The Dilemna of being an Unwanted Child
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
Philippines
August 20, 2011 8:20am CST
Hello Lotters,
Few days ago I've heard about this caller from a radio that afternoon. I felt sad when I heard her story. This girl is now in the oung adult stage, though she has a grandma that cares and loves her, the mom eventually hates this girl because of a very disturbing revelation. She was the product of a RAPE mating incident.
The Story goes that a bunch of drunk-men drag her mom into being a forced slam piece. although the drunk rapers were apprehended, the rape resulted a life, and She was the result of it. The mom hated and doesn't want to recognize her because it traumatized her mom and always reminded her of that Nightmare.
Yes, It's not literally her fault because the mom doesn't want her because she's the result of the rape. the mom has her own family now, and the distance between the unwanted daughter house and the traumatized mom was just one road away.
You know she is waiting to recognized her as a child, but maybe the mom can never recover and heal from the trauma. the daughter is 19 yrs old. though, in my view she can live her life with out the mom, she's literally free. but there's a hole that needs to be filled in her heart and that is her mom to recognize her.
What would you tell her?
Better yet if you imagined being in her shoes, what are you gonna do?
Personally, the child has gone through a lot and I think it's a nightmare.
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16 responses
@IntrovertShy (2780)
• Marikina, Philippines
22 Aug 11
Oh my gosh. How I wish the Catholic church or the CBCP in the Philippines would here this so that, they would realize how important is the R.H. Bill. You really can't blame the mom because she got rape. It is either the child understand the situation of her mother and move on or her mother would understand the feelings of a child, but it is so hard to the part of a mother? Got rape and traumatize?! You really can't blame her! -- before she become a mother of a child, the mother should not be traumatized and should be healed -- but the word traumatize is very hard to heal in the part of an individual if something bad happened to her. It needs psychologists or it needs expert in field of trauma -- oh yeah, I have seen some clinic here in our area that they help a person that has trauma. Trauma is a high risk than a child looking for a love that would satisfy her. Love comes any form whether from a father, from a grandma, from a friends, from a boyfriend and so on, but trauma -- the word trauma would never be healed unless you hired an expert to cure that person.
If I were the mother, sorry to say -- but I really just can't be the mother of a child. I can't give the love what she's looking for. Its hard to pretend to be a mother. I could give her to another who would substitute as a mother -- that would be a nice thing to do, I guess.
You have to imagine this, if your girlfriend did something wrong to you or your boyfriend did something wrong to you, you would also move on and forget her. You don't want to remember her or you don't remember him again -- the same with the mother.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Hello introvert shy, I don't i agree with you on your last sentence, maybe if they were total stranger she can just forget her and move on but they're blood relative and completely different from the girlfriend and boyfriend scenario. the mother has the power to forget the feeling of the pain and move on to love her child even if she's product of a rape case.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
god will be the judge of that if she doesn't recognize her first daughter. nothing is impossible.well, she has the power because she can get a psychologist if she wanted to.
@IntrovertShy (2780)
• Marikina, Philippines
22 Aug 11
The child is lucky than her real mother. Why? -- because her grandma loves her while a mother was a victim of a rape and would not be healed forever. Just compare the two? It seems the child is lucky than her mother.
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
22 Aug 11
I don't think there is a right or a wrong answer to this one. All the 19yr old wants is to be loved and recognized by her mother... very understandable. On the otherhand the mother was tramatized by the event that led to the 19yr old conception and that like any tramatic event can damage a person for a life time as that is one of the consequences of being a victim of such a horrific act.... that it's hard to forget nor accept what happened.
I feel sorry for both of them. And one would hope the Mom could get past what happened to her and not see her daughter as a product of rape but a positive spin with a child who loves you and you love her unconditionally no matter what. Neither of them had a choice in what happened. I don't think the daughter likes knowing that she was not a product of love but of violence.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Hello Snugglebunnies, If only the mom could have given her to the adoption thing so that he or she would never recognized her parents. maybe you have a point there, she wasn't a product of Love between rape but violence. but unfortunately, it still rules out that the child is innocent despite of the result of the rape. she's making her daughter in too much pain than before. have a nice day.
@IntrovertShy (2780)
• Marikina, Philippines
22 Aug 11
Oh sure. I understand the child, but if I were a daughter and I knew that I was only a product of rape, I would not find her and seek love from her because I understand her situation because were both women. I know how it feels when woman got raped, beside I would be ashame with myself knowing that I am just a product of rape. It does not mean that I would not do anything -- I would find a way to make it prove that I'm worth enough and can stand on my own.
Love is everywhere like what Jackie Chan said, I remember this line from the movie I watched, even though your not with the real family as long as they have care and love you, this feeling is like your living with the real family even though, they're not your real family.
The important is the love within that group even if they're not real family that you can call your own.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
20 Aug 11
That is really sad, I am sorry the mother didn't get help to overcome her bitterness, then her daughter wouldn't be treated this way..
I know of a not so well known celebrity who was conceived when his mother was raped and I don't know if his mother has been healed of her emotional wounds, but he has overcome it when he found Jesus. I would tell the girl his story or just find a video of his life story and hopefully it would give her hope and show her that she is loved a lot, even if her mother doesn't...
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
20 Aug 11
Hello carmela, it's sad because i think the daughter has a big heart or otherwise she would have had rebelled already. that's a great story that you got there, she never really needed her approval or to be recogized if she really wanted peace, there is Jesus and will show her the path. I believe God will do something about it. have a nice day
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@marguicha (222856)
• Chile
21 Aug 11
Being a mother has nothing to do with giving birth. The girl has been an orphan all her life and she has been lucky to have her grandmother. She is not the first case nor will be the last.
If she has lived 19 years without her mother and her biological mother has a family of her own, she has to move on. Personally, I doubt that she wants so much to have her mother recognize her as her child. It sounds as those things the media does to get a simpathetic audience.
She can have no hole in her heart: her grandma filled it. If I were her I´d forget the whole story, except if someone (the radio for instance) is paying me to tell it.Why would anyone want to be recgnized by someone who hates her? I´d try to run from the one who hates me.
@marguicha (222856)
• Chile
22 Aug 11
It is diffrent I suppose in each country and culture. In my country there are countless children without one or both parents for different reasons and they are not discriminated. A couple of generations ago, there was a great difference between children that were born of marrried couples and children born out of wedlock. They did not have the samee rights under the law and could not inherit the same amount as their half brothers. Now all that is changed and noone cares.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Hello marguicha, I am not sure if she can listen to that, it seems that she's young enough still to realize how hard it is not having a mom. we can't dictate as to what and how she feels if she's empty, probably bcause she see this from her classmates who has a mom and dad. and i think there is also a degree of discrimination about her not being recognized by her own mother. have a nice day
@starsailover (7829)
• Mexico
22 Aug 11
Hi Letran Knight: That's a really sad story but I can't judge the mom. Maybe she never recovered from such a trauma. I would just listen to the daughter and I would say, you can go up and overcome this terrible situation. If you believe in God you should know that God loves you and he is the owner of your life. If not, try to find the love in the things you do and the persons around you that cares for you and of course you need to forgive your mom for not having time for you and the person who rape your mom. It's a difficult way for your self acceptance but if you want you can heal yourself. I will pray for her.
ALVARO
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Hello Starsailover, She has a choice if she wanted to, the past is in the past. no one can take that away though. it's hard to believe that she can put up not considering this poor girl as her daughter. she's not entirely a good mom and god knows that. have a nice day
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
21 Aug 11
If this is an example of picking sides, I doubt I could pick anyone. I cannot blame the mother since she herself is a victim and her child is always an unwilling reminder of her past experience. Neither can I blame the daughter for longing for acceptance and love. I guess nothing can be done anyway since both parties aren't really talking to each other.
I think the girl should find someone who will accept her for what and who she is and move on from there. she cannot be always the begging party and trying to make excuses for her mother. She ahs her own life to live. Perhaps the only thing is that she and her mother can reconcile and talk some time in the future.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Hello Jeanne, The daughter tries to talk to her and the mom doesn't think she exist. you're right she can find some one who can love her better and her grandmother has loved her the best. if the mother wont' reconcile then it's her problem and her loss and not the daughter. have a nice day
@tess_quinain (1149)
• Philippines
21 Aug 11
That's too sad. I know how she feels. I lost my parents at a very young age. My aunt came to sustain my needs but my life there wasn't easy. It is totally different to be with the real family. I also long for a perfect family but i know it is impossible. So, i guess the best way for her to do is to move on with her life and find ways to make her happy and be contented. And most importantly is to pray. Praying to God that someday her mom would realize that she isn't a mistake and she doesn't have a fault. Hope she'll make it.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
21 Aug 11
Hello tess, But at least you still have a family and that's all that counts, am sure your parents would have want you to be happy. but her scenario is a lot worse, mom is alive but has killed her in her thoughts.yeah, she can do that if she really wanted to move on and be happy with her life. because its not her fault and probably she has the freedom to be on her own. have a nice day
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
21 Aug 11
It’s an unhappy situation. I would tell this girl the truth about her birth and why her mother feels the way she does so that she can at least understand why her mother is keeping a distance from her. It may requre a professional to assist her in dealing with this. I would also encourage her to initiate contact with her mum perhaps by letter at first. She may be rejected but at least she would have tried and not live the rest of her life wondering.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Hello paula, No, it's not. maybe it would have been decent if she had given for adoption instead of giving her this kind of problem into her life. they live near each other so i don't think a letter would suffice. i think she tried before but unfortunately, she was still hated and rejected. have a nice day
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@bird123 (10643)
• United States
27 Aug 11
If I was the daughter, I would recognize that it has nothing to do with her. Mom has issues. I would no longer make it about myself. I would make it about mom. I would give mom extra doses of unconditional love at every opportunity, Expect and ask for nothing in return. Unconditional love is a powerful force. It is very hard to turn away. If the daughter can give this unconditional love, mom might just be drawn to it at a point of hardship in her life. Mom might discover how valuable a loving daughter can be regardless of how the daughter came to be. Extra Extra important. The daughter's love must be Unconditional to mom. Anything else will never cure the problem. Patience for people sometimes heal slowly.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
20 Aug 11
dear LK,
The daughter needs a mother, and here's the mother who was never able to moved one from such trauma.
I am not a psychologist , but trauma is a hard thing to battle with.
It needs acceptance from the concern, and this is the problem with the mother- she still cannot accept what happened to her.
It gives her fear, hate and make her life miserable.
Now, with the daughter, she has to understand everything.
She has to be thankful that she's fine and her grandma stands as her loving mother.
They need to have a heart to hear talk - a mentor and mediator - good therapy for both - that's what they need.
have a great weekend dear brother
sis,
jaiho®
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
20 Aug 11
Hello sister-Jai, unforunately this won't be happening very soon. but you're idea would have worked if there are other media members who intervene together with a psychologist then that would hve worked a theraphy sounds fine but am no sure if it's gonna work that much. have anice day and thank you
@eurekafemme (5877)
• Philippines
20 Aug 11
Being a mom myself, it is heartbreaking to hear stories like this. But this is so real, Knight and, that is the saddest part of it.
If I were this child, I will never give up on my mother. I will keep hoping, wishing and praying that she will learn to love me, if not sooner then, maybe, later... I will not stop loving her either...Maybe, one day my love for my mother will overcome the hatred she feels towards me and the reason why I was born...
I admire this girl's patience.And only a heart of stone will never acknowledge such patience and love. Her mother is still very much a part of her, I know, there is something gentle feeling she is trying to hide from her daughter. But if she can learn to forget and forgive, they will both have a happy ending...
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
20 Aug 11
Hello Eurekafemme, It is heartbreaking to see this woman being hypocrite, she has another daughter and it's not her fault, she will get her karma in the end. If this would have happened to me, I wish her good life and love but i'd rather move on. my life would be too short for waiting for her to recognized me. there are other people that loves me. but of course, we don't know that because I am with a complete family.
@mspitot (3824)
• Philippines
13 Sep 11
That is so difficult...If I were in her position, I would talk to my mother and would tell her that I didn't wish to be born so we are both victims here. Because she decided to have me born, I have the right to be loved by you. Since you can't give me that love or even just the recognition, I will accept that. I am thankful that I have grandparents who take care of me. I hope you love your children so much. I hope you give them the love and care they need as your children, which you never gave me. When time comes that I'm gonna have my own child, I'll make sure to love him so much cause I know how sad it feels to be disowned by my own mother, I know how it feels to live without a mother. I'm going to accept him no matter what happens cause his a gift, he didn't choose me to be born and to be my child, it is God's plan. I know someday I'm gonna find someone who will love me for who I am, no matter how tough my life has been, I know I'm gonna find the love and care that I should have given me. Remember mother, I never wanted you to be raped and abused. I am a product of that nightmare but I never wished to be born cause you never loved me because of that nightmare, it ruined you and my life.
@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
20 Aug 11
The absence of a parent cannot be replaced by anybody at all. I was orphaned at the age of 13. Aunts and uncles came to comfort me and tried to be my parents but I just couldn't fill the emptiness in me. I've lived with them for 13 years and it's difficult to forget them this girl however never experienced having one and the longing to have one is much stronger.
No words can comfort her at all but I wish the mother would someday find in her heart to acknowledge her own daughter!
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
21 Aug 11
Hello toni, but there are those who have move on even though they never knew their parents, can always start a new family and besides we have one life to live. she can live her life free for all I know but if she is going wait and pray, that's going to wait a long time and it may not come. ihope that both of them would reconcile but what's to reconcile for, she didn't do anything wrong
@sjvg1976 (41281)
• Delhi, India
21 Aug 11
Hello LK,
Thats really sad.The situation is tough for both mother & daughter.I think now daughter if knows it then she should try to lead her life as her own and should forget her mom she should accept it that her mom is not going to accept her.
But i know its really tough for her to do it but this is the real fact.Mother for children means a lot i can say this because i lost my mother at the age of 4 years but remembers her whenever i see someone's mother caring for her child.
As far as mom is concerned its normal behavior i would have done the exact thing what she is doing but she should also understand it that what is the crime of this girl?.Of course she is the result of rape but she is her daughter at the end.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
21 Aug 11
Hello sjvg, actually she has the freedom to do what ever she wanted to do but i guess there is a feeling of akwardness and sadness knowiing her life is incomplete with out her mom recognizing her. SHE HAD NO CRIME and it's not her fault that she was born as the result of that RAPE. the mom is immature and demented fool. thanks and have a nice day
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
25 Aug 11
The lady did very well to give birth to her daughter. I think that some attack victims that get pregnant have an abortion. It was lovely that the lady's mom brought that little girl up. It is horrible that the girl is so very much unwanted by her mother. However due to being attacked it is understandable that she feels trauma if she sees her daughter. Maybe the lady should have adopted her baby daughter but time can not be turned back. If I was the grandmother I would try to set up a happy future for my 19 year old grand daughter. It might be better if she goes to live in a different area like goes off to university for example.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
25 Aug 11
i guess it's unfair for the child to be neglected and not being accepted by the mother. she has nothing to do or should not be blamed for what happened to her mom. she was just the product of it. with the girl, she should be thankful enough to her mom that she was still born. not all products of rape were born, and even of not rape.