Unschooling Child.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
United States
28 responses
@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
1 Sep 11
I would have done that if I had the right partner. But it was out of my hands. She decided that the kids will go to school and to make matters worse, catholic school. I had an argument over that because I did not want them in catholic school. I said, public would be fine. But, I was over ridden. I don't mind that they go to school opposed to being home, at least they get to socialize with other kids. I just have a problem with that catholic school thing.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
So the kids have to go through what you did? I'm so sorry.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
2 Sep 11
That's good. It isn't right to Have to go and slap a nun because she hit your child! But I would do just that!
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
1 Sep 11
We homeschooled our children for all of the above reasons, though it wasn't unschooling. We did provide structure and lessons and books. We also took a lot of field trips as we traveled to better learn history and geography. These shared experiences also help bonding in the family.
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@sender621 (14894)
• United States
1 Sep 11
i have had my own schooling issues recently. i am in the process of returning my child to home schooling. this is mainly due to the things that go on at school. i am hoping this is a change for the better. Struggling with a child's educcation is never an easy task for a parent. It does help to have choices and options.
@allknowing (136089)
• India
1 Sep 11
I totally disagree with you. A child needs to mix and mingle and get exposed to an environment that which is not available in her protected home. A child learns how to handle bullies, how to cope with jealousy, face competition et al which is so necessary to face the world in which the child has to be independent of her parents when reaching adulthood.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
You would be surprised to know that my story is not an exception but the rule in most cases. And that you don;t see how hard it was for me must mean you were one of the bullies? I don't know. Just because you enjoyed school and it worked for you Doesn't mean it is best for all. And to protect my kids , if I had any, from bullies They would be schooled at home. It is best for them . Why? because that way they will still have a mother because once I find out that my child is being bullied, I will kill someone ! Simple!And what about Bagarad's daughter? do you Really think it is funny that her daughter was harassed? Really? and so sorry but each of my posts don't just happen, They come from an individual story , mine or someone else's So if you can't or won't understand that I suggest you don't comment on my posts.
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@allknowing (136089)
• India
1 Sep 11
"Mary Mary quite contrary how does your garden grow?" We are not talking about individuals who are an exception than a rule as in your case sarah.We should talk in general. Your mindset is exclusive and so I would rather leave you out of this discussion!. The fact that the system of schooling has survived for so many centuries says a lot about how essential it is. I remember when we were kids all my friends and I would eagerly wait to get back after our finals to start in the new class,not without reason I suppose? I am still in touch with my classmates and meet at regular intervals even after all these years.
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@allknowing (136089)
• India
1 Sep 11
@bagard - With most of the parents being at work these days how a child can be schooled at home and exposed to all what you have mentioned is a bit difficult to follow. A child needs activity every single day an activity that is fruitful to help it develop into a responsible human being. There are several homes that have a one child norm and most neighbours cocoon in their own little world. A child needs to have peers to mix and mingle. And finally not all have the kind of environment that you have outlined.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
1 Sep 11
Hi Behen
Unfortunately in India, such a concept of Home Schooling is not existant, though there are some boards that allow this facility. The next problem is that learning in the distance mode (home based or even a part time course) - the people around still dont consider as something valuable and so having a certification from the Home Learning is yet gain importance. They will neither employ such people and even if they will, the jobs will not be better paying. Simple reason is that the trust and belief that these are better is yet to get into the employers.
But yes, in case this is not a hinderance anymore (by the time we have kids), I would prefer my kid to stay at home, learn on his or her own as I see that there are more plus points involved rather than sending him/her to school in today's world. It is not just the bullies but also, the schools and educational centers have become a place where the parents show off their wealth and the kids are just too much to handle... For some it works great but for a few, it does give some inferiority complex (the competeition is something that all cannot keep up to)
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
Hi Bhai! The one thing that employers should realize, if a child can learn at home using the computer, they will be just a learned and maybe even more learned that their peers who are in regular school.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
1 Sep 11
It took a long time for homeschooling to be accepted here, too. But now, thirty years later, they see these students are sometimes ahead of public schools academically, and also have some valuable extra-curricular activities that make them attractive to the admissions offices. Many homeschooled students are found at Harvard, Yale, and other major universities.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
1 Sep 11
Hi bagarad and behen
Quite true. When I was studying at college (in early 1990s), I rarely attended any lecture or classes. I was more into doing social service and organizing workshops at the slums spreading awareness about cleanliness, health, hygene. I did all my study at home. I dont say or feel that I am better learned in my subjects but yes, I have managed to develop some skills like public speaking, interacting with people better and also being open to learning all my life and looking at things from various perspectives only from these non-class learnings. Yes, today I do not participate in these activities (due to health concerns and issues) but I am better off with these qualities than many of my peers.
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@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
1 Sep 11
I have considered home schooling, but I honestly don't think I have enough patience long-term to do it. It is difficult to enforce a full curriculum of studies while both you and your child are at home--there are too many distractions--housework, phone calls, food shopping, etc.--not to mention TV, the DS, the Wii, or even books. I give a lot of credit to parents who are truly able to successfully home-school their children--it is like having two full-time jobs at the same time--parent and teacher, and requires a LOT of preparation, patience, and perseverance.
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@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Sep 11
A tutor would be tough financially, I would think, but a good choice if you can afford a well-qualified one.
To bagarad--very valid points. I do many of these things with my kids anyway, even though i don't home-school. In fact, I have run into home-schooling groups on "field trips" at many of the places I bring my own kids. But I would think that if you did all of these things as part of the daily "scool curriculum", they would lose some luster (for the kids and for me) as family outings, vacation, family time, etc. Plus, you would also have to build in additional time for socializing with other kids, something that is normally built into the school day. It just seems overwhelming to me.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
1 Sep 11
Many homeschooling parents include practical things in the curriculum so that children see how their studies relate to real life. The take their children to the market and help them learn to read the labels and make good nutrition choices and use math to figure out how much five pounds of potatos will cost, etc. So they learn some health and some math. Then they include home economics by teaching their children how to cook (which also involved math and maybe even chemistry) do the laundry. As they learn these things, they will be able to help you more and will also be more prepared for life when they are on their own. They won't graduate from college and not be able to cook a meal. Men also need to learn these skills.
We didn't have a TV ever, and didn't get one when we had kids. Incorporate reading as a family into the curriculum for entertainment. I've written about this in too many places to repeat here. Homeschooling does involve being willing to give up some of the privacy you may be used to, but you do get used to it, and you can learn to schedule such time for everyone. Lots of homeschool moms have written helpful books that make the adjustment easier. You need to think about the difference between homeschooling and trying to bring regular school into your home. They are two very different things. Go to a home school convention and you will hear other moms share how they handle almost every possible situation. See the available curriculum materials. You will also learn ways to teach different subjects. One can put the phones on voice mail and unplug the kid's phones until their lessons are done. Also, not TV or electronic toys until lessons and chores are done, or only during breaks between lessons. There are ways to get around this. No one loves privacy as I do, but I still managed. As you spend time doing enjoyable things with your children and learning together, you will all appreiciate each other more.
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@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
2 Sep 11
I meant "school". I tried to fix it and the comment just posted.
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
1 Sep 11
I agree. Bullying has gotten out of control. I finished highschool around the time of the Columbine shooting, and some idiots in my list promptly made a list of targets, and someone else drew up plans for a bomb. Not just bullying, but all kinds of scary stuff is happening these days.
One of my best friends homeschools her five children, and they do absolutely wonderful!
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@youless (112481)
• Guangzhou, China
1 Sep 11
Here it is not allowed to home school your child. But even if it is allowed, I will not teach my child at home. First, I have a job. I need to sacrifice my job to teach my child. It will give my husband a heavier pressure since double income will be better. Second, I am not good at teaching. I don't have a training about it. And I am not a patient person. Sometimes when I check my child's homework, I already find it difficult since I don't know how to get him do it better. Third, it is important for the children to learn how to get on well with others. So the school is a good choice. He can meet many friends there and know how to adjust to the new environment and new people.
I love China
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
That's why I said I would hire a tutor.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
2 Sep 11
Ans with these groups you Know the parents of each child. So if there is a bully , it can be nipped in the bud, fast!
@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
1 Sep 11
The social part of my school involved, in part, hearing about people's drunken weekends and who was doing who. That is why I always laugh when people try to shield their public schooled children from this-or-that. If your kid is going to public school, they are probably hearing some of the most vile stuff one can imagine... and it starts at a very early age (I heard the first dirty joke that I remember hearing when I was a six-year old first-grader).
Shielding my children from dirty jokes or the like isn't my reason for planning to home school, though.
With all of the numerous community groups, youth sports, etc., our children will have plenty of opportunities to form friendships with people of all ages.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
1 Sep 11
My husband doesn't want me to home school, for good reasons..We only have one car and live out of town, so if my son was home schooled, he would have zero play time with kids his own age and he would be stuck in this house all week long.
I would want to home school, but not because of his safety, but for a couple other reasons.
1. I can accelerate his reading skills..At the beginning of third grade last year, he was reading at seventh grade level. His teacher wasn't concerned that he will be bored learning words that he already knew and now that his is in fourth grade, I have a copy of all his spelling words this year, want to know the hardest word? maybe together or themselves and this is a kid who I had to ask how to spell mosquito. (Yes, I still can't spell that word and had to use spell check to spell it here.)
2. I want to him to learn the real history, not something that the government wants to teach my son. I am noticing every year that the schools are not teaching simple and truthful history. This is probably why my German friend said that some Germans, (not all, but some) think Americans are not smart because they don't know simple things like who country borders ours, and some don't even know who the Vice-President is..That is sad and I DON'T want my son to be an American like that...
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
Carmella there is something you can do. Make up a word game you and your son can play after the stupidity at school. before dinner , play 20 questions. Tell him you are thinking of a word, and he has to guess it and when he Does guess it , Then he has to spell it! for each word correctly spelled means more time online or outside or , dare I say it? t.v. This way he keeps his vocabulary up. and he gets to play.
Your German friend is correct. Many young adults don't know anything about government or history because it isn't on the test. Each child Has to pass the test to get government money so instead of teaching All subjects as truthfully as they can, they are just teaching to the test. it isn't that american kids are stupid , they just weren't taught what they should.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
1 Sep 11
Hi wilson, it would have been possible a couple years ago, but the neighbor who had meeting in her home is no longer doing that.
As for being locked in a room with kids his own age, I agree, but the only people he would be locked up with is me and his 25 y/o brother, which he already was over the summer and it wasn't fun..:( Of course he went outside occasionally, but when bad weather hits, we are stuck inside and this house isn't very big..
I agree to a point about other people influencing him and yes he is smart, I have heard his friends comment he is the smartest in the school, but this school isn't the best..In fact, we are on a border of two school districts, and if I had a car, he'd probably go to the other school. My neighbor's daughter was able to go to the other school and her sister made a comment that if she went to the school my school goes to, (her sister also went to the school my son goes to) she said that her sister would have graduated with a better GPA. My husband also realizes this, but he refuses to allow him to not be socially involved, so there is nothing I can do about it other than get a job so I can afford a car..
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@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
1 Sep 11
Is it possible for him to get a ride to 4-H meetings or the like? Or does he have current friends who could come visit?
Part of my plan for homeschooling my future children is that they will be very active in the community. They will have the chance to interact with people of all ages (far more important than being locked in a room for a third of the day with 30 other people of the same age).
However... You do not spend all of your time locked in the house--even with only one car. Your son is not going to grow up to be socially inept if you choose to home school him; he may, however, end up as such if he remains in public school.
I spent K-12 in public school. If I wouldn't have been a naturally voracious reader, I would have become one of them... the sort that don't know the branches of government and what they do or, often, even who the Vice President is. However, since I was obviously not one of them, they (including the bus driver and many of the teachers) were determined to make my life H***.
Your son is a smart boy. If you live in an area filled with stupid people, they will eventually turn on him. Stupid doesn't like smart and seeks to destroy it.
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@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
1 Sep 11
In my opinion home schooling is more expensive then attending the regular schools. In school kids learn to interact with their classmates.Bullying is part of growing up. While this is mostly common in school I think kids should learn how to face them or make their own way to address it.Like telling it to their head teacher or someone who had the authority to confront the child who is bullying. Home school can also be good because if you hire a tutor the mode of teaching will be one on one and most probably the kid will concentrate on what the tutor is teaching.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
Bullying isn't a part of growing up. It isn't normal! And the way some kids " handle" it is to come back and bomb the school! Kids can get to be in the company of other kids outside of school. Growing up my friends were one and two years younger than i so we Never had any classes with each other and yet we hung out.And yes that's what I want a tutor for my child ,, if I had any. to have that one on one attention, to mode the classwork so they can Really learn is priceless.
@tessa9 (1085)
• Philippines
1 Sep 11
I open to both. I will definitely send my kid first in a regular school. I think it's better for them to have that interaction with other children and other people outside home. If she or he starts to have a problem likes bullies then I will not immediately result to homeschooling. I go to school to become a teacher and they teach us how important human interaction is. I will result to homeschooling if I see fit.
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@acrossnation (773)
• Malaysia
1 Sep 11
I choose to send my kids to school. It is very complicated procedures to follow if i have to apply homeschool my kids. Moreover i like my kids to have a regular life like the majority for their social skills and for them not to miss schooling life like i got during my schooling years.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
2 Sep 11
That's my whole point. I wouldn't want to inflict my school like on an innocent child!
@Rick1950 (1576)
• Lima, Peru
1 Sep 11
Yeah, if you can afford private teachers for your child, so that he can learn at home, then is right. But I would prefer to send him to the school, in order to meet with his classmates and how to deal with the others. Off course, I would worry to search for a good school with good teachers and education plan as well.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
2 Sep 11
Don't come up here and put your child in public school! try for a private school!
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 Sep 11
This is something I've had mixed feelings about for years. I once firmly believed kids needed the social interaction they get from going to school but some years ago following the numerous school shootings including Columbine I had second thoughts and currently with the bullying problem I'm doing so again. I know I didn't have the option when my daughter was in school because there was no internet plus I had to work, of course things were a lot different then in many ways.
Annie
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
I am assuming I would be like my mom, The childre come first. And that I was smart or lucky enough to have a husband who had enough money for a tutor. But even If I didn't, I still wouldn't put Any child I loved in public school. Thankfully this is all hypothecial! I will never have kids Thank G-d.
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@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
1 Sep 11
I don't have children yet, but I fully intend to home school any that I eventually have. There are many reasons for that decision (a decision with which my boyfriend fully agrees).
"Unschooling" is not a synonym for "homeschooling," however. There are many home schoolers who do not follow that particular path.
How we will home school our children depends on each individual child. One child may need a lot of structure; another may be extremely passionate and motivated and need very little input from us on a daily basis when it comes to her/his educational path.
While I speak of "homeschooling," I doubt that we will spend that much time at home--dance, youth sports, 4-H, Girl Scouts, volunteering, religious services, community theater... There are just so many things for our kids to be involved in.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
And while doing all these activities they get to interact with their peers, the one thing that keeps coming up here. what the others don't get unless the structure is there , it won;t be just peers that your child will encounter. I'm glad you two agree. Take care.
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@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
1 Sep 11
Not really, tutors are expensive too. I think kids really need to go to schools so that they will learn to live in the real world and socialize with people.. since they do need to be independent someday. They can make friends in school and the teachers too.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
Or be bullied by both teachers and students.
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@johnbrainlot (177)
• Greece
1 Sep 11
i will send my kids to national school because i think the interaction with other kids can really help them. they will learn how to socialize and make friends and also see how small societies work.
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@cat003 (33)
• United States
1 Sep 11
Home school my children..No! They do just find in public school. Some parents make the decision to home school for specific reasons and I would agree with them...others because their kids were always truant and never went to school. These are the same kids that are causing problems at school. Parents need to get involved in school and know what's going on in your child's life, you think you do, but believe me kids have a way of hiding whats going on in their life
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 11
I know. My mom didn't know what hell I went through until two years after I graduated. I nwever told her because I just thought I deserved it! Wrong! So that is why if I ever eeven wanted kids I would Never let them Near public school and they would be tutored.
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@wilsonburrell (207)
• United States
27 Sep 12
I don't think homeschooling is a good idea. In school you also learn a lot of things that you need in life that you can't really learn at home. You have to let the child out of the safety bubble home provides. Also for me I was homeschooled until seventh grade. I went into seventh grade having to learn how to socialize and make friends with peers the way a kinder-gardener normally does.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
27 Sep 12
School isn't the only place to make friends. The best friends I made were outside of school. They lived near me. Just because you are home schooled Does not or shouldn't mean you are all alone Everyday.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
27 Sep 12
I have always lived in the burbs.When I was 8 , we moved into an apartment that had a playground at the end of the block. Sadly these days many kids don't go out to play.
@wilsonburrell (207)
• United States
27 Sep 12
Unfortunately in my case making friends that lived near me was impossible. I lived in the middle of nowhere. Until I was put in a normal school my only friends were my family. So maybe it is okay if you live in an area where other kids are, but definitely not if you live in the middle of nowhere.
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