A Vegan and A Non Vegan go to dinner.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
United States
August 21, 2011 12:54pm CST
I know it sounds like a opening of a joke but I am wondering would a true Vegan actually have dinner with a non vegan? I mean without being grossed out by what the non vegan is eating? I always assume no. So once I find out a person is a Vegan , I don't plan to eat in front of them, out of respect. So I thought I would ask Vegans, would you eat with a non Vegan and not be grossed out?
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@erez98 (166)
• Israel
21 Aug 11
i am a vegan and, unfortunately, i need to eat with non vegans most of the time. being in the minority, i have no other choice. i am trying not to look at their plates.
sometimes i like to joke with them during the meal and ask them "which animal are you eating?"
i, personaly , don't feel ofended and can eat in front non vegans because i know that it is the way of our world.... i don't accept that but i know i can't change it...
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
21 Aug 11
See Asking the name of thr meat on my plate would pi$$ me off that I would just take my plate and walk away. I would see it as you telling me you want me to starve because I will not be a vegan because that would mean not eating anything. I don't eat vegetables and I love dairy and beef so if you take that away , I wouldn't eat anything . so that's another reason I don't eat in front of a vegan.That way they don't disrespect me either.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
Thanks Sid556 ! It is out of respect that I wouldn't eat in front of a Vegan.And I would expect the same respect , If I didn't get it then the friendship would end
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
21 Aug 11
I am curious, erez, as a vegan, does the smell get to you sometimes? If you read what I wrote, I can't stand the smell of pork, it sometimes makes me sick and I wonder if you experience this as well???
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
21 Aug 11
That's kind of you to not order non-vegan out of respect for your vegan friend..I am not a vegan, but I don't eat unclean foods, foods that the Creator has deemed not suitable for human consumption. My husband on the other hand, still gets pizza with everything on it and since I stopped eating pork, I have to sometimes hold my breath, because the smell is nauseating. I also hate it when he has me cook pork for him, the feel of this meat is so different from beef and fish, it does gross me out..Fortunately it has been a long time since I had to cook it, but he still bring home the deluxe pizza..
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
21 Aug 11
If pizza makes you sick, we Definitely can not have a meal together. I am not suppose to eat pork but... I love pepperoni pizza. I'm going to hell but I wil be well fed! If my guy was to eat something I couldn't stand, I would be eating out alone that night. So when he came in , I would be going out.So he will know the best way to make me leave is to have something I hate the smell of, like black eye peas and too much chili pepper.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
21 Aug 11
No, not pizza, I love pizza, both cheese and vegetarian pizza, it's the pork that makes me sick. And I didn't see you were going to hell, but I do believe wherever you go, you will get there sooner by not eating right..
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
21 Aug 11
sara, you don't know what you are saying..I watched my sister suffer for years being a diabetic, it isn't fun. And there is a mylotter here who can tell you the nightmare of almost dying from eating something she shouldn't..
The guidelines that are given for our diet is not a commandment, but a manual on how to live a long and healthy life. Whoever told you that was wrong because I never read we go to hell by eating pork...
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@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
21 Aug 11
I am a vegan person and I have had to eat in front of meat eaters at a large table at work. Although for a meal for two I wouldn't want to eat dinner with a meat eater. What they eat would make me feel sick I am sure. I usually do self catering and rarely eat out due to not many places to eat being 100% vegan. I know a vegetarian and vegan restaurant and I ate there once with some vegetarians.
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@allknowing (136100)
• India
20 Sep 11
This cannot be avoided specially at parties and functions where we group together as friends or family and not by the categories that you have specified. I have eaten with someone who is a pure vegetarian and she has never felt uncomfortable seeing me hog away. In fact she would even peep into my plate and would express her curiosity but I have never seen her making those 'ugh' expressions!
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
20 Sep 11
That is fantastic! I'm glad she wasn't grossed out by what you were eating!
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
20 Sep 11
Let me guess, their spouse is a staunch vegetarian and the only time he/she can have meat is when at the office.
@allknowing (136100)
• India
20 Sep 11
Or perhaps looking at the way I was eating she would be in two minds to switch over? There was colleague of mine who was veg at home but not when we were in the office canteen!
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@rajeev075 (1961)
• India
21 Aug 11
Probably this things happen always so people should need to understand the felling of other and a nonvegan should asked a vegan if he had no problem if i eat meat in fron of you. It just not only give a ways of respect the person but you too.
also moral is that you should avoid these things.
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@minomarimat (372)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Going out for dinner doesn't always mean that the two persons should have the same interests, right? Sometimes, it's the differences in preferences that make the relationship more interesting. As a non-vegan, it's my date's choice if she would prefer to eat only vegetables. There's always a way to satisfy each other's likes, right?
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
No, not always. If a person finds your meal gross then why eat with them?
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
Sorry I am no vegan but there are combinations of food people love that turn my stomach. I'm a very picky eater.
@minomarimat (372)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
It's not "finding the meal of the other person" as gross. I think this is inappropriate to describe the matter. It's just differences of preference, but not a "gross" thing to think of.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
29 Aug 11
We are non-vegans....but there are lots of vegetarians in India. Most of them are used to being around people who eat meat and have no problems as long as they are not forced to eat meat. But we also have a few who are very conservative and will not even have vegan food if it is served in a non-veg home or restaurant.
Usually, we offer to have vegan food if the other person is a vegetarian. Sometimes, they tell us it's okay and we may have non-veg food and we do not need to take the trouble for their sake. In such situations we might order meat for our younger son if he insists but we will not eat it out of respect for our friends.
When my husband's business partner was newly married, we went out for dinner once. Though the partner does have non-vegetarian food when he is outside the home, we knew his wife is a vegetarian and so we didn't plan to have non-vegetarian food that day. But she chose to sit at a different table along with her husband since we eat meat!
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
29 Aug 11
This is why I wouldn't eat near a vegan. Once I know a person is a vegan, it means to me No Eating with you or while you are in the same room!
@GreenMoo (11834)
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22 Aug 11
I don't eat fish, but I wouldn't expect someone not to enjoy eating fish just because they were sitting with me. In the same way, I wouldn't expect a vegan dinner partner to be offended at my choice of meal.
At the same time, if a potential dinner partner really had a strong objection to certain foods then I would hope they would tell me so that i could take their feelings into consideration.
We often have vegan or vegetarian guests, and I'll generally cook everyone a vegan or vegetarian meal then. But that's to make my life as cook easier!
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
I'm a picky eater . There are so many things I would never eat and so many combinations that turn my stomach.And I like things plain and my meat well done so I usually eat Before and just hang out.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
23 Aug 11
I know I shouldn't be in this discussion, because I am not a vegan, but I thought I would tell you about my son.
He is not vegan, but the opposite! I've heard stories about vegans not wanting their utensils touch any meat-part. My son does not want his utensils touching any vegetable part. Just last night he had to change his fork a couple of times just because it touched part of the vegetables I was eating.
Sorry, off topic again.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
23 Aug 11
Don't be . I'm exactly the same. When I have Salisbury Steak and Mac and Cheese,I use two forks , one for the steak and one for the mac and cheese.
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
22 Aug 11
Hi behen
That is exactly our problem - me loves non-veg andyour bahu just goes with fish... she is otherwise a vegan. At start, as I was aware, I asked her about this and she said that she doesnt have a problem as I know how to cook and also she would not mind eating out with me as long as I dont ask her to eat chicken or mutton etc.
I always take care that when we are out together for dinner - we order dishes that we both would enjoy together... After all dining out together for us is only on special occasions and dont want us eating separate dishes unable to look eye to eye :)
Otherwise when at home, and I need to have the non veg(mostly I have limited myself to fish as we both have that)... but other days, I am allowed to use the kitchen - for both cooking and also the cleaning up
I dont force anything upon her.
Now for others, well, yes, I am open and tell the other person dining out about my preferences. If s/he has any problems, we go for the vegan only or dishes that we all can enjoy.
I respect you for your views here... That is really great of my behen
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
Hi Bhai! I would never want to gross out a vegan by having a steak right in front of them. and I wouldn't want to eat vegan either.I couldn't. It is good when there is a happy medium. It seems like you two found it. i'm so happy for you.
@veganbliss (3895)
• Adelaide, Australia
21 Aug 11
I've been vegan for over ten years now. Went 100% raw a couple of weeks ago! It's fantastic! Anyway, I'm a big fan of the vegan organic eating out scene down here, but I do my homework on the restaurant / eatery before I eat there. The menu must be 100% vegan - I prefer 100% organic too, but it's not a real big deal if it's not. The staff must also be vegan & the owners & facility must be vegan too. There are some good places like this here (http://blissorganiccafe.com.au/). I'd prefer to take people here & they can always go & have a meat pie afterwards or something if they still feel that they really need it - most don't!
I have gone to dinner with non-vegans, like for very small work functions once a year & it's not a problem! I eat what I'm eating & they are also there to eat. I can understand how some or even most vegans could feel grossed out, but they should feel more privileged to be in your good company & behave appropriately in the spirit of the occasion & that should come first. They should prepare themselves for the occasion & rise above the details. It will also make them better ambassadors for "the cause" rather than behaving inappropriately & causing unnecessary stress in what is probably an already stressful situation for many.
I think it's nice that you don't eat in front of them, but maybe unnecessarily polite, which can only add to a more stressful situation in what is supposed to be a relaxing time so we can all digest everything! The onus should always be on vegans to do the right thing.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
Woo! Potato chips are kosher for you?How About French Fries? Perfect! Do you like sports? If so, we could go where we Both could eat, A sports Bar!
In the beginning of Gone With The Wind, there is a BBQ and Scarlet is changing and once she is dresses Mammy says she must eat.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
If you took me to a vegan restaurant , I wouldn't eat. I would come to spend time with you , not eat. I would do a Miss Scarlet.Did you see Gone With The Wind? In the film Scarlet O Hara eats Before going down to the BBQ because ladies eat like a bird in public. Being a picky eater so I'm so used to it.If there isn't a hamburger or fires or a pizza. and I mean a pepperoni pizza,I won't find anything that I like to eat so I go to McDonald's before hand.
I usually don't go to sit down dinners. I prefer a mingle type where no one notices that I am not eating! I think it is nice you believe it is up to the Vegan to adjust. I guess with us we should eat first , meet after!
@veganbliss (3895)
• Adelaide, Australia
22 Aug 11
I haven't actually seen all of that film & don't recall the part you mentioned, but I'll take your word for it.
Yes, like you, I believe our culture places far too much emphasis on food & eating. I also like those get-togethers where you walk around with a paper plate in your hand & just pick out what you like to eat.
Also like you, I eat beforehand - maybe a GD Coconut or something & just eat potato chips or something when I get to the place! If I'm forced to eat food that I think is cross-contaminated, I won't touch it!
All the Best.
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@starrose_ara (784)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
I use to dine with my vegan friends even if i am not a vegan myself. I guess its a matter of respecting them for what their preference are. I quite enjoy the once a week venture into the restaurant where vegans frequent although I should say I still love my meat.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
I would go and hang out , but I wouldn't eat. I have done that many of times. I either eat before or after. I'm a very picky eater.
@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
25 Aug 11
I think that would be a good bit for Saturday Night Live. But, if I was a vegan, which I'm not, I would not mind at all. What's the difference. Unless the vegan is grossed out by the smell of real food. In which case I would not go to dinner with them, not because of respect, but because of the fact that I am not going to listen to complaints.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
26 Aug 11
One vegan here said she is grossed out by the smell of meat. So no dinner dates with her!
@mdgarmager (6)
• United States
22 Aug 11
Hi. Good question! If I may weigh in, I am a proud carnivore and occasional omnivore and I have dined with a vegan. The vegan mentioned is one of the kindest, intelligent human beings I have ever had the pleasure of knowing and he didn't seem to mind in the least that I was devouring a rare porterhouse with a parmesan crust directly across from him. I think that if the vegan you are dining with has a superlative character and generous, loving heart, he/she will just be happy to be spending time with you. So, in short, if your vegan acquaintance is a wonderful human being, it shouldn't matter what you are eating while with him/her. And, naturally, if said vegan is of poor character and is only a vegan in order to be better than everyone who isn't, you may have a terrible meal. Thanks for allowing me to share!
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
Thanks. See I eat meat but not rare. If isn't well done I don;t eat it. I'm a picky eater. I know how it is to not eat at a restaurant because they don't have anything I would eat. So the moment I hear a person is a vegan, I automatically think ,we just won't eat together and that's cool. and yes is a person is going to demean me because I eat meat I will just say point blank, why do you want me to starve? you hate me That much you want me to die? Really? and then walk right out of their life.That's what you do with a Food Nazi.
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Aug 11
I took a cource in school with a vegan, and we all ate together. She just brought her own food.
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@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
22 Aug 11
I don't see why they couldn't go to dinner together. I mean if a person like yourself is willing to go as far as not eating in front of them, I assume that is out of respect. So why wouldn't the Vegan person be equally respectful of your beliefs. I guess I am assuming each person to have a certain level of maturity on the matter. Then anything is possible.
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@veejay19 (3589)
• India
22 Aug 11
I really don`t think that there should be any problem as it is a matter of choice by the individuals.In the past i have had food with vegs and non vegs,i still haven`t come across any vegans upto now,and nobody has objected.Yes, some people are fussy and will not dine with somebody whose choice of food is opposite to theirs, but on the whole people are willing to let the matter go by without making any fuss about it.
@Rick1950 (1576)
• Lima, Peru
22 Aug 11
I don't think a vegan would gross out watching a non vegan, tasting a big steak, a hamburger or a chicken. If I were a vegan I would try to be tolerant. How would be if a vegan fall in love with a non vegan? It would be needed two differents menus at home. There will be couples as well?
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Aug 11
Read response number 3! I assume if a non vegan fell for a vegan that both would try to convert the other.and eventually the love would die Or there would be separate meal times And meals.I know I couldn't go vegan . i rather just stop eating! and in a sense if a guy said that I Had to give up meat and cheese, I would ask him why do you hate me? Why do you want me Not to eat?