Should Resteraunts be Allowed to Take Food Stamps?
By TheCatLady
@TheCatLady (4691)
Israel
September 9, 2011 5:33am CST
Yum! Brands company, who owns Taco Bell, KFC, Long John Silver’s and Pizza Hut, is lobbying to allow their stores to accept funds allocated to low-income families through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), food stamps. Allowing food stamps in restaurants could actually save money for the government in the long run. It is thought that the measure won't be well accepted by the public.
What do you think? For? Against? Why? Is it a good idea? Will people abuse it by spending a months of food money on one day?
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
9 Sep 11
At first I thought this was a hard choice, but after reading another's reply, I have to say no, they should not..Like you said, you barely eat out because you work hard for your money and like me, you probably rarely have extra to spend on fast food..
We do occasionally eat out, but mostly I try to make things like pizza, right here at home. It is cheaper and I know what the ingredients are because I also make my own crust..
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
9 Sep 11
I love pizza. You are making me think of making some. Good thing I don't have cheese right now. My diet. ahhhhh.
But what about when a mom is out and gets stuck somewhere with her kids and meal time comes? Kids get hungry. A few happy meals would hit the spot. Of course there is no saying that they would order happy meals or order from the dollar menu and split things like fries.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
9 Sep 11
Well, I am afraid I don't know much about "mom" being out since I am always here..But times when "dad" is out and we have no food, he will sometimes pick up something, usually the artery clogging KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken for those who don't know)because our oldest works there and we get family discounts..
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
9 Sep 11
Another option is to pick up something at the grocery store, they have deli pizza that is somewhat better than fast food pizza..
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
10 Sep 11
The ones that are on food stamps legitimately would not do that. They would budget their meals and be really careful on the groceries so that they had the extra to spend to treat themselves and in my opinion, that's ok. The ones that are lying to the system about their circumstances just don't care. They are the ones that are being fed by relatives etc and selling their food stamps for cash. For them it is just blow money. If a person that legitimatly needed the money went and did that then oh well, maybe they will learn to be a bit more careful next time. That's their problem just as it is mine if I overspend and don't save out enough for meals.
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
11 Sep 11
Some would blow it all and some wouldn't. The ones who would blow it all fast eating out probably wouldn't make good choices at the grocery store either. The ones who make good choices at the grocery probably would make good choices eating out too.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
9 Sep 11
Heck NO!
they are to be used on food ina grocery store things that need to be cooked!
you cant spend on already cooked food in grocery stores or on non food products.
and yes they would spend way more thre than in grocery store and they would haveto pay taxes on the food for cooked food is taxable
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
9 Sep 11
You have a good point, but what about people who don't have cooking facilities?
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
11 Sep 11
Most rooming houses don't have kitchens. I lived in one once and was lucky to have a shared kitchen.
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
9 Sep 11
Good Morning, TheCatLady! I heartily disagree that these Fast Food places be allowed to supply meals for Food Stamps! Please know that this is a personal opinion...as I truly feel, the food that these places serve are JUST EMPTY CALORIES, with little or NO nutritional value! I read this article in Care2. Why not, allow places like the Salvation Army, whom provide full-course value packed foods, accept Food Stamps, and pay for their product at a reduced cost, with these stamps? There are many, many "missions" that offer quality meals, struggling to aid and assist...why give this money to Fast Food outlets who'se profits are in the billions and contributing to today's obesity?
This is a good discussion, hope you get thousands of responses! Cheers!
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
9 Sep 11
Almost every fast food restaurant in the country offers a slew of healthy alternatives.
You can get a chicken sandwich instead of a burger, with ketchup instead of mayonnaise, and you'll be eating only 1/2 the calories and 1/2 the fat. Then there's salads, diet soda, and new oil for the fries (proper deep-fat frying in peanut or canola oil is actually not that bad. There is little to no oil absorption when done correctly).
The problem, though, is that people do not go to these places to eat healthy. They go for the Whoppers and Big Macs.
But that's not the fault of the fast food places. Is it?
People who want to eat unhealthy will eat unhealthy anywhere. You can still get Cheetos and Coke at the grocery store with food stamps.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
9 Sep 11
I have a HEALTHY appetite for learning! And I heartily disagree that any food that is processed in the manner of FF outlets is of qualitative nutritional value. Your points, chicken sandwich--growth hormone stimulated GM'd chicken served on a WHITE bun...Ketchup--loaded with High fructose corn syrup (known to be addictive)...AND, there is NO soda, of any form, that contains any food value, as a matter of fact, just recently an indepth study proves it contributes to brittle bones in women and children.
Having worked in a couple of these outlets, I highly disagree that even the salads are of quality! All chopped items are washed in a chemical bath to keep them from browning! And hours of research, I have only found that cold-pressed Olive Oil to have any nutritional value, but cannot be used for deep-frying!
I hear you loud and clear; "people who want to eat unhealthy will eat unhealthy anywhere!" And they can from the local grocers! BUT, if education isn't working, why give them more unhealthy alternatives and continue to line the pockets of billion dollar corporations? Cheers!
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
9 Sep 11
I have to agree with pergammano, and even if the meat and veggies were not loaded with hormones and chemicals, what makes you think people would buy the "healthy" stuff? We rarely go out to eat, and my son typically eats fruits or nuts for a snack, but when we go out, he likes to splurge and though apples at McD's is available, he always wants the french fries...So just because a restaurant offers it, doesn't mean people will buy it..
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Sep 11
hi thecatlady it would help people who are the working poor have a change occasionally from their ordinary cheap food and I am not one to go on and on about food stamps. our economy is making working people poor and food stams help thats great. why do those who have great jobs and no worries mind their own damned business and leave people who do have to have food stamps alone. I see nothing wrong with this.those who are not needy thank your living God and do not' pick on those who are needy.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
11 Sep 11
You could be right, Catlady. The working poor really don't get many benefits at all. I work full time and I"ve raised four on my own and still have one at home. I never qualified for anything other than a small amount of help on my housing which trust me...I do appreciate. They actually solicited me and called me because I am living in low income housing. I qualify for 14.00 per month in food stamps. I don't qualify for any other assistance so they really don't help the working poor a whole lot. My co-worker who has 2 kids and works a few less hours than I do...she qualifies for around 30.00 per month and even with benefits and working she could not take her family out to dinner and barely gets by.
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
11 Sep 11
I think the problem is some of the working poor without benefits can't afford to eat out and they don't want others to do so on their tax money. I may be wrong. That is my guess.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
9 Sep 11
One restaurant already does, I don't know where it is, but it's somewhere in this town. I've heard that it does, but I don't think that she knew WHERE it was. In any case, I think that those who are on food stamps wouldn't abuse it, but that maybe it should be something like an extra $30.00 that one could use for the restaurant, but say if one doesn't, then it gets rolled over to the next month and added as the food allocated that they can buy at the grocers.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
9 Sep 11
I guess I just feel that most on food stamps wouldn't abuse it, maybe at first, but then they'd get out of the "appeal" of it and realize buying food at the grocers is better. Maybe, if anything, it should be something one can do the week surrounding thanksgiving and christmas only?
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
9 Sep 11
Anything that can be abused will be abused by someone. That's the way this world is. I don't know if food stamps should or shouldn't be allowed at restaurants.
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@urbandekay (18278)
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11 Sep 11
I don't know about food stamps, we don't have them here but I imagine it runs contrary to the spirit if not the letter of the scheme to allow resteraunts to accept them
all the best urban
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
11 Sep 11
Food stamps are meant to allow poor people to eat. A portion of their benefits are for food and only food.
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
9 Sep 11
I don't have the money to eat out much either, but hen again I work darn hard for my money.
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
9 Sep 11
There is even a bigger difference if they eat rice and beans at home and order the expensive foods at fast food. I cook from scratch at home. Even make my own tortillas one at a time so there is no waste. I get a kids meal at McDonald's about 3 or 4 times a year when I'm in the next town. It's my treat to myself. I love the fries. A regular adult meal would break my budget.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 Sep 11
As long as people don't wind up spending a whole month's food stamp benefits at restaurants and maybe just go occasionally, think this would be a great idea. I'm not really into fast food restaurant places, but there are a few "mom & pop" type restaurants around here...like the pizza store I pass by when doing other shopping errands. ah, the smell coming out from there makes my mouth drool, and just ONCE would love to get a slice of pizza, but then think, well, since they don't take food stamps, I would have to use my cash benefits, so I have to ask myself, do I indulge and get a slice of pizza or get more cat food? Guess what wins?
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
11 Sep 11
I remember those days of deciding if I get myself something better than ramen noodles or buy kitty food. Kitty always won.
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
27 Sep 11
You know I don't agree with this. As I can't afford to take my family out very often why should someone who is on assistance have that luxury? Now I know Papa Murphy's takes food stamps and I'm mixed on that as well. But really if they can buy anything junk food they want at the regular grocery store what's the difference?
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
29 Sep 11
I didn't go out much as a kid. It wasn't in my family's budget. When I was young and working, I also didn't go out. I could make the dollar go farther at home. Now I'm not as poor and go out about once a month with the money I work to earn. Sometimes I think why should people on the dole get to do more than I do? I work to give them money to live on. Some people are on assistance because they are disabled and really can't work. It would be nice for them to be able to go out once in a while.
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
9 Sep 11
Hi, TheCatLady. I have always wondered about them coming up with something like this. It would be a great idea for many low income citizens that are having a very hard time buying food from the restaurant every now and then. I just feel that, the foods that they purchase should be very healthy. I think that certain restaurants should only accept the SNAP Benefits. This will allow citizens to still enjoy fast foods, but only when it is more healthier. I also believe that they should allow citizens to purchase one bottle of vitamins for each adult that is in the household every month. And one bottle of vitamins for each child that is in the household too. This would be a great idea for many low income citizens that can't afford to buy healthy foods and vitamins when they are able to.
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@cream97 (29087)
• United States
9 Sep 11
My husband and I was just discussing this topic today. I do agree, that there are healthy foods that are at McDonald's. I love the fruit parfait, like crazy. It is my favorite snack to eat. It would be nice if they would allow citizens to buy this snack off of their SNAP Benefits. I just feel that to keep a person at least healthy, they should allow them to eat healthy foods that are going to be good for their bodies. I know that people are going to eat whatever that they want to while being on the SNAP Benefits. That is why I have specified before in my previous post that, a person should be allowed to use their SNAP Benefits at certain restaurants and they should be allowed to buy only nutritious items. If they implement this option to SNAP users this will benefit them. When I hear of a new plan as this, I think that it should be more of a benefit rather than just as something like an incentive. If I am going to eat at a restaurant, I would like to at least, eat healthy at the same time. There, I know that my money or benefits are being used on something that is very good for my body.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
9 Sep 11
The problem here is that food stamps comes out of tax payer money, and I can completely understand why tax payers would not like to pay for people to eat Taco Bell, you know. I don't get to eat Taco Bell very often, and I don't get food stamps.. so why should someone that I'm helping to support through my taxes eat better than I do?
Also, restaurant food is more expensive and doesn't stretch as far as buying bread and meat from the grocery store. People who receive food stamps will find them running out faster if they go to restaurants instead of buying groceries, and they won't have enough food at the end of the month.
I guess you could say that that's their problem and they'd better learn how to budget their money.. but I can't help but to think of the little kids that would suffer. My mother lived on disability once I turned 17.. and she was the type that as soon as her money came in she'd buy fast food for a few days until she got to the grocery store. Then she wouldn't have much money to spend on groceries.. so we'd end up running out before the end of the month, and we'd go hungry.
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
9 Sep 11
That's sad. I know a woman like that. Her husband gives her money once a week and it's all gone in a few days. Doesn't matter if he gives her 50 or 500. She can't save one penny for later. Hopefully you know how to plan and budget so your family always has enough at the end of a pay period.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
11 Sep 11
I would welcome the idea of some restaurants accepting food stamps so that low income folks could occasionally enjoy a meal out. I am aware that some say that people who use food stamps should be encouraged to eat healthy food instead of some restaurant take away stuff but we are dealing with adults and surely a grown up can balance healthy and junk food regardless of their income!
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
11 Sep 11
Adults can't balance healthy and junk foods. Just look how fat America is. They can't balance it at home or out.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
2 Jan 12
Well...it is food. I think that most everything can be acceptable as long as it is in moderation. I suppose there is not much of a difference in spending them at McDonald's and spending them on things in a store really. People are allowed to buy non essential food items there too. I think that foodstamps is help not a punishment so I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to buy a meal for the members of the family in a restaurant. It will cause a ruckus I am sure though. Most people think of eating out as an indulgence. They already get mad when they see people buying things in stores that they can't afford themselves. I also think that everything has the potential for abuse.
@amybcraft77 (314)
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5 Nov 11
This may be abused, but that is the risk taken to not look like the bad guy who turns away the hungry and needy I suppose.