Galileo, the Genome and the Survival of Christian Dogma

Thailand
August 17, 2011 11:28pm CST
In the time that Galileo lived he represented a serious threat to the dogma of the Roman Catholic Church. The church at the time considered itself to be the ultimate arbiter of reality and incapable of error. Galileo's findings echoed the work of Nicolas Copernicus and flew directly in the face of the infallibility of the Church. The Church maintained that the earth was the center of creation and the contradiction of this represented a direct challenge. Today's conservative Christians are facing what is a similar challenge. The facts support an evolutionary view of human development which directly contradicts the teachings of the church that the Bible is literal truth and what it presents is not subject to contradiction by facts. The controversy swirls around Genesis and the myth it presents concerning the evolution of the human species. More specifically the facts contradict the idea of the sacred couple, Adam and Eve. The study of the human genome points to the impossibility of the story of Adam and Eve having any basis in fact. Mainstream Christianity at this point has pretty much accepted that the Genesis story is an allegory that teaches a moral lesson but is not a literal history. The fundamentalist Christians absolutely refuse to accept the point of view. They consider the Bible to be infallible and not subject to interpretation. When you step back and look at it this really represents a more fundamental threat to Christian mythology then it seems to on the surface. It's the story of Adam and Eve is a myth it rocks basic foundation of Christianity. Central to the story is the idea of original sin. If the idea of original sin is removed from the story rest of the story starts to fall apart. The whole idea of Christianity revolves around the fact that Jesus died to absolve humanity from its sin. If the whole concept of original sin falls out of the story then there is no need for a redeemer and no need for salvation. Do you think Christianity can survive this Galileo moment or is this in fact the killing blow to Christian mythology?
4 responses
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
21 Aug 11
I see things different! The precise and detailed blueprint in the DNA and the gene prove to me creation much more that evolution.
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• Thailand
21 Aug 11
1hopefulman I strongly recommend you visit the Biologos Forum. http://biologos.org/ It could be a life changing trip for you in that it represents a sincere effort to bring Christian mythology inline with our current understanding of how the world works.
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
8 Sep 11
I have a bit more time now that the busy summer has passed. Is there any particular article that I should read?
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
21 Aug 11
I personally view the Catholic Church and Christianity as opposites. If the Catholic Church is still here then why would Christianity disappear?
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@urbandekay (18278)
18 Aug 11
"Central to the story is the idea of original sin." You claim, I deny, the rest of your argument fails all the best urban
• Thailand
18 Aug 11
If the theme of Christianity is something other than sin and redemption what is it? The rest of the argument stands on fact.
@urbandekay (18278)
18 Aug 11
Your argument hinges around the concept not of sin but of original sin, which you claim is a necessary concept for the integrity of Christianity. Since sin is but original sin is not central to Christianity (Ask yourself if Jesus mentions original sin?) your argument is invalid all the best urban
• Thailand
18 Aug 11
The story that I am discussing is the conservative Christian version that holds that sin entered the world through Adam and Eve and that the only one born without sin was Jesus. For the conservative Christian this is the heart of the message. The moderate or middle of the road Christian accepts that to one degree or another a part of the Bible is allegory and should not be taken to be literal. It is the conservative Christians who have their beliefs threatened by this Galileo moment, not the more enlightened who realize that their beliefs need to conform to reality rather than trying to shape reality to conform to their beliefs.
@urbandekay (18278)
19 Aug 11
So Chiang... first you claim that Jesus may be little more than a myth "The OT has much of myth shaped by political expediency but a look at the NT does require a different view. There is too much of the NT that fits snuggly into the hero myth as elucidated by Joseph Campbell in The Hero with a Thousand Faces for it to be entirely without mythic underpinnings. I agree that it is philosophically profound but the question remains as to how much of it is historical fact and how much of it is mythical." Now you claim he went to India? Hmmm, can a myth travel? Me thinks the lady doth protest too much! all the best urban
• Thailand
19 Aug 11
You do need to read a bit more carefully. I did not claim that Jesus was little more than a myth, I pointed out that the Jesus story contains elements of the classic hero myth. If you read my other post with care you will see that I do not claim he traveled to India, only that there is a story that he did.
@urbandekay (18278)
19 Aug 11
Ok, not claimed, implied or suggested are perhaps better words. Either way me still thinks the lady doth protest too much all the best urban
• Thailand
19 Aug 11
There is a big difference between implying that Jesus is a myth and stating that the story of Jesus has elements of the classic hero myth.
• Canada
19 Aug 11
I don't believe this will be the killing blow. Although fundamentalist religions are slow to adapt, there are many believers who are willing to give a lot of ground in order to hold on to the one most precious belief--the existence of a creator. Because of this willingness, I think religious belief like Christianity will be around for hundreds of years more, at least, no matter what science discovers.
• Thailand
19 Aug 11
This in no way represents a "killing blow" to Christianity but it does call up serious questions about the creation myth. The question remains as to how important the creation myth is to the religion as a whole.