Learning a new language on your own
By Porcospino
@Porcospino (31366)
Denmark
August 25, 2011 10:46am CST
At the moment I am trying to learn Russian. I have thought about taking some classes, but it is quite expensive and I can't afford it at the moment, so I have decided to study on my own instead. I have downloaded a program that helps learn new words and I listen to Russian radio stations and watch Russian videos on YouTube. Some of the Russian videos have subtitles in English and that it very useful for me when I want to learn new sentences. I am still a beginner, but I hope to improve my Russian little by little.
Have you ever learned a new language on your own? Which language? And which methods did you use? Did you find it hard to study on your own instead of taking a class?
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29 responses
@umabharti (3972)
• India
25 Aug 11
i appreciate ur will to learn a new language.Your methods of learning are good i hope u learn as early as possible and talk russian language.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
28 Aug 11
I am happy to hear that you share my interest in the Russian language, maybe we can help eachother learn the language I am still a beginner, but I try to learn some new words every day. I have downloaded a programme created by a Danish high school. When I use it, I read a word and listen to the pronounciation and then I have to pick the right translation from a list of Danish words. I will continue to use that programme and I plan on combining it with some of the ideas that I got from the this discossion.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
26 Aug 11
Thanks for your support. I hope that I will manage to learn Russian on my own. The Russian alphabet is different from the alphabet that I am used to, and that is a challenge. I am happy that I have access to internet, that makes it a lot easier as I am able to listen to the Russian language and learn the pronounciation that way. I have found a great picture dictionary where I am able to read the words in Russian and listen to the pronounciation at the same time, and I use that a lot.
@umabharti (3972)
• India
27 Aug 11
ii would like to learn russian from u.hope we can talk in that language.I think this will be more easy for learning.When we discuss such things and wrok on that then it will be more interesting.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
27 Aug 11
Hi Porcospino!
Wow, Russian. Isn't that difficult to learn? And it feels like it's hard on the tongue.
I have been learning Japanese for a long, long time! I'm still not fluent. Well, I don't study it full time and it's a really difficult language so there. I only learn by watching Japanese movies and dramas, and animes with subtitles. I sometimes watch a video tutorial and read English-Japanese dictionaries but I can't do it much because I don't have much free time. And I can't enjoy the movies, dramas and anime I watch if I watch it just for the sake of learning the language so at times, I don't learn much because I enjoy it first than learn. But I know a lot of words and a few phrases so I'm not giving up.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
4 Sep 11
Yes, it is hard to focus on learning when you also want to enjoy the movies I think that the Russian language is quite difficult. Some of the words are hard for me to pronounce, but I listen to the words over and over and that helps me get used to the sounds. I also have to learn a new alphabet, so that is a challenge as well.
I have learned some Japanese, but I am still a beginner. I can understand some sentences, but I still haven't learned to speak, read or write. I spent some time at a Danish/Japanese school in Denmark. The Danish students studied Japanese and the Japanese students studied Danish. It was a great place and I sometimes miss my Japanese friends.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
5 Sep 11
I've heard some Russian conversation on movies and I think it is pretty interesting. And as I've said, it feels like it's hard on the tongue, like your tongue would twist any moment. And you know, no offense meant, but whenever I hear someone speaking Russian, it feels like the person is going to curse any moment.
Wow. I envy you. I wish I could spend time in a Japanese/Filipino school if ever we have that here. I really want to learn Nihonggo.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
5 Sep 11
Some of those Russian sounds I just can't pronounce. It sounds easy when I hear the words, but when I have to pronounce them myself they aren't easy at all
It is a pity that you don't have a school like that. I think that the idea behind the school is awesome, because the students are able to help eachother learn their languages and you always have someone to ask if you have a question about a word or something like that. Unfortuneately the Danish/Japanese school no longer exists. The building is still a school, but there are no Japanese students anymore only Danes.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
25 Aug 11
I would like to read some of the Russian classics and learn more about the Russian literature. I am very interested in languages and other cultures and I always like to learn new languages. I hope to visit Russia one day, and I think that it will be very useful to learn some Russian before I leave. I have to learn a new alphabet and I know that it will take a while before I will be able to read Russian, but I hope that I will improve my Russian little by little.
@catamari (127)
• Romania
25 Aug 11
Hi there. I remember when I started to study English. There was a grea feeling. I understand you. I wish to have more free time to study more languages, even Russian. I have some very good russians friends. All of them taught me some good things. I've had a very good help from them in understanding how to study English. Now, look at me, I can speak, read, write without any English dictionary. I like it. I am consious that I make yet many grammar mistakes. I hope in the future to resolve that. How you said before, I like to read English literature or English books. I think that will help me a lot to improve my English. So, to read about literature in a new language could be a very good way to know about it. Good luck with Russian.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
25 Aug 11
Hi catamari!
It is great to hear that your Russian friends helped you. I wish I also had some Russian friends from my country. I don't think that there are that many Russians in my country, but it could be interesting to meet some of them. My mothertongue is Danish and I also make grammar mistakes when I write English. I like to practice my writing in different ways. I often write English emails to my friends from other countries and I like to participate in discussions here on Mylot or on other discussion sites.
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32650)
• Calgary, Alberta
26 Aug 11
The moment you learn Russian for real, I think you shall try listening to some of their music. Russian music is really good. Everything as badass, In different genres of music. try listening to the songs of the Russian singer Yulia Savicheva and Russian bands like Pazzl and Zveri.Good luck on your self thought Russian lessons. I really wish I can learn a 4th foreign language, If I only have time and if only my work dont take the best out of me.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
26 Aug 11
Thanks for the suggestions. I am very interested in listening to the singers that you mentioned, and I found Yulia Savicheva and Zveri, but I couldn't find Pazzl. I like the songs by Yulia Savicheva and Zveri, if you know other Russian singers or bands please let me know. I only know Zemfira and Nepara. I really like Zemfira and I often listen to her songs. I also listen to a Russian radio, they play Russian pop and rock music all the time and it is very helpful for me to listen that radio station while I surf the internet.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
28 Aug 11
Thanks for the links The songs are beautiful! I remember Tatu, their songs used to be very popular in my country, but I didn't know that Lena Katina was a solo artist now. I like the Zemfira's songs, I have found a lot of them on YouTube. So far I only understand a small part of the words, but I guess that will change once I get better at Russian.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32650)
• Calgary, Alberta
27 Aug 11
Zemfira curses on her songs but she is amazing, her style is so unique. anyway this is Pazl.(sorry i mispelled) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_879yfao00 they have a male vocalist too.
you should also try Lena Katina, she used to be a member of the controversial duo tatu but she is an amazing solo artist.
these are her solo efforts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiI5yP5hWEk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Foh-ebrWX4Y
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@Rosa26 (2618)
• United States
26 Aug 11
Good tips to learn a language:
Visit places where they only know that language.
Read magazine in that language.
Buy a dictionary.
Chat in sites that know that language.
Repeit each word at least 14 time.
Talk on the phone with people that only know that language.
Well I hope this can help.
Happy lotter day.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
4 Sep 11
Thanks for the suggestions, it sounds like some useful ways to learn a new language. I think it would be especially useful to visit a place where people only speak the language that I want to learn, because that way I would be "forced" to speak the language all the time and I would get more practice. When I get better at Russian I would like to talk to Russians online, it think that could be a good way to practice. Unfortuneately I don't know any Russian in my local area, but I have access to the internet, so I would be able to find online friends from Russia.
@catamari (127)
• Romania
25 Aug 11
Hello Porcospino. I think nowadays by internet you can learn Russian very easy. You can try to find videos in Russian but with Russian subtitles. Maybe will be more useful. Then you need to find Russian comunities to join there, to listen to them, live. On the internet are now tausands of useful sites where you can start to study a language. Me too I want to know more languages. Unfortunately I have to go my job, and I have no some much time to study. I am free on saturdays to practice. This is the first reason why I look now only to improve my English.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
26 Aug 11
Videos with Russian subtitles sound like a good idea. That way I would be able to compare the pronounciation and the spelling. So far I have watched videos with English subtitles. There is a movie called "Lilja 4-ever", I watched it some years ago and recently I found it on YouTube. I like to watch the same movie more than once, because I understand more words now than I didnt understand in the beginning, and that makes me happy. So far I only understand a small part of the movie without the subtitles, but I hope that will change in the future and that I will be able to understand a lot more.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
28 Aug 11
Right now I translate from Russian to Danish in order to understand the sentences, but you are right, It would be a good idea to use a Russian dictionary with Russian explanations when I get better at Russian. When I learned English I did it the same way. At first I had to translate from English to Danish, because every word was new to me and I wouldn't have been able to understand the English explanations.
Today it is easy for me to understand a dictionary where everything is written in English. I know that it will take a while before I will able to do the same thing in Russian, because I still need to improve my Russian reading skills, but I think that I will get that far one day.
@catamari (127)
• Romania
30 Aug 11
Hi Porcospino. I am glad to hear that. Me too I love to study more languages. Between translations and understanding new words you need to find fast groups with russian people to stay between them, to listen them.Try to listen ordinary people, not teachers. There are a lot of comunities, rooms online. Just look for it. I have some russian friends but I am not interested yet in russian language. We practice English together. Good luck!
@soulist (2985)
• United States
28 Aug 11
I havent really gotten the chance to try harder but I would love to learn Japanese and more french on my own, but sometimes thats hard. I watch anime in Japanese and listen to some Jpop and Jrock stations. i think I would need a class or something like that to help me learn better and know I am saying things right.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
4 Sep 11
I also watch videos and listen to music. I like to watch the same video several times and the more I learn the more I am able to understand. I still think that it would be best to take a class instead of studying on my own, but I can't afford that at the moment so I study on my own instead. I studied French at school, but I haven't used it for about 15 years, so I have forgotten a lot of it. I have also studied Japanese, but I only know the basic words and I can't read or write.
@sukumar794 (5040)
• Thiruvananthapuram, India
26 Aug 11
Learning a new language is all the more interesting...quite a lot of fun in it. People who have a flair for language learning get mastery over several languages in an easy manner.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
29 Aug 11
I also find it interesting to learn a new language. I have learned English, German and French at school and Italian in Italy, and I still like to learn new languages. Before I visit a new country I like to learn a bit of the language so that I am able to travel around independently without too many problems. Have you learned any foreign languages?
@thatgirl13 (7294)
• South Korea
26 Aug 11
Hey good luck with your Russian It is one tough job to learn a language on your own but with time and practise you will get better :)
And yes I have tried and am still learning a language on my own. Like you, I don't have extra cash or the time to enrol in a language class. But I do have a Chinese friend who is helping me with the language when she and me have free time together. It is one tough job but I'm getting better, teeny tiny wee bit that is hehe. Well to be honest, I haven't done any Mandarin for quite sometime now but I have to start practising if I wanna get better.
Anyway try finding a native speaker, that will help you a lot. Good luck
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
26 Aug 11
It is great that your Chinese friend helps you learn the language. A native speaker is a good way to improve your language skills I would like to find a Russian friend from my area, and I just got an idea to something that I could do. There is a local website from my area, it is called "Contact between people" and I think it is possible to find new friends there. I might be able to find some Russians there, I don't know if it will be possible, but I think that it is worth a try.
@thatgirl13 (7294)
• South Korea
27 Aug 11
Yep you should try every possible method you can
I hope you find some native there and get to practise your Russian.
Good luck.
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@enigma13 (372)
• Philippines
25 Aug 11
I'm trying to learn how to speak Japanese on my own. I;m afraid I can't be of much help to you. I did the exact same things as you. I downloaded instructional "learn-on-your-own" ebooks and audio books and I watch Japanese anime or movies online. If I have the means, I would definitely enroll in a class since formal instruction will surely be much more effective. I guess we can improve greatly focus on it and practice speaking it constantly. Good luck. I hope other myLotters can share techniques that we can both use.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
25 Aug 11
I also think that it is more effective to take a class and I would choose that if I had the money, but that is not realistic at the moment, so I study on my own. The program that I have downloaded is pretty good and I combine it with videos. When I watch the same videos again after a while I discover that I am able to understand more and more words and that is a great feeling. I have never tried to study Japanese on my own, but I learned some Japanese when I went to a Danish/Japanese school. I learned some words and I also learned a little hiragana, but I am not very good at it. Good luck with your studies
@fantabulus (4000)
• India
27 Aug 11
Great you are interested to learn new language I also. But it is impossible for me because I am a houselady and India married women so my family is not allowed for this.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
4 Sep 11
In past most women in my country weren't able to study either. Once they got married they gave up their studies and only took care of the housework. Men were able to continue their studies, but women were expected to take of the housework and make sure that the food and everything else was ready when their husbands got back from work. Today the situation in my country is different and women are able to study when they are married.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
25 Aug 11
I don't know that site, but I will check it out, thanks. When I arrived in Estonia I was in the same situation as you. I worked in a home for adults with special needs and when I arrived I didn't speak Estonian, but after some months I was able to understand the basic words and express myself in broken Estonian. I never learned the grammar properly, but at least people were able to understand me How long have you been in England?
@ruinattack (52)
• United Arab Emirates
26 Aug 11
I have tried to learn German and Spanish on my own and I have learnt a few words and sentences. I used to download learning ebooks ( German for dummies, Spanish for dummies....) and also language learning websites. The best method I really benefited from was Michel Thomas's Audio CD's. They are really interesting and you can really learn the language just by listening. You can either buy his CD's through his website or download them from torrent websites.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
4 Sep 11
I haven't heard about Michel Thomas's audio cds, but I will check it out. I like to combine different methods. At the moment I use a programme that I have downloaded from the internet. I have to translate the words from Russian to Danish and it is a pretty good way to learn it. I also use a free picture dictionary that I found online. I have read some of the books "for dummies" but I didn't know that there were books about languages as well.
@MrsHorton1120 (25)
• United States
27 Aug 11
This is something I really want to try and if I can pick a language then I will probably try Rosetta Stone. I tried a PC program in Spanish when I was younger but I didn't progress enough for sentences. I wish you luck though.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
4 Sep 11
I have heard about Rosetta Stone, but I haven't used it myself. At the moment I am trying to learn some words and some of the basic sentences, but I am still a beginnner and I didn't get that far yet. I hope that I will improve my Russian little by little.
@greenline (14838)
• Canada
26 Aug 11
Hello. How are you ? I have been trying to learn Japanese. On my recent visit to Tokyo, I bought a few language lesson booklets, and also a few language lesson tapes. They are very helpful. And, very fortunately, I have a number of Japanese friends here in the city I live at, and they are also helping me learning the language.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
26 Aug 11
It is great that you have some Japanese friends who can help you learn the language. When I learned Japanese I also had some Japanese friends who helped me. I spent some time at a Danish/Japanese school in Denmark. Some of the students were Danish and some of the students were Japanese. The Danes studied Japanese and the Japanese studied Danish and we helped eachother. I found many Japanese friends at that school and I hope that I will be able to visit them one day. I have never been to Japan. Have you been to Japan?
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
28 Aug 11
Sometimes it is easier to learn a new language when you are surrounded by people who don't speak English. That way you are forced to use the local language all the time. I experienced the same thing when I visited my Italian friend in Italy. At that time I wasn't very good at Italian. My friend spoke English, but the rest of the family only spoke Italian. I learned a lot of Italian words while I was living with them.
@tess_quinain (1149)
• Philippines
26 Aug 11
Oh, yes! I do try to learn the language on my own just like you porcospino! I can't afford to have Spanish lessons so I decided to study it on my own. I do check Spanish websites to take some basic lessons. I subscribe to their Spanish dictionary where I get words of the day everyday. It is interesting to learn a language but for now i stopped learning it because I am a bit busy since i do have two jobs at the moment. But i do hope that i will have to time to learn Spanish again. It takes time and effort to learn a new language.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
28 Aug 11
That is true, it takes time and effort to learn a new language. I started learning Russian some years ago, but at that time I didn't get very far, because I was too busy with work. Now I have started again, and I hope that it will be easier to combine it with my work this time. I have never learned Spanish, but it is one of the languages that I would like to learn one day. Right now I focus on Russian, but I am very interested in languages, and I would like to learn other languages in the future.
@nikelaz (33)
• Bulgaria
26 Aug 11
If you are motivated and want to learn the language you will learn it. It doesn't matter if you go to classes or learn at home. There are some helpful free online e-books that can help you, so at the end my answer is yes, you can learn a language on your own.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
26 Aug 11
It is the first time that I try to learn a language on my own. I have learned other languages, but I have always had a teacher. I also think that it will be possible to learn a new language on my own and I am motivated because I would like to visit Russia one day. It would be a lot easier to travel around in Russia if I am able to speak and understand some Russian.
@ronadelle (1547)
• Philippines
26 Aug 11
Hello there, just like you, I'm still learning myself. I am studying how to speak in Mandarin. I'm not taking classes coz they really are expensive but I bought CDs and DVDs to help me learn on them. Although I could have a simple conversation already but I'm still making my way out to learn reading and writing besides from speaking. It would be best to do it that way. Well, I wish you the best and have fun learning!
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
29 Aug 11
It is great that you have already learned to have a conversation in Mandarin. I didn't get that far yet. I am learning Russian words, but I am not able to have a conversation in Russian yet. I prefer to learn to speak before I learn to read or write, because I also think that it would be the best way to do it. I know that it will take a while before I am able to write Russian, because I have to learn a different alphabet (my mother tongue is Danish and we use latin letters), but it a challenge. Good luck with your studies.
@Rony0007 (3)
• India
26 Aug 11
U can try www.ielanguages.com for learning new languages. They provide a lot of examples, explanations, english to other language convertions, perfectly good at the beginner levels. They provide a lot of audio samples also for better understanding of the language. U can test your learning status with the help of the exercises given at the end. I myself learned spanish with the help of this site. After learning little bit of it, u should join lingofriends or livemocha to talk to the natives of that language.. that would help u a lot.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
26 Aug 11
Thanks I visited ielanguages, and it looks like a very useful site. I think that I will be able to learn both vocabulary, grammar and pronounciation on that site, and it is very nice that it is possible to listen to the words while I read them. I have bookmarked the site so that I can use it in my studies. I don't know lingofriends or livemocha, but it sounds like a great idea to talk to the native speakers.