Allah's exists? Answered by a small boy.
By daud4ms
@daud4ms (218)
United Arab Emirates
August 14, 2011 5:25pm CST
A religious scholar (scholar of religion other than Islam), was once addressing to a group of mixed religions.
While addressing he asked 3 question specially to the muslim members in the group. His intentions were to deviate Muslims from their religious teaching and to give rise to confusions in the minds of Muslims present there.
The 3 Questions he asked were:
Q1. If Allah Exists then there must be some one existed before him?
Q2. Allah's Face is in which direction/side?
Q3. What Allah is doing at this time?
One 9 year old boys stood up from the gathering and asked that scholar to start counting, the scholar looked at boy and smiled as a kid was asking him to count.
The scholar smiled and started counting,1..2..3..4..5..6..7, the boy asked him, now count in reverse order, he did 7..6..5..4..3..2..1..
The boys asked what comes before 1, the scholar replied, 'nothing'.
Boys said, 'Allah is one and no one exists/existed before him. This answered his first question.
Then the boy lighted a candle and asked the scholar that, where is the direction of the light from this candle.
The scholar replied, 'the light is every where in all four sides of the room'.
Boys replied, 'Allah is Noor (a light), and is every where in all directions'. This answered scholar's second question.
And left was third question, that what Allah is doing at this time?, the answer was that, at this time Allah is making a scholar unanswerable and ashamed by a 9 year old boy.
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10 responses
@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
15 Aug 11
It is truly saddening to contemplate the idea that room full of religious scholars are so innumerate as to be unaware that an infinite set of numbers come before the number 1.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
16 Aug 11
Well see Ali619 a number like -999999x10^40 would be smaller than one by a lot. To give you a since of how big this number is. it is -999,999,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. For this boy to be right in this statement he would of had to of been talking of a time when the number zero had yet to of been used or even negatives for that matter which was many thousands of years ago.
@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
15 Aug 11
That would depend what I'm counting.
It's also quite amusing to hear you say I deny what is right when it's you who must deny literally half of existence to make this story work. I'm already on a path that leads to peace and prosperity, broaden your own mind.
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@ali619 (33)
• Pakistan
15 Aug 11
Meaning no offence, but, do you count like 0.00001, 0.00002, 0.00003.............?????
and here was I, thinking I was really stupid....... :)
to which heights would you people go to deny what is right??? it's time you listened to sense..........broaden your minds, come to the path that leads to Peace and prosperity!!!!!!!!
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
15 Aug 11
I have to say that this has several fallacies in it. One circular reasoning. (If nothing comes before one which by the way isn't true. here is a list of some numbers who come before 1. .99,.98,.97-.00,-1,-2,-3,-4,-5,-6,-7,-8,-9,-10... All come before the number 1. So there are many numbers before the number 1.
Then the second one is another fallacy of logic.
I can't trust a story that is being told as if truth when the logic being used is flawed by fallacies of reason and logic. If this is a fictional story which it most likely is because it smells of dogma and propaganda which is a good sign that it is fake. Created by the church to get people to follow there way.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
16 Aug 11
'The Church' includes pretty much every single organized religion where the head people in said religion earn a profit off of it which is pretty much every single one. Hence why I don't go to churches/temples or whatever. They are nothing more than propaganda spewing machines.
@BalthasarTheRat (656)
• United States
16 Aug 11
In the context of the story, "Who came before Allah?", the boy says Allah is "1" and therefore nothing came before him.
Others here have focused on the mathematical truth that quite a bit comes before 1.
Another problem is that "nothing" is a non-answer. If Allah is "1" then the coexistance of everything at "1", the first absence of nothing in that logic, cannot be explained as having come from Allah. Allah, at the very least, had to have come from somewhere. What else was created at that instant? All the boy has done is push the context of the question into a more complicated place: between the nothing and the something.
The question itself is flawed of course by saying "someone" must have come before Him. The question of "what" instead of "who" draws a better debate. If the nothing came before Allah, then the nothing is the impressive one, maybe we should worship that?
The second question is not even a real question. Only someone trying to draw out the kid's answer woud even bother to phrase the question in such a way. Relating Allah to the light from a candle shows spread in simultaneous globe-like direction, but what of the corners around which light cannot bend. Surely the deeper question was whether Allah could be watching everything. The light example fails to answer this.
Finally, it is inteprettation that is lop-sided in the third answer. To say Allah is making the scholar "unanswerable and ashamed" is to deny the intelligence and/or faith of the kid. The least the story could do is give him a little credit. But all credit to Allah, of course, which would mean crediting Him with the failure of these examples too! The lack of viable response is Allah's fault? For shame.
To be truthful anyway, the final answer should be that Allah is turning a 9-year old into a smart-a$$.
Maybe if organized religions spent more time helping those in need as part of their faith instead of spending so much time defending their beliefs or trying to convert others, the world would really be a better place.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
15 Aug 11
These types of stories go around about every religion.
Bill Maher was confronted one time with a somewhat puzzling explanation of the Christians' father, son and holy ghost trinity. A man replied that it's like water - it can be liquid, steam or ice.
These BOOYA moments from religious faithful honestly do nothing to prove the existence of any god. They only work to show that a person's belief is so unwavering that, in their mind, something like water being able to freeze or "light" being seen from any direction is indisputable proof of their god's existence.
To nonbelievers like me, the counting, the light and the third fake "gotcha" bit isn't all that impressive.
If any god exists, I'd personally like to see more definitive evidence than the odd explanations of some supposed small boy. But that's just me.
To each their own.
@hafiz008 (450)
• India
18 Aug 11
This is the greatest post I ever visited by me.I am a Muslim and proud to be a Muslim. If you want answer Allah exist then study holy Quran.It contained highly scientific information related with past, present and future.Do you know the Ramesses II who body has been explored in 1881 but it was said by Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) before 1400 years ago in Qur'an.
" We brought the tribe of Israel across the sea and the Pharaoh and his troops pursued them out of them tyranny and enmity. then, when he has the point of drowning he (pharaoh) said I believe there is no God but him in whom tribe of Israel believe. Iam one of the Muslim. What now! when previously you rebelled and were one of the corrupter`s?. Today we will preserve your body so you can be sign of people who come after you. Surely people are headless of our sign."
(Quran, 10: 90-92)