Near Accident

@bagarad (14283)
Paso Robles, California
October 17, 2011 3:58am CST
As I was driving to the other house today to take the trash to the cans, I had to stop at a red light. Before my light turned green several people going in the opposite direction were making left turns in front of me, as they had the green arrow to do it. Then my light turned green, and one more person turned left in front while I waited. Then I started to cross and one more person started to turn out in front of me against the light and barely caught himself and stopped. I couldn't imaging why he would have turned again the red light -- until I saw him holding the phone to his ear. Why don't people follow the law to not use hand-held-phones when driving? Don't they know the life they save by obeying the law might really be their own? Is any conversation so important that you can disobey the law? Anyone got any great ideas on how to wean these people from their phones when driving? They are just as dangerous as drunk drivers. I've already been in my car when it was sideswiped by another one chatting away and it totalled my car. What creative punishments would you like to see these people get?
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
18 Oct 11
First of all, you did not tell us that they were yapping on their cell phones while driving. There are some people who just do not think. I would possibly take the cell phones away from them for a period of time. And the next time, increase the time. For instance with drunks, they often say you cannot drive a car for so long the first period, and then after a time, if they do not come around, then you take away their license. Of course the police might have to get the cooperation of the cell phone company to determine how long that person has his cell phone. Another way, would be that the person would have to pay a surcharge on his cell phone if he yaps while driving. Of course, teal emergencies would be excepted.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
18 Oct 11
You have to understand that the police or some other driver or a passenger in another car will see the person talking on the phone while driving. And if the passenger in the other car will see the licence, they would call the police. Now the police have the licence number and all they need to do is to wait until the driver does the same mistake the next time.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
18 Oct 11
How would the cell phone company know if a person were talking while driving unless it was a smart phone with GPS and they could see the phone was moving faster than a person could walk? Since they say a distracted driver is just as dangerous as a drunk, maybe the penalties should be the same. In some ways, driving whle talking is worse. Sometimes the drunk is so out of it he may not realize what he's doing. But a cell phone user knows exactly what he is doing.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
17 Oct 11
Hi bagarad Quite similar to the normal road scenario at my place. Unfortunately such people forget that they might have no interest in their lives and want to kill themselves, but the others on road might love their lives. The first and only punishment I can see for such ignorant and un-social people is - they shuld be denied any cell phone service and access thoughout their lives. Because anything else, they wont learn. It is not only on the roads, here people dont refrain from using or showing off that they have a cell phone even in the hospitals, cinema theaters (when the show is on). All such people should be included in that list of faulters and must be punished the same way I recommend above.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
17 Oct 11
I see no harm in it in hospitals. Sometimes it helps patients families to be able to contact them. It also helps make patients less miserable if they can talk to a friend, play a game, or check email. Cell phones are used for a lot these days besides talking. I've been in the place where I had to spend hours visiting in the hospital when my husband had had surgery and it wasn't that easy to leave and use a pay phone. Sometimes family members need to make important calls. If a patient is being disturbed in one of the rooms, a nurse can always tell someone to put the phone away.
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@katcarneo (1433)
• Philippines
17 Oct 11
Good thing that you were an alert, defensive driver. So many people these days drive so carefully. I find that the simplest of rules are the hardest ones for people to follow. I as a non-driver still always follow the traffic lights before crossing a street---I wait for the green man to show up even if the street is empty. Most people would just cross the street. One time I was standing on one side of the street waiting for the right signal to cross and the street was empty. There was a traffic enforcer who just FORCED me to cross saying it was okay. So it's okay for a pedestrian to cross the street when the light is red, and so motorists also think it's okay to beat the red light, and it's okay to drive and talk on the phone, etc. The simpler the rules, the easier people break them. Isn't it that since rules are simple they shouldn't be hard to follow? For three years I lived in a city in the Philippines called Makati which is the business district. There I witness traffic rules being observed almost all the time. The reasons? Tons of (disciplined) tranffic enforcers everywhere and really heavy fines. You won't want to be caught breaking traffic rules in Makati City.
@katcarneo (1433)
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
Yeah I think being consistent with implementing laws and fine systems will force hard-headed people to follow. There must be many traffic enforcers who will be strict in making sure rules are followed. It is for the safety of everyone to obey such rules. Sometimes I feel like going back to Makati City because where I am now, many people don't have much regard for rules and the traffic enforcers are not so serious about their jobs.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
18 Oct 11
I wish more pedestrians and bikers would follow traffic rules. Maybe they should send those traffic officers to Chinatown in San Francisco. I remember going there one time to eat when we were there for a workshop Hubby had to attend. Everyone ignored red lights -- especially pedestrians. They would even cross the streets diagonally. Intersections were mad scrambles. Scary.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
19 Oct 11
Oh, my I did a LONG answer to this and then myLot ate it. It is getting late and I think I will go to sleep instead of typing it all in again, Grrrr.
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
21 Oct 11
Hello, now I am all rested, but it is time to go night-night again. But what I had written before it got eaten was that BF and I had a very close call, also, when someone started through an intersection after we were already in it (our right of way) and almost ran us over. We have to drive for everyone.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
19 Oct 11
I am very sorry. When I do a long one I try to remember to make a copy before hitting the "post" button. Sometimes, though, I forget. But it's the thought that counts. I hope you get a good night's sleep.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
17 Oct 11
I remember when cell phones were the size of bricks and only doctors or other emergency personnel could get them. I wish it was like that again. Someone who causes injury to themselves or others through use of a cell phone should have it taken away and not be able to get one for at least a year. If caught talking on a cell phone for any reason other than an emergency they would get a year in jail. People need to get their priorities straight. 99.9% of the conversations they have on cell phones are not important and could wait until they get to a landline. We have blown our own importance way out of proportion.
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
19 Oct 11
Some people just do not think. You are lucky you do not live here where I am. It's a disaster. I agree that talking on the phone wile driving is just as bad as drinking and driving. What can be done is getting a hands free system put into the vehicle. Most new vehicles today are built with this new technology. I know all the Fords are. But for older vehicles, they do sell connectors to make the phone hands free. This way, you can still talk to someone without holding the phone to your ear.
@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
19 Oct 11
You are right about that. But getting your husband one of those hands free set ups is a good idea. Anything to take the danger out of a situation.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
19 Oct 11
I'm going to have to insist my husband get one of those. I don't need one because I don't even turn on my phone unless I'm expecting a call or I need to call out. I will not answer it when I'm driving because I know I'd find it distracting.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
18 Oct 11
My husband is a truck driver by profession and he hates to see people talking on the phone while driving, and according to your experience it is indeed distracting!
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
18 Oct 11
My brother is a truck driver, too, and usually calls me when he's on the road, but he doesn't use a hand-held phone.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
17 Oct 11
Hi Barb! I'm glad nothing bad happened to you! That was really a nerve-wrecking situation. I would be so annoyed, too with the person talking on the phone while driving. I really get pissed when I encounter drivers like that. They are not just putting their lives in dangers but also of other drivers on the road. If I were in the authorities, I would not just confiscate the driver's cellphone but I would also prohibit the driver to have a cellphone for a long time. Or better yet, those kinds of drivers should encounter drivers like them so they would know how dangerous the situation can be when both of them, or all of them are talking over the cellphone while driving. They should not just experience that kind of situation but they should also experience an accident that might happen because of it. That way they can learn a lesson.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
I think that's a good school activity! Safe driving should be taught to students so they themselves can spread the good practice and teach those stubborn adults.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
17 Oct 11
Hmmm, creative punishment.... How about unless one is calling 911 for an emergency, they would get an electric shock is they drive and talk on the phone.. Another good one is one can't call if they are within yards of the receiver.. You situation is more dangerous, but my pet peeve is when I am in the living room and my husband is in the bedroom and he calls me...
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• United States
18 Oct 11
Well, the problem is, he lives in the bedroom, he is hardly ever in the house where everyone else is, like he is a recluse in his own home. I figure at least he can walk the few steps, (because our home isn't large) to ask me something instead of calling me..
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
17 Oct 11
I wish my husband would call me when I'm upstairs working and he is downstairs. Instead he tries to yell at me from downstairs around the corner and I have to leap up and run down the hall to learn if he's trying to say something important. Guess what. 95% of the time he isn't saying anything that couldn't wait until the next time I come downstairs. He's just afraid he'll forget about it by then.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
18 Oct 11
hi bagarad these selfish idiots I would love to see pay huge fines and also be given prison time to make them aware of how stupid and foolish they were. a ten car pile up was caused a year ago on the San Diego freeway when an idiot woman was texting and not watching the freeway. also she steered with her elbow. she swerved into another car causing that driver to lose control thus hitting two more cars. the cars crashed into each other and she was killed along with her teen age daughter. her elbow wqs sheared from her body. four people were killed,one elderly couple had heart attacks and were rushed t the hospital.six were injured badly and five were just slighly injured. the freeway was closed for four hours due to the idiot woman who felt texting was more important than safe driving.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
18 Oct 11
Texting is really bad. We had a train wreck here near Los Angeles because the person driving the train was texting at the time of the accident. Twenty-five people, including the driver and a dear friend of mine were killed. People can watch the road and talk. I see no way they can watch the road while texting. I have trouble understanding the attraction of texting anyway. Why is it more popular than actually talking?
@allknowing (136425)
• India
17 Oct 11
Enforcing any law here in India is difficult as there are enough loopholes to take care of law breakers but in your country bagarad I am surprised that law breakers exist. I always admired the discipline that is followed out there while driving unlike here it is a mad house. What you saw could be an isolated case. In such cases one could perhaps take down the number of that vehicle and report.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
17 Oct 11
Cell phones do not seem to be an enforcement priority here. You see at least one driver on a cell phone any time you drive anywhere. I understand in another county near mine they will have strict enforcement with lots of officers near the high school before and after school for a week. They really shouldn't announce it ahead of time. They might catch more of them. Not to worry. We have more than our share of lawbreakers here.
@allknowing (136425)
• India
18 Oct 11
You must visit India and drive here and when you do it you will realise what a pleasure it is to drive in your own country. I know cell phones do increase accidents but atleast you have good roads and disciplined drivers otherwise.
• United States
19 Oct 11
Oh gosh near misses happen a great deal here in the city where I am from. The worse part is that many drivers that are at fault give a look as if they were imposed. I have had several accidents where I was minding my business at red lights and or stop signs and several for some reason under estimate the distance because they were too busy with their cell phones. It may seem a bit harsh but personally it is just too dangerous and I would say the near miss type ones and or accidental ones should loose their privileges for a while. Get them to think before they decide to endanger the lives of others. They should also be made to attend groups of those who unfortunately were harmed by such type of incidents. They really need to see that it is a serious matter. They need to understand that it could be happen to a loved one.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
19 Oct 11
I agree completely. It could even happen to them. I suppose each of these people believes he's got things under control and won't be distracted -- that it's the other guy that the law is written for -- if they think about the law at all.
@Fatcat44 (1141)
• United States
17 Oct 11
Tape the phone to their head for 31 days.
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@mivvvy (174)
• Netherlands
17 Oct 11
I would love to see that! Just imagine how many people would walk around like that.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
17 Oct 11
That's a good one. Maybe they would get sick of it after a couple of days trying to sleep with it on. Of course, they wouldn't be able to recharge it.
@Rick1950 (1576)
• Lima, Peru
24 Oct 11
I think the punishment to people who drive while they are talking by phone must be severe. The punishment must be the same either when one drives drunk or without using the security belt. It could be a good idea if the infractors are getting their drivers licences retired. Police have to do their job well enforcing the law.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
25 Oct 11
I don't know if I would go that far if no accident had yet occurred, but I would make the first offense stiff enough not to be forgotten. Seat belts are another matter. Some people have been trapped in cars because they had them on. I certainly wouldn't restrict the driving privilege over that because on other cars are endangered. In our area, to take away the drivers license in to take away a person's ability to get to and from work and earn a living. That's pretty several for not wearing a seat belt. A stiff fine would probably be as effective.
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
18 Oct 11
It is against the law in my state to use any mobile phone whilst driving. That includes texting whilst at red lights, and handless phones. It only takes a brief second to take your eyes off the road for an accident to occur. Someone showed the stats here on My lOt which showed how far a car can travel in one sec, two secs, etc. I am afraid the only real control over this dangerous practise, is for there to be public media campaign that highlights the dangers, and Government laws that are strict with heavy penalties. The fine here for breaking the law with the use of mobile phones is very high.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
18 Oct 11
Here in California we've had this law for at least a year, but it isn't taken very seriously. People have their phones to their ears in parking lots, on freeways, anywhere. They just don't enforce it very well. I can't remember the fine. But it might not matter even if they raised it. People just don't expect to get caught.
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
17 Oct 11
I am not sure what they should get for punishment other than their cell phone taken away and drivers license for about a month. Some people cannot do anything without that phone in their hand at all times.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
17 Oct 11
I think a lot of people just don't like their own company enough and can't stand being alone. If they have someone on the phone, they feel they are not alone.
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
17 Oct 11
I have had two near misses with people on the phone. I like you think there isn't any conversation that is so important it can't wait until they are not in a car. I don't know what kind of punishment would be right....In my case one was on the phone....the other texting!
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
17 Oct 11
I think texting is even worse, since you can't watch two places at once. I'm afraid people will continue to do it as long as they think they can get by with it or until they are the fatality in an accident.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
17 Oct 11
I wish things like this were unusual, but they aren't. As I get older I am more and more aware of what other cars are doing. But I still have to thank my Angel that travels with me on most trips I make. Just look for me I'm the old lady who stops for yellow lights.
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@Chevee (5905)
• United States
17 Oct 11
Hi bagard. I don't have the answer to your question. I too wish there was something we could do to make them aware of this. Or to open their eyes to the possibility that it could happen to them too. My sister and I was on the interstate the other day and the driver in the lane beside us was weaving in and out over the center dividing line. Sure enough this young gentleman was on his phone, either texting or punching numbers. She blew her horn at him for him to staighten up. Once he finished. She said now watch him. Yes, he sped up and past us like a bullet, never to be seen again.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
17 Oct 11
Yes. And if we try to call and report them, we have to talk while driving -- unless there is a passenger with us to do the job. It's just hard to get the license number sometimes because when we see it, we don't always have something out to write with.
• Philippines
18 Oct 11
Many many surveillance camera should be installed all over the metro to monitor this reckless drivers. These drivers are so inconsiderate that they don't mind the the troubles they will cause while using cellphones. The law should be more stricter in imposing this rules to lessen this kind of incident.
@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
18 Oct 11
Our first accident was in a rural area. We were coming out of our driveway onto the highway we live on. About half a mile to the left of our driveway, is a slight downward slope so that cars coming up the slope are invisible to us until they get to the top. We are also invisible to them. The woman who hit us was driving a pick-up to the beach and also had friends in the car. The speed limit is 55mph. My husband looked both ways and started across and had not seen the truck. When we were halfway into lane we saw her about to hit us and Hubby tried to get out of her way, but he couldn't move fast enough. We were knocked to the other side of the street and she went over the embankment in front of our property. She told the policeman she had only been doing 45mph, but a witness said she was going much faster than that. The officer said she had been using a cell phone when the accident happened. That was just before the law forbidding cell phone use here was passed. Fortunately no people were hurt -- just cars. A couple of weeks later, when I was about to leave my driveway, I saw a Highway Patrol car come over that hill. I sat there and counted the seconds and saw I would have had enough time to cross safely. In our area, the patrol cars are faster than most other traffic when the road is clear. So the woman who hit us must have been going much faster than the patrol car, which is normally faster than the speed limit.