UK Riots was due to Selfishness and Family Breakdown

hello 2wicelot, here on mylot i am trying to pretend to be a nice person. but this story about our idiot prime minister, the man who smashed up restaurants as a member of the bullingdon club while at university, the man who "gave a second chance" to andy coulson, so he could suck up to murdoch, lecturing the rest of us on morality is extremely annoying and brings out the worst in me. and i can't pretend to be nice. i think cameron's analysis is a bit simplistic, and his responses are knee jerk. i think the country would benefit from a proper enquiry, like the scarman one for the 1980's riots, before we launch on a murdoch pleasing round of simplistic solutions. as these riots started after a man was shot by the police, albeit not a particularly innocent man, but we don't support shoot on sight policing in the uk. and that fact cannot be ignored. i think it was somethingnthat was waiting to happen. i also think recognising that issues liken the mps expenses, and the bailing out of the financial sector, also create the impression that if we cheat we can get easy money. i think cameron would be well advised to remove the plank of wood from his own eye first, on this.

I am back living in Britain temporarily after being in Italy for 36 years and it is no longer the way I remember it. There is no respect among the younger people but I can't see it as their fault. As was said above, the parents are so young, some of them single, and the idea of a family life as I knew it no longer exists. Two things have appalled me that I heard on the radio earlier today regarding how these rioters will be punished. It appears that those rioters found guilty who are receiving benefit will no longer receive it - so what will they do now? rob and burn even more? Those who live in council homes will be evicted - but what about their parents who have lived in those homes for decades and were not involved in the riots and had no idea that their sons and daughters were creating such idiotic havoc? They should lose their homes too? Italy has problems but unless the UK government get their act together I envisage things being much, much worse here before too long

a shame that the riots are going on over there. as to being brainwashed someoen should be teeling them its just a movie not real life as well as just games. The parents that were in on it need big jail time as the ones not needed a whipping when young as well as the kids for being distructive! and parents can control what kids watch or play!

The fundamental cause is not that the children have been brainwashed by movies etc. When I was young, we used to watch movies where people were fabulously wealthy and could travel all over the world, but our parents taught us values. WE also saw movies where the cowboys shot it up with the bad guys, but we had no desire to use weapons and shoot it up. It has to doe with knowing right from wrong. We knew that it was wrong to steal from someone. But now we have people who have been brought up with the idea that if someone has more then you, you can take it from them. Yes the breakdown of the family has contributed to this. When a woman does not have a husband or a male in the house who can ave a firm hand, then the children thinks they can do what they want and even when the woman does finally get married, the children often say, "well you did that when you were my age, I can do the same."

You may recall that I had brought up similar issues in another of your posts. "The economy is the same. People are disillusioned. They have been promised unrealities. They are beginning to realize the truth of the matter. They are unhappy, frustrated, and see no way out. Their only recourse is violence and destruction. The world has fed them these factors for a long time through the entertainment mediums." http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2562489.aspx I was not trying to be pessimistic but pointing to the real underlying issues. If we keep doing the wrong things just how can we expect things get better? We keep feeding children violence through solving problems with wars. We feed them violence daily through entertainment, so much so that they can't tell reality from fiction anymore. How is the future going to be different?

Society used to define who we are by what we do. It now defines us by what we own. Welcome to the 21st Century, where marketing and capitalism rule.

i think that selfishness can be viewed as the cause of any riot or even a war.

2wicelot wow some of the parents were involved too. thats disgusting to say the least. A game well now thats really sick thinking on the part of those kids as they need a dose of reality and maybe a few hard whacks on the butts as well as jail time for the most serious of t he crimes. I Imagine most if not all of those kids need to have some parental overseeing as to what makes people successful, and not stuff. maybe the parents also need some parenting classes themselves to be able to tell kids that stealing and looting and pilfering are crimes publishable by prison terms and that just because they are brat teens they will not be let go from all these crimes.It seems modern people get the idea that success is having all the latest electronic gizmos, cellphone, smart phones expensive lap tops, big houses, expensive cars just like the very wealthy or all the much touted Celebs whom the teens all want to emulate. If the parents feel that is success so will the kids and the kids are taking the easy to get what they want by looting. I hope the courts will be very strict on these kids because just because they are kids when they do adult crimes they should be treated as adults and punished accordingly too.

A very sound conclusion on the part of the prime minister. Gangs hurt communities alot. There are experts who could help with this. I hope that this is a good lesson for all of us. Teach our children well about how to earn and the joy of a good days work. Now they have a hard time ahead of them.

we can say what we like about this topic.but imho its down to taking away the rights of the parents/teachers /police to discipline the children.sure we had trouble when it was allowed but never as much as we now see on the streets today.the children who are rioting now are the grand children of the last generation to be able to take control of their children and do what was needed to control them (i dont mean abuse or batter them here). we had a lot less in the way of entertainment we had a lot less money a lot less material possesions.and we knew where the line was drawn if you over stepped it you were dealt with in no uncertain terms that made you think about doing it again. so perhaps restoring parental/teacher/police rights instead of increasing childrens rights is what we should be looking at giving the rights back to those who should be in control and not those who think they have the right to do as they please regardless of who it affects.

I like the idea of the "National Citizen Service." Also, I'm sure all parties have good solutions that can be used. Killing a teenager (guilty or not) was the excuse to riot. Take that excuse away. There must be better methods than killing somebody. I think this is part of the problem - “Now the immediate security concerns appear to have passed, both leaders want to seize the initiative politically.“ This should be one time when politics should be left out of it. The parties should come together to try to get what's best for the communities and country. Of course, they won't do it. Selfishness rules again.

Were the parents of those kids held responsible to for their kids actions? I believe they should be due to misguidance. As to those parents who took part in the riot, shame on them!

Uk should better deal with riots. Also police procedures should be change. I noticed that police were just standing while shops were looted and houses were alight. How it possible that prime minister still wants make some cuts in police forces. I would like to suggest to him make some cuts with his wages and reduce papers.

it might happens every corner in the world not only in uk,because movie is the nearest media which shows instant impact on exspecially on youngsters and teenagers, easy money, dating, fashion , trend, mobiles, fun these are main wish for youngsters to enjoy, to achieve those they are moving in wrong path which they are easily get influenced by movies how to rob!