I feel the church service yesterday was... awful =(
By chiyochan
@chiyosan (30184)
Philippines
September 5, 2011 12:00am CST
Im a christian, for years i have known and felt everytime i come out of a church service, i feel good, refreshed, and rejuvinated. I feel like i have been blessed with God's word. (I was a member of another church before but this church i attended to is nearest our place)
But then, yesterday we attended the morning service with this pastor. Well id say it have started a bit well.. but then towards the middle of the service the pastor would shout and emphasize on words or things that he thinks are important.
All i remember was that... he was bashing this political family over the corruption issues here in the Philippines. He called them liers and thieves. And the sermon felt heavy, it felt as though he is more interested to talk about the political issues of the country and he's trying to put his words in relation to the topic yesterday which was the book of ecclesiates.
Im saddened that i felt that way, but to be honest, the 3 and a half hour service was so meaningless to me. i felt like i only wasted my time because honestly, i did not feel that he was a man of God because of the anger i felt and see when he preaches.All i remember was his anger, and i do not understand most of what he is talking about!
I am seriously thinking of finding another church for sunday services. I feel this is not the right church for me, and i think i should be attending the other one where i accepted christ. =(
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7 responses
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
5 Sep 11
Hi chiyosan!
I would have felt the same way like you did. As a man of God, priests should not behave like that. I personally think that priests should be more tolerant. Not condoning but tolerant. He may disagree with what other people do but he should not lash at them publicly. I mean, there's a much nicer way to express your disagreement, especially if you're a priest.
I have never encountered a priest like that. Most of the priests I have encountered either were always calm in explaining their views or they turn into jokes their disagreement over a political figure. They do it in a much wholesome way so people will not feel so weirded out when coming out of the church.
Maybe you should really find another church with a much nicer priest.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Sep 11
thanks secretbear. you said that right. there are a lot of priests and pastors and they too voice out their opinions but just not the way as i have witnessed. I felt ashamed even bringing a friend there because i know they would not even like to come back again! =(
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
6 Sep 11
Well, it wasn't your fault that the priest was like that.
@KizzyCatfish (426)
• United States
6 Sep 11
Hi Chiyosan,
I certainly understand your dilemma. Many of the churches here in the US are now playing what I call almost rock and roll music, while I was raised on the traditional hymns which I dearly love. I have had a hard time finding a church where I can feel blessed with the feeling of praise through music. Recently, I found a church that in fact does hold the traditional services and I was elated, feeling that I had finally found my Christian home. I filled out the information card during the service and gave it to the usher. Several days later three people from the church showed up on my doorstep after dark at night (I live way out in the country and am a single female). I was dressed for bed and not expecting to receive guests and found it necessary to turn them away, inviting them to call me to arrange a convenient meeting.
Within days, one of the three called me, her name is Charm, and we scheduled to have lunch together. I was to drive into town to have lunch with her. About 20 minutes prior to our lunch date, she called me to cancel the date due to issues with child care. I offered understanding and we rescheduled the lunch. The second time around, again, the 20 minute prior call to cancel stating she had transportation problems. I was again gracious in accepting the cancellation. Now, to this day, I have not heard from her or any of the parishioners since. Puzzling.
Further, I happened to be talking with a teenaged girl who I am closely acquainted with, and she happened to tell me that she had tried that church one time, and that one of the people in the congregation had come up to her and stated that she did not belong in that church and asked her to leave. The reason was that she had orange hair! My goodness!
I discussed this with my Mother and my mom gave me some good advice. She told me, "If you felt the presence of God in that church, please don't let the people deter you. They are just two or three people in the church. Continue there as long as you feel the reverence you are looking for."
Now, after that LONG story, in your case... and this is the flip side - the story you tell tells me that you did not feel the presence of God in the church you attended, and that the pastor - who is the leader of that church - has the practice of judging politicians in the Philippines. I remember that Jesus once said, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." I feel like the pastor either missed that story or is ignoring it. My suggestion is for you to find a church service that gives you a feeling of the reverence of the Lord. Once you find that reverence and the presence of God, then do not let the doings of the humans in the church dissuade you and your relationship with God. You will know in your heart when you have found your home. Keep us posted!
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Sep 11
thank you Kizzy for your response and for sharing this with us, especially me. I have always been bothered by this particular church. its been months and actually i have stopped going to the church because of this, and i have somehow started going again in hopes that time may have changed the atmosphere in the church i was talking about.
But to no avail, i still felt that no, there aren't changes... there are still no good things happening... what you said was right, i mean, he keeps on talking about people who are not even there to be enlightened, he seriously looked angry but he is only torturing himself with his emotions... he bursted out a couple of times, called the politician names, and he even pointed at a church goer saying these are the people YOU voted!
its really not a good place, not the one where you are supposed to feel God's presence, blessing you and welcoming you.
@ramsey39 (49)
•
11 Sep 11
I can totally relate to you because I used to have a priest that would yell and scream during his sermon and he talked about his political beliefs all of the time and at the end of the service I would feel such anger towards him because I feel he used the congregation for a political platform!
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
19 Sep 11
Thank you ramsey for your topic response. May be we are talking about the same person?Haha. Kidding aside I think that they who does this have personal motives too. We should be wary,just go to the church and be blessed. Maybe we could also pray for these pastor and priest that they May be enlightened As to what they are doing.
@libramie (562)
• Philippines
5 Sep 11
You have a right to choose a church. A church where you feel solemnity every time you attend worship services and feel the comfort and care of God. You've home terrific and full of blessings, have peaceful mind, God's guidance that lead you to spend the days of your life wonderful.
@stary1 (6612)
• United States
5 Sep 11
Three and a half HOURS?? Yikes tht is a really long service. Is that customary? I don't think I have ever been in a regular service that long.
I also agree with those who said change churches. Even if another one is further away, you want to be comfortable and inspired fron a service, not disappointed ...especially if you spend over 3 hours there.
@ronadelle (1547)
• Philippines
5 Sep 11
Hi there. I'd like to say something on this. This is actually rampant nowadays. Pastors are more concerned about what's happening in the society. That's good but on the other hand, it's not. It's okay to have some views and opinion but bringing this up to the pulpit is just not right. The pulpit is not the place for it. He can do outside the church. Join organizations to where he could exchange his ideas. I know a lot of pastors like this because I studied in a seminary before and somehow the seminary was a factor of producing activitists out of pastors. I'm sad about this fact but I'm praying that there are still a lot out there who care more about winning souls to Christ than feeding anger and doubts to their flocks.
If you are thinking of finding a church where you'll feel blessed and feel the presence of God, then do so. Jesus is present anywhere and He will make His way for you to feel his blessings. God bless you!
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Sep 11
thanks Ronadelle. that is really what i felt. it was more depressing than uplifting. I do not mind hearing about his opinions but, showing the angry side of him in front of the congregation with teenagers as well.. that is just not for me. I felt he should have discussed that with his friends, and all.. and sunday service should be all about God, and how we can be better, how we can pray for those people he is slightly "cursing" in front of the church goers. :(