Obama Loosing Black Vote???
By mehale
@mehale (2200)
United States
September 29, 2011 4:25pm CST
How much faith do you put into what you read in the news? I have seen several articles today on CNN implying that Obama has lost the black vote and their confidence. One of them went so far as to indicate that he needed to pay special attention to the black community. On the other hand, wouldn't this alienate the white voters and still cost him votes in the long run? Do you think he really is loosing the black vote? If he is how could he handle this and still get enough votes to get re-elected without alienating and discriminating against other voting blocks? (Don't get me wrong, I am not an Obama fan, but....it would seem like a bad strategy to focus on just one group for a national campaign, at least to me.)
Here are the articles off of CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/29/politics/foreman-obama-race/index.html?hpt=po_t2
http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/29/opinion/nelson-obama-black-caucus/index.html?hpt=po_t2
Here is one with Cain basically talking the same way, only he implies that the blacks have been brain washed to vote Democratic:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/28/cain-black-community-brainwashed-into-voting-for-dems/
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Sep 11
I got nervous about that part about not paying attention. To me, it gave the idea that many blacks want Obama to act like what happens in many Tv dramas where the head man of the organization is a black man. Trouble I have no idea what the real blacks want to happen. Do they want to be automatically promoted on basis of their ethnic origin or do they want to giet the same chance that other ethnic groups get? Trouble if he says that blacks will get more privileges then anyone, that will lead to a race war.
The other trouble is that there is a good chance that they will stil voe for Obama and give him another chance to ruin the country.
I hope that they will be able to vote for a candidate on the basis of merit and not on the basis of race or revenge.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
1 Oct 11
I think with Obama being elected largely on him being the first black candidate, that it would start that only blacks would have a chance to become presidents and that whites wold have a harder time to being elected. It was easier when Kennedy was the first Irish American to be elected because well you can be any religion and your appearance does not change. For instance if you are converted from one religion to another, your appearance does not change. You still have the same complexion, shape of face, nose, etc. Whereas with race it is different. A black man looks different form a white man, Chinese from a Native American, etc.
I think Romney has the best chance as I do not go by what the person sounds like. And besides I do not want to start a trent where people are elected according to race. And if Cain were elected after Obama then it would create a race presidential trend. And then what if someone is Hispanic? Oh yes Italian. America has not had a president who was of Italian background. See what I am getting at?
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
2 Oct 11
Yes I do see what you are getting at, but on the other hand why elect someone who probably will not do what they say they will, or even try....and why think that Romney would when he has consistently changed his stand on several issues, plus there is his heath care plan in Mass. That will probably be an issue for people that don't like Obamacare. Honestly it is not how he sounds, it is what he says, and how often he changes what he says. I just don't trust him.
On the other hand, I do understand what you mean about creating a trend based on race in the elections. Personally, race, gender, etc have no place in choosing a Presidential nominee. But some people still don't see it that way. Sad, but true. You make a good point.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
30 Sep 11
I agree with you. I really don't know what to think, nor do I understand why anyone would vote strictly based on race, though I guess it does actually happen more often than not. That doesn't make it right, but still. We really need a good solid candidate that will actually try to stand up for the American people and our nation. I am not black, but I do like Herman Cain quite a bit. I really can't get behind Romney or Perry, and the rest don't seem too promising either, but Cain talks good solid logic and common sense, at least so far....though that could change as well a little later into the actual race.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Sep 11
I highly doubt he'll lose the majority of Black voters. They will whine, cry, protest and scream, but in the end they will vote Democrat.
This is not just Black voters though, most of the people in both major parties are just as bad. The parties know they can count on these votes, no matter what they do.
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
30 Sep 11
The big question is how many of them will actually vote now that the newness has worn off.
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@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
29 Sep 11
Anyone who votes for an individual based solely on skin color is prejudiced no matter what color their own skin is.
Has Obama alienated the black people in America - it sure looks like he is trying to. He has been coddling other groups and yet he turned around and told the blacks to "stop crying" about their problems.
What a lot of black voters never realized was that even though Obama is half "black"; he has a completely different background and history than the blacks in America. His ancesters were never slaves and his father was from Africa and came here voluntarily and left voluntarily. He was raised overseas and was never in the US public school system. He came back to the US to get a college degree and became a lawyer and then a politician where being a well spoken, educated black man was beneficial to him (he looked black; but, sounded and acted white).
He has nothing in common with the majority of blacks in America today and anyone who votes for him simply because his daddy was black is a fool; and, if he thinks that the majority of the blacks in America will appreciate him ignoring their issues while he panders to hispanics, gays, etc - he is also a fool for taking their votes for granted.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
29 Sep 11
Very well said, and I agree with you 100% just wondered what others thought and if I was the only one reading this and thinking that way. We really need someone that actually CAN bring America together, now more than ever....though I am not sure it will happen.
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
29 Sep 11
It was the so-called "black" vote that is credited with President Obama becoming President.
In reality, part of the problem is that Vice President Biden is talking again. Every time Biden opens his mouth, President Obama's poll numbers drop.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
30 Sep 11
Brainwashed to vote Democratic is certainly up for debate, but the facts are quite clear. No other group turns out for Democrats like the African-American bloc.
For what reasons they do it is seriously an issue(s) that needs to be addressed in our culture.
Is it the crabs-in-a-bucket theory, where downtrodden solidarity has become the accepted underlining way of life in the black social dynamic, where you must stay blended in with the fray and taking group-think to entirely new levels?
Is it that the majority of blacks in America feel they're owed something extra, and that the promises of Democrats to do things like "spread the wealth around" sound too enticing to pass up?
Is it that the majority of black voters feel as if Republican = white = racist = the enemy of progress?
The common person even wanting to lightly touch these issues would be decried as a racist in the mainstream. But there has to be a reason that so many people give their votes to the same party.
It is not logical that so many people from one group share the same ideology. That would ironically imply that being a certain color does make you different, and that negates any and all progress we've made as a species in terms of race, much less as a country.
And the majority of blacks aren't voting for just any party. We're talking about the party in control in their towns and cities and neighborhoods that are falling apart. The party that has poured exponentially more money than care into failing schools. The party that claims compassion and claims to want fairness and claims that subsidies will improve the black way of life, yet 50 years in and there's absolutely nothing to show for it.
I'm sure a black person who toes the Democratic line and always votes blue would say he or she isn't brainwashed. But there's something that's keeping the loyalty there, and it sure the hell isn't progress! It sure isn't result-oriented.
I don't know what it is exactly, but minus a few percentage points, I have no doubt that black voters will lend the overwhelming majority of their support to President Obama in 2012. And maybe not because they're completely thrilled with his performance, but because this particular bloc is just not going to vote for anyone else in any other party, no matter what.
That's just the way it is. It's something that's very difficult to discuss in America, but something is keeping the black vote loyal.
If Obama's scared of anything, he's scared that not as many will show up to actually vote at all. I know he's not worried about some votes drifting over to Romney or Paul or whomever gets the Republican nomination.
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@rmendoza123 (637)
• Philippines
30 Sep 11
is he running for the office again? better not!
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@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
29 Sep 11
It takes a lot of work to get Americans in general out to vote. It is even harder to get the Black voters out. You have to get folks fired up to vote. So many Democrats are convinced that O will win that they are complacent. I do not think it is so much a fact that he has lost their vote, as they think he will win without the bother.
I think that O is just going for the money...forget the little people. It was actually the money that put him in office the first time.
Think back in history...It seems insane that any black would have ever voted Democratic...since it was the Democrats(KKK) that lynched them.
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