The Right to Say "NO!"
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
Grand Junction, Colorado
September 22, 2011 6:44pm CST
I started a discussion that has sparked this one, lol, go figure.
I have a problem saying "no." Have had it as far back as I can remember. Could be I don't want to hurt someones feelings, even if it's something I don't want to do. It goes with the whole confrontation thing. I avoid confrontation like its the plague. I can't say where, or how I learned this, maybe watching my mom get walked on by people (family) and never telling them no. Regardless, I'm now much older and have never gotten the courage to say no.
So I was wondering why do you think it is that some people can't say no? Where do you think they learned it wasn't ok to say no? If you had this problem how did you overcome it? If you never had this problem what advise can you give those of us that have the problem? I'm being serious, but sense of humor about this is greatly appreciated.
I think that I need a class that I graduate from that gives me the power to say "NO!" and at the end I get a diploma to mount on my wall.
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@celticeagle (168126)
• Boise, Idaho
23 Sep 11
I think this comes from the confrontation and wanting to be a people pleaser. Also caring about what others think of you. It is something that has to be practiced. If you practice and go by steps for 90 days you can change a habit. Of course you don't want to hurt anyones feelings but what about yourself? You are hurting you and you should be number one.
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Sep 11
I should be number one, but I think that being a mom teaches us that we are never number one. At least so long as we have children at home.
I do think it has to do with the whole confrontation thing, and wanting to please others. I just don't know why I feel compelled to please people that I really don't know.
I'm trying to turn over a new leave. I have had two separate neighbors ask me for something today one I put off till next week and the other I told no. Maybe I can be retaught that I have the right to say no. It's a small step but am very happy that at least one I told no.
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@celticeagle (168126)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Sep 11
You should be very proud of yourself. Some things are not easy. Changing behaviors after years is not easy. Making small goals and staying with it is very important. And, we need to remember that we are the parents and the children are the children. Small steps forward.
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@00fear (3216)
• United States
23 Sep 11
I think we all have to learn to say "no" once in a while because people can act like as if we are their slaves. I also have a problem of saying "no" everytime someone asks me for something but I know I must also learn to say it because then, whenever they want something they know I have, but something I want to use, they can take it away from me. My cousin is the same way. She has been called lazy, fat, shut the **** up, and all these mean words by our little cousins and makes her cry. After all these mean words that was said to her, she still drives him around, takes him places (movies, eat out, etc) almost like he knows that no matter what mean words he tells her, she will still do what he wants her to do. I know I might be in that situation if I never learn to say "no."
@00fear (3216)
• United States
27 Sep 11
So do I, I agree with both of you. We have been telling my cousin that for years but what can we do. She's too nice. When we yell at our little cousin, my cousin says "oh my god, its between me and him, its not your problem." I'm just like "okay then."
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
27 Sep 11
I agree with bagarad, we must teach young people respect of others and name calling is just wrong.
I don't have a problem to say no to those that are mean to me, In fact I have no problem saying anything to someone who is mean to me. i guess I'm not trying to win a popularity contest from those types of people.
I wish your cousin courage to do the right thing with your little cousin.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
23 Sep 11
I used to have this problem because like you I did not want to hurt others feelings. As I matured, I realized that you cannot say yes to everything. For one thing, you do not have the time to volunteer and give and in other things, perhaps you really did not want to do that thing because you did not feel right about it. The latter is easier to do, but the former is harder because you might have friends who were what we call supermoms. Yes I know a couple in our church. I told people that if I do too much my brain does not work, so I am more bound to make mistakes.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
27 Sep 11
Morning is the worse for me. I also feel if I say yes, that people would think I have so much time and can do everything. Besides if I did say yes, I would regret it and get furious at myself and the other person who wanted me to do something.
I am a sort of perfectionist so with me, I have to make sure if I do something for someone it has to be perfect. That is why I hardly volunteer to bake for a special occasion. I remember throwing away or eating almost half the bar cookies because they were not cut perfectly.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
27 Sep 11
I told people that if I do too much my brain does not work, so I am more bound to make mistakes.
Mine is I'm just exhausted from trying to do everything for others, not to mention irritated that grown ups can't be responsible for doing things for themselves.
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@jillhill (37354)
• United States
23 Sep 11
maybe we are related as I have a hard time saying no too...in fact I feel guilty if I do. I think because my parents were so into helping people they expected us to do whatever anyone asked....a few years ago though I got so snowed under with things I had to do for others I felt like I was going to explode! I am getting better....the worst part is people trying to get used to me saying no....they expect a yes!
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
27 Sep 11
@ jill, yes we maybe related as I too feel guilty when I say no.
@ bagarad, the resentment has built up in me at times and I have exploded at someone, usually for something that didn't warrant that kind of explosion.
None of the requests that have been asked of me are life threatening, they usually have to do with the person scheduling something that they know they can't meet the appointment and then requesting me to help them out.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
24 Sep 11
I guess that since you've learned to say no, they'd better change their expectations or find a new victim. The hard part about all this is if we keep feeling forced to say yes, we will build up resentments that will either explode one day or send us into depression or maybe a nervous breakdown, which is not fair to yourself or your family and doesn't help anyone. It's much easier for them to adjust to your saying no to unreasonable requests. One doesn't have to say no to reasonable requests, such as real help needed in an unexpected medical emergency. Saying no to non-urgent requests frees time so that you don't feel so bad about helping someone who really needs it down the road.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
23 Sep 11
I guess it could be a learned behavior but the fact that you don't like confrontation and worry about the feelings of others feeds that need not to say no. Now I use to hate to say no but I guess it just took a few bad experiences for me to not worry so much about it. I am pretty assertive and have always been one to be a bit of a loner anyway. No is not a problem for me now..lol. I think that we all go through a period where we are a little unsure about ourselves and that can be a reason that one doesn't want to say no too.
I think there actually are classes on assertiveness..lol...if not..maybe we can start one.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Sep 11
I may just check into the community college and see if they have any classes on assertiveness.
I think that we all go through a period where we are a little unsure about ourselves and that can be a reason that one doesn't want to say no too.
This has been like this as far back as I can remember. I'm not young, so can't blame it on that.
I think that I just need to practice even if just on little things and see if it gets easier after you have said it a few times. I just have to get over not letting guilt over take me.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
24 Sep 11
In my Stephen Ministry training class, after we read the book I mentioned above, we practice role-playing, and it was really funny. Our Stephen leader should have been actors, and so should have been another of our trainees. You would watch one doing everything possible to make the other agree to something he was supposed to say no to, and you could see the one being manipulated squirming as he tried to remain firm. A class can be a good thing in giving you practice. Our class was Christian in its perspective and was geared to those who were trying to help people in a one-to-one relationship where the care receiver would very likely be manipulative, and where giving in would be good for neither care giver or care receiver.
You might want to consider how saying yes might not be the best thing for the person requesting the favor, and might teach her to think it's OK to manipulate others and become dependent on them. I'm sure there will still be instances where you will be happy to say yes to a request, such as if a neighbor has to take a husband or parent to the emergency room and needs someone to take care of her child after school -- a real need, not just a selfish desire.
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@chrystaltears (3392)
• United States
23 Sep 11
I have a very difficult time saying no most of the time. I have people ask me to do something, and I dont want to. I don't like to. I get upset with myself. I inconvenience myself all the time. I steal time from myself which I have very little of. I get upset at the people for asking me, and they know it will upset me, but they don't care, and lots of times when I say no, I feel guilty and turn right back around and call back or whatever and say yes. Even if it makes me miserable because I am having to do something.
I wouldn't be that way, but I think people take advantage of you when they know you have such a difficult time saying no. But I get eat up with guilt most of the time so I end up saying okay, yes. Then I say to myself or out loud when I am by myself. 'Oh dear God, please help me to get through this"!
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Sep 11
I get the total guilt feelings also. Telling myself you could do that, it's not going to take that much out of you. I get angry at myself for not being firm and angry at the other for asking in the first place.
I just had one of my neighbors ask me to more their back lawn. I mow all the lawns in my little neighborhood (6 houses) and the 3 large common areas. They are all suppose to take care of the back yards themselves. I told her I couldn't do it today, because I still need to get through home school today. Well not today but next week. SO I put it off till next week, and now I'm ticked at myself. I don't have the time. This neighbor has also asked several times for me to go and water. Now the wife doesn't work, why can't she water her own grass? I already water all 3 common areas and my own front and back yard. On top of weeding my flower beds.
I just want to shout "Everyone leave me alone!" "I don't want to take care of your crap, just because your lazy." So your not good at mowing your lawn, who cares no on can see it. Stop asking me, is it not enough that I spend 6 hours a week mowing everything, and another 12 hours watering that now I have to do your back yard too. Oh and water cause you can't do it?
Lord grant me the ability to say no, I can't, I don't have the time.
Thank you for listening to me vent. Just got so worked up again.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
24 Sep 11
She actually commented on my tan and how pale white she was in comparison. Wish I could thought on my toes that quick about telling her feel free to head down and get the lawn mower. However she startled me had headphones on listening to music my back to her and the lawnmower going. When out of the corner of my eye I see a shadow. Its her wanting to chat, not just about me doing the lawn but everything else. Right while I'm in the middle of mowing. I just can't believe that people are so inconsiderate of others time.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
24 Sep 11
No wonder you are fuming. There are several ways you could solve this. The first might be to say that you can no longer afford the time you could be earning money on line to work for free for other people because it hurts your family. So when you mow a lawn or water the next time, let the person know it's the last time for free, but you will be willing to do it for ____ in advance. If you don't feel right about that, just tell the person that you can no longer afford to spend time you could be earniing income to do favors for friends and neighbors, and you won't be able to do it any longer because it takes time and money that really belongs to your family. And then, there's always, "The exercise and fresh air are so healthy, I hate to continue to deprive you of them. I'm already getting more than my share, so now I'm going to quit taking yours." Good luck.
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@CarlHalling (3617)
• United Kingdom
23 Sep 11
I think this stems from a variety of roots. Most of us like to be liked and popular, and so we are nervous saying "no" will make us less liked than saying "yes". Especially we want people we don't know too well to like us, to make good early impressions. This is human nature; and it's about getting on well with others. There's nothing wrong with it: society, business and so on thrive on diplomacy and agreeability; without them, everything would break down. Politeness; good manners...all are necessary for the smooth functioning of society; and saying "yes", rather than "no" can be part of this. I've read that even some very powerful people can be reluctant to say "no"; and will say, "I'll think about it" instead...not to be evasive: it's about empathy...about protecting others from the harsh "no" out of empathetic consideration for their feelings. I personally believe people who don't like to offend others' feelings are admirable; it's not weakness, it's decency, respect for other peoples' feelings and sense of dignity, and there is maturity in that, not weakness. It's not uncourageous to respect other peoples' feelings, far from it: it's noble. Some times it may be frustrating to be constantly agreeable; and many who say yes for long periods of their lives eventually develop the ability to say "no" and feel fine about it, while still preferring to say "yes". I have read of businessmen who are reluctant to say "no", because it seems impolite: these men are not weak. They are considerate...and considerateness is one of the greatest and finest of all human qualities.
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Sep 11
You bring up a number of very thought provoking reasons. I will have to think on this. Yes I do like to be liked. I don't like to hurt someones feelings, even if it hurts me.
They are considerate...and considerateness is one of the greatest and finest of all human qualities.
I have this quality in spades. Wish that others around me had it too.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
23 Sep 11
Hi fanatic,
I can say ‘no’ wherever necessary. I learnt it from my experience; if I say yes then I can’t accomplish it, what is the point of saying a ‘yes’. So I always suggest saying ‘no’ if you are sure about it. Saying a ‘no’ politely never hurt anybody.
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
24 Sep 11
I actually told someone no today, but I felt completely guilty even though the reason for the no was true. It is going to take some getting used to. I will try to say no to things that I really don't have the time to do.
@bamikalipal (588)
• Philippines
23 Sep 11
Saying "yes" or "no" is not only a right. It is an obligation. It is our duty to be truthful and honest. If we don't know how to do it or not capable of doing it, there is no sense in saying "yes" just because we don't want to hurt other people's feelings. For all we know, saying "yes" may not only hurt the other people, but also hurt ourselves. Honesty is still the best policy. Let your conscience be your guide. Peace of mind will be your prize or "diploma." God bless you, beaniefanatic.
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
24 Sep 11
I do like to be truthful. I actually tried today to be honest when telling someone I couldn't do something and they guilt ed me. I put it off till next week, but will again tell them that I just can't do it. I truly don't have the time, not that school has started back up. My daughters education has to come first.
@knicnax (2233)
• Philippines
23 Sep 11
I have a hard time of saying no also. It's really hard to say no, especially if the person asking you is special to you.
I have said no quite a few times though, like when I was teaching and a student failed, he was asking me to pass him, but I couldn't it would be unfair to my other students. I guess, my principles were the one that stopped me from saying no.
If there's a school though, I'd love to attend it too! I have a lot of things to juggle and I would love to learn how to say no properly.
Though while typing this, I remember a few times that I have said "I don't want to do it" in a positive way. Like when a colleague was pushing a training job to me that he's supposed to do in front of our boss (he was new to what my boss was asking him to do and my boss told him that if he can't do it, he'll let me handle it, and so he passed it to me. I'm new to the subject matter too but I'm more experienced in training people). I told them both, "I have no objections in doing it, however, like you I am new at it and we would both need to study it anyway. So what's stopping you from making this a learning experience for you?". Well I said it in a less cocky way anyway. So in the end, the boss sided with me and he took the training responsibility.
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Sep 11
Someone above mentioned assertiveness classes, so am going to check and see what the community college offers. I need something. I can't keep saying yes and putting myself out all the time. I should be important too.
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@franne32 (694)
• Philippines
23 Sep 11
You can always start by talking or mingling with other people and practice being opinionated about things. Some people just lack the confidence to do so and it will take time for them to come out of their shell. But it's really up to you. It may be difficult but not impossible to say no.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Sep 11
Awwww never thought about it like that. Opinionated I can be about a few things, but I reserve the right to be opinionated around people I feel I'm safe to be opinionated. Meaning no confrontation. However, I like the idea of trying it out and seeing where it leads. I agree though it can be low self esteem. I rarely think of myself as having low self esteem, but......something to think about.
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
23 Sep 11
I had that problem for years and am still not over it.
Partly it's the way I been raised, being polite, being helpful etc, how a girl should be.
Also with many things I do think I will do it if nobody volunteers (which is mostly the fact) since it only will take .... of my time.
Also if it comes to helping out others I am social.
But I also found out that if you always volunteer, if you can't say NO nobody respects you or is grateful. They don't care if you are sick or tired or just want some time for you.
They find it normal you will always do it and they even start to fill in your calendar. More and more you have to live the way they want.
And if you say no they will be (or play) angry.
Since always being tired, doing more for others as my own family/kids, and bad health was the result of it all I don't say yes anymore to each thing.
I ask people to write me their request, tell them I need to think it over or check it with my own calender first. Then they will hear how or what.
This gives me the time to think it over much longer and to say no.
I found out that if you say no people don't care either. Then they will find someone else who will do it or do it themselves. I also noticed that many people do nothing themselves and ask others to do everything.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Sep 11
I was raised like that also to be polite and respectful. Also to help others. I wasn't taught how to say no, without feeling overly guilty. I hate the feeling that I get when I say no, and hate myself for saying yes when I didn't want to do it.
I'm battling with being asked to do things just because others are lazy and that really just pushes me over the edge. You can read a little about it in the box above.
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@Ayeth22 (66)
• Philippines
23 Sep 11
I have also a problem by saying "No" maybe i have a low self steam. It is very hard for me to set limit with others. I sometimes feel ashamed or guilty. But to do things against our will and possibilities will end up in feeling used and resentful.
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
24 Sep 11
I do feel extremely resentful when the same people keep asking the same things of me. I don't know why people think that I can take care of their problems. I really can't, I truly don't have the time or the money to do it.
Some one else also said low self esteem while I never really though that I had it I'm starting to wonder.
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
8 Oct 15
In the past year and a half I no longer seem to have a problem with confrontation. I can say no with no problems.
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@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
24 Sep 11
That is the same way with me. I do not like to make people mad by telling them no. It makes me feel bad when I say yes to though. I have done alot of things that I did not want to do. I was in misery because of it. I now say no and sometimes explain the reason for it and do not feel bad about it at all. Sometimes NO is the right answer!
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
27 Sep 11
I just want to be able to say no like other people and not to even give explanation. I hear people do it, I just can't seem to over come it.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
24 Sep 11
I think maybe it is something we need to practice doing. I have done it enough so that now I am quite comfortable. At one time, though, I actually wore a t-shirt that read "What part of NO don't you understand?"
Probably a diploma to mount on your wall is a good idea :-)
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
27 Sep 11
I have threatened to go and buy me t-shirts to have that phrase printed on them. Maybe I still will if it seemed to work.
I think a sign hung on my front door that says I have the right to refuse your request with no explanation might help also.
@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
23 Sep 11
Well, my handle came about because I used to spend a lot of time with women who couldn't say no lol, and I know it's not uncommon, even among men. You don't have to go as far as BDSM submissives to have this problem, although of course they make a virtue of it. But as one who rarely has a problem with saying NO, I don't know if I can advise anything. Make a virtue of it? LOL.
Lash
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Sep 11
I don't know what to say. Speechless.
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@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
23 Sep 11
Well at least that means you're not saying "Yes".
Lash
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@chrystaltears (3392)
• United States
23 Sep 11
grandpa_lash. That was a great response. She didn't say no did she?
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@lilnana1111 (2305)
• United States
10 Mar 16
I took an assertive class in my younger years, and one of the assignments was we had to say no, it was hard but the world didn't come to an end, lol. It's still no easy/comfortable saying no, but I do when I need to.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
10 Mar 16
Since moving to CO about 2 years ago, I don't seem to have this problem anymore. I can stand right up and say no and not feel the need to give an explanation. I don't know what happened to me once I moved here, but I'm happy for the change.
@Shiva49 (26762)
• Singapore
16 Sep 16
I did not know how to say no too but have learned over the years how to disagree.
1. Sorry I cannot help now as I am overwhelmed with other pressing issues.
2. When people ask to borrow money, I try to help them within my means.
Some may ask for the moon, then I tell them there are other kind souls around.
But generally I don't also say no unless the request/demand is outrageous.
But I explain why I cannot help.
I avoid confrontations with a simple take each is entitled to their view and let us agree to disagree - siva
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
16 Sep 16
Well put, I never lend more money than I can afford to never see again. I always think will you make it if you aren't paid back as promised.
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@Shiva49 (26762)
• Singapore
17 Sep 16
@beaniefanatic13 I hate to borrow and when I am pushed to I tell them to remind me lest I forget to repay which I won't.
I recall borrowing only once in my life - siva
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