Admitting when you are wrong..
By lilybug
@lilybug (21107)
United States
August 21, 2011 12:21pm CST
I was mad the other day at work about my schedule. I knew that getting rid my boss getting rid of the guy that no one liked working with was going to change my hours a little bit, but I will admit I was really pissed off when I saw how much it had changed. My boss and I had talked about my schedule before, so that just made me more irritated about it. He knew I was mad. I don't know if he heard me talking to someone about it or if they told him how mad I was. Anyway, he pulled me aside to talk to me about why I was so mad at him. He had a few good points and I had a few good points, but HE ended up getting mad at ME and stormed away. Later we talked a little more about it I guess after we BOTH calmed down a little bit. We are ok now like we always are after an argument, but this time it seems different. I know that I was wrong to get upset about it before actually talking to him. I think this is the first time I really feel like I should apologize to him. It has been a few days since I worked with him last. I work with him tomorrow. I kinda think I should apologize to him then.
Do you apologize when you know you are wrong about something? How long is too long to wait to apologize?
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21 responses
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
21 Aug 11
Hi Lily!
There is nothing wrong with admitting when we are wrong. We actually learn from our mistakes. I think you should speak to him in private and explain that you feel it was wrong to be upset without speaking to him first. But do explain about how your and he both had initial agreements about your hours. Inform him that you understand that with the departing of the other employee you understand there are to be changes but that you would have liked to be told the changes also prior to the way you did find out.
I hope all goes well and do speak to him so that there are no hidden feelings.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
28 Aug 11
I probably shouldn't admit this but the truth is, I tend to freeze people out when
I'm angry with them and I almost never am the first to apologize regardless of who's at fault. Usually, the other person can't take the cold shoulder and they ignitiate the apology.
I can't remember ever having a serious argument with a boss. But I've pretty much been my own boss for so many years that I might just not recall such an argumeent.
I've heard that the person who apologizes first is the bigger person and often feels good afterwards. Well, I can honestly say that the one time I clearly recall apologizing first, I felt lousy and I gave the other person the upper hand in what turned into an ongoing riff. So, even though I think I'm definitely too hard headed and inflexible, I'm not likely to change. lol
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@lilybug (21107)
• United States
29 Aug 11
Oh, it usually starts out with me ignoring him. Once I have ignored him for awhile he pulls me aside to talk to him because he knows if I am totally ignoring him then I am pretty pissed at him over something and he does not like it when I refuse to talk to him. He knows by now that I will go off on him if he does not give me sufficient time to cool off.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
22 Aug 11
In my opinion it's never too late to apologize or to admit we're wrong. Hopefully we all know none of us are perfect so an apology should be accepted whether it takes ten minutes or ten years to come! Of course, I'd say "the sooner the better" so I'd try to take the next convenient opportunity to do so.
Good luck! I'm glad you have the kind of boss you can even have a mutually respectful conversation with! I'm still stinging from one with whom that was impossible.
Annie
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@DaddyOfTheRose (2934)
• United States
22 Aug 11
Admitting when I'm wrong doesn't always come easily to me. This, I believe, traces back to the exchange between myself and my father as a child. Admission of error didn't help. Generally speaking, it seems to me that someone who admits error should get at least some credit for taking the first step. If not, it seems they will lose any motivation towards reconciliation.
As I have grown, however, I have turned to my children and tried to ponder this. I have come to the opinion that I will try being an easy person to apologize to.. and, in return, being quick to admit where I've erred. It is my hope, by displaying the behavior I'd like them to learn, they will come to accept it more easily.
I have also learned that it can sometimes be helpful to apologize and admit wrongdoing even if I'm not fully convinced I'm in the wrong. In particular, I find this a good idea when dealing with people more on my level instead of the unequal balance of power between parent and child. For example, my wife, my friends, or patients who come into our office for pictures.
Much as the situation appears to be on the road, it is not my job to teach people were they are wrong. I don't need, for example, to educate someone on proper road etiquette or blare my horn at someone who cuts me off. I don't need to slow down to show a tailgater than they are being rude. I let them do as they wish to do; the world can sort out the ethics and practicality of the situation.
When speaking to my daughter, I once expressed to her that she can argue with daddy all she likes; but one cannot argue.. for example.. with gravity. If you are not careful playing, a slip becomes a fall because gravity just doesn't care if you "didn't mean" this or that to happen.
The same things happens with the world at large. A tailgater or speeder is rude to me, yes, but they are also taking onto themselves additional risks. By and large, they might argue with me about right and wrong and being free to drive how they wish but if they plow their car under a tractor-trailer there is no argument to be done at that point.
This also holds for people who do wrong by me. I don't need to teach them the error of their ways. If they are wrong in doing this thing or that thing, they will probably continue their behavior. The continuation of their inability to learn will .. or will not .. have consequences without my input at all. Let the stupid, if you will permit, be stupid.
For example, one of my patients was talking about global warming being a myth. He maintained that ice melts in one point and grows in another. I explained, the respective balance between rates of ice forming and ice melting can be measured from satellites in space. There is no guesswork involved. But he persisted in his illogical position and I let the matter go with a grunt or minor insinuation that he might have said something worth considering.
After all, these are patients... I have no point or purpose in educating them in matters such as this. A person who uses flawed logic in one place likely uses flawed logic in other places. You can make an excellent argument by mathematical engineering analysis of design, tensile strength, and load to justify one style of bridge building. But, if you have used a good-sounding but ill-reasoned argument; the bridge will collapse nonetheless. There is no arguing with gravity, as it were.
To that end, someone who engages in bad thinking so that they see what they wish to see instead of deducing what really is; the continuation of this pattern will not be without consequences eventually. I do not need to be their teacher and, in fact, there is no return on investment for any effort I spend in that area.
So, I can apologize as if I believe I'm wrong even when I don't believe this is the case because in most cases.. it just really doesn't matter. As far as I can tell, the ability to do so eliminates needless complications in my life and is its own reward if you will.
Lilybug, I hope all is well with you.
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@finlander60 (1804)
• United States
22 Aug 11
After reading your response I have one thing to comment on. In simple terms, to paraphrase what you said, there are natural consequences to every action. For example: If you do (THIS) the natural consequences will be (THAT). If you put your hand on a very hot stove burner the natural consequences would be you get a burned hand.
@DaddyOfTheRose (2934)
• United States
22 Aug 11
I wouldn't expect either person to be totally wrong. Such as things are, however, it might be prudent to smooth things over.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Aug 11
If you feel that you should apologise then do so immediately. Do not let things fester. It may seem that it is all right between you on the surface but deep down he may be expecting you to apologise. When you do you may well find that he will also offer an apology and believe me, he will admire you for doing it first. The one that was giving you trouble is gone and that must be a big relief. Come to a compromise with him and you both will feel good. Let us know what happens please?
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
22 Aug 11
That will be great. You will feel so much better about yourself afterwards and he will have more respect for you too.
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@rusty2rusty (6763)
• Defiance, Ohio
21 Aug 11
Personally, I would not apologize for getting upset. Espically if you already talked about your schedule before. If he changed things up compared to what you both discussed with telling you first hand. I think you have every right to be upset. Whether you can change it or fix it is another story but you have every right to be upset.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
21 Aug 11
Temper Temper!! LOL
I rarely find myself in a position to require apologizing. I'm more the type that will complain about things in private instead of out loud or to a particular person. Then after awhile of complaining to myself.. I just deal. Things always have a way of working themselves out.
Earlier this summer I had a cut in hours too. All the college kids were coming back, and they were adamant about getting their usual number of summer hours.. some of them even brought me into it. They said I was too new to get the hours and they should take the hours from me because they'd worked there for 2 years. I was upset that these girls just expected to be able to take hours from me .. but I didn't say anything about it. I didn't get a huge cut in hours, I lost maybe 5 hours a week.. some weeks it was a bit more. But instead of complaining about it I just welcomed the little break which gave me more time to do other summer activities like take the kids to the pool and stuff.
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@lilybug (21107)
• United States
22 Aug 11
My hours didn't get cut. I still have the same number. He just tossed them all over the place.
The real kicker here is that at the end of the second conversation he gave me permission (again) to yell at him whenever I want as long as I drag him into the cooler to yell at him. He says I can yell at him, scream at him, call him a mother f***er if I want. In Private! We always end up talking it out later. I just usually don't apologize.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
25 Aug 11
few days ago, my wife and i had an argument. actually, it was a house on fire that we were yelling at each other. the reason, i interfered while she was talking which she hates a lot. she really doesn't want anybody to talk while she is mad and is talking. anyway, i didn't really said i am sorry, but with a kiss when everything calmed down makes her feel that i am apologizing.
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@minomarimat (372)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Of course I apologize, and it's imperative that saying sorry should follow soon after the mistake that you did. But there are also some times when I just couldn't build up the courage to admit my mistake, and take a few days before saying sorry to the person I've wronged.
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@jdex_143 (1093)
• Philippines
24 Aug 11
Hmmmm... That's really a bad situation you had there. Well, good thing that you and your boss are now okay with each other.
When I get to argue with someone and later I realize that it was my fault, I would really apologize to him/her. Because when I am mad, I can't help but say bad things which is not good. So, the proper way to resolve the argument is to ask for an apology to the one you argued with..
I hope you can get along well with your boss..
@fajarsetiawan (303)
• Indonesia
24 Aug 11
I was easily mad. but easy to anger subsided as well. after the my anger has subsided and I felt wrong, I immediately apologized. usually a few hours after I realize that I made a mistake. I do not want to delay the apologizing because I kept thinking about my mistakes. till can not sleep.
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@AmbiePam (93738)
• United States
23 Aug 11
I don't think there is any time limit on apologies. But I cannot remember ever getting angry with my boss, and letting my boss know that. I mean thinking back to the jobs I had, if they had known I was angry, that would only have been bad for me. They held all the power, not me.
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@maidangela7349 (1191)
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22 Aug 11
I have to admit that I was wrong once. I thought I had made a mistake and then later I found I had not.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
That depends on the situation.
If the situation requires an apology in that instant- I do.
Like, I realized it was really my fault, I do asks for an apology.
But,if the situation looks like it's not my fault or everything is not my fault- it takes me sometime to cool down and compose myself and I will surely talk with the person and settle the matter.
have a good day
jaiho®
@thetis74 (1525)
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22 Aug 11
Knowing and feeling how wrong we are always leave a feeling of guilt and the only remedy to lighten the burden is to apologize. I am sure that you will feel better once you have done it. It is always a good thing to admit one's mistake. Do apologize and I am sure that your boss will be glad that you do. He will surely understand you, that is one purpose of being a manager-they get to handle a lot of people and they are always ready for anything the way I see it. Good luck. I am sure things will be better for both of you.
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@silver_sharkbait (158)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
I do apologize immediately after i do something to others. Its kind of bothering me if i don't apologize and I might not sleep well.
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