
If they can layoff the teachers and other civil servants, what for they want to hire the unskilled people and increase the payroll?
it is better to offer big companies a tax incentive to bring manufacturing jobs back to the country.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
I am suggesting that the same money that is currently going to pay the unemployed should instead be going to employ the unemployed. I would rather be working for what I receive, and keeping what skills I have sharp.
@LaDeBoheme (2004)
• United States
9 Aug 11
I am familiar with the CCC and WPA. They were great programs instituted by Franklin Roosevelt that worked for that era. Today? Hahahahahahaha.
First of all, most of the wages the boys of the CCC earned were sent home to their parents to help with the family's living expenses.
peavey said:
The only downside I can think of is that too many young people have an entitlement complex and would be offended if they were asked to work for what's being handed to them for doing nothing now.
Bingo! I really doubt many young people will go to work to have most of their money turned over to their families, when they are used to having it handed to them.
Another problem -- I believe scheng1 was the first to mention it, who is going to pay them? Helloooo... remember the national debt?
Bottom line: Even if these programs were reinstituted, I firmly believe too many people would think it beneath their dignity (and education and skills) to taking on a unskilled labor job that would require hard work for minimal pay.
BTW, for those of you who haven't heard of the CCC or know what they did, these boys were instrumental in building America's national and state parks.
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
10 Aug 11
Oh, yes, I understand about the entitlement mentality, I have seen it in some jobs I have held. I have seen lots of programs that were helpful programs twisted and abused to become handouts instead of a temporary helping hand. I was not thinking of fresh monies being pulled in, but it is now possible to be on unemployment for 86 weeks, and I have been for over a year. I, personally, would rather have to go do something in order to receive my money than to just file every week. I think someone else said that these problems would be difficult to administer, and I believe that. Maybe an out of work administrator of some kind could work on implementing a program, in exchange for their unemployment check