Dilemma
@witchywoman360 (12)
United States
October 28, 2011 10:43pm CST
Ok, so I want to pose question for all of you. I am a 30 year old single mom. I'm also a smart, driven, dedicated, honest, and caring person. I go out of my way to help anyone I can and, someday, I hope to be better able to help many more. I live my life for others and have recently come to realize that I need to live fo me, too, and I am. I've been alone for a long time and I don't mind it so much. Granted I'd love to find someone who I could share things with, but I'm ok if I don't. So here's my question.... Why on earth can't anyone see me for anything other than a mom or a one nighter? My friends can't even seem to see me as anything more than what I can do for them. Maybe I'm beig niave again, but I thought friends were supposed to hang out or talk. My friends don't hang with me either because my kids are older than their's or because their married and I'm not. I didn't think that should matter. It's not like I'm going to hit on their husbands(eesh!) and I love kids, all kids.I don't get it. Anyone?
7 responses
@SwordsPlay (34)
• United States
30 Oct 11
"Why on earth can't anyone see me for anything other than a mom or a one nighter?"
1) It's because you are a mom.
2) From the tone of your writing, it seems that you want to find a partner. This may be tough to hear, but men will rarely ever want to do anything with a single mother other than a one-night stand (ONS). Men don't want to raise other men's children. You have to either lower your standards or wait until a man with those standards comes along and takes interest in you.
"My friends can't even seem to see me as anything more than what I can do for them."
1) Demand respect from your friends. You teach people how to treat you.
2) If they still don't change, ditch your friends. They're toxic.
3) "Birds of a feather, stick together." If your friends were toxic, then there was probably something off with you. It seems that you have good intentions, but people use you as a doormat. Learn about self-development and self-improvement. There is a great website that I read about personal development: StevePavlina. He's got articles on almost every topic. Highly recommend him to you.
Good luck!
@witchywoman360 (12)
• United States
30 Oct 11
Well, first off, Let me make something clear, I have never had a ONS Nor do I plan to. That is just what guys proposition me for. Secondly, I never asked anyone to raise my kids. My kids are mostly raised and I did that by myself. I think you took my post out of context.
My friends are not"toxic" as you put it, just self-absorbed and whiney, I guess. As far as me being "toxic", maybe I am. When I was a kid I did alot of bad stuff and made horrible choices in my life, But I changed that. I am not a doormat, I make my feelings about their actions and attitudes very clear. Make no mistake, I won't post anything that I won't say to someone's face. I pick my battles, just like you do with kids. I have no interest in your self-help websites or what hve you. I am perfectly happy with who I am and how I live my life. Maybe you missed the part where I said I am a strong, smart, caring person. Let me also add that I prefer to try to see the good in people, not the negative. Negativity breeds hate and uglinss. I appreciate your candor and opinions, however, I think you read my question all wrong. I simply posed this question because it was the only thing that came to my mind and I was looking for a subject for my first discussion. I get the impression,from your screen name and your response that you enjoy getting a rise out of people.
@SwordsPlay (34)
• United States
31 Oct 11
"Just because someone gives you a compliment, doesn't necessarily mean that he's your friend, and just because someone criticizes you, doesn't necessarily mean that he's your enemy."--Unknown
"My kids are mostly raised."
I don't understand. You said you were 30. Unless you were pregnanat at around 12, your kids should at least still be around elementary school age.
"I prefer to try to see the good in people, not the negative."
Bad decision. People are inherently selfish. The only person you can trust in the world is yourself.
"I get the impression,from your screen name and your response that you enjoy getting a rise out of people."
Yups. How else are we going to have a lively, exciting discussion?
@SwordsPlay (34)
• United States
31 Oct 11
"I have never had a ONS Nor do I plan to."
Completely understandable. Despite feminism and all that, women are still insecure about certain things. It's hard to escape biological reality when it comes to male-female reltions.
@gelayagui98 (1336)
• Australia
30 Oct 11
A friend doesn't care when you're broke, being an as*, what you weigh, if you don't see them for months, if your house is a mess, about your past, or if your family is filled with crazy people.Your conversations pick up where they left off, even if they have been months or years apart. They love you for who you are. Be prayerful, God will give you the right man because as written in the Bible, a good husband is from God.
@witchywoman360 (12)
• United States
30 Oct 11
Thank you for your response. I agree with you on your philosophy about friendship. That is how I live my life. I cherish my friends because they are closer to me than any family.
As for a man, I'm not holding my breath. I hope to find someone someday, however I am not too worried about it. Marriage isn't somethin I ever see in my future, though.
Thank you. :)
@SwordsPlay (34)
• United States
31 Oct 11
I wouldn't put too much trust in friends.
Hate to say it, but friendship is a transactional relationship wherein two people get something out of each other. When one or both stop receiving some sort of compensation (happiness, common interests, etc.) then the friendship stops.
@buddha3 (1026)
• India
29 Oct 11
Your narration moved me a lot, dear friend! I don't have an answer for your question, though. I've also faced similar treatment from my so-called friends who turn up only when they need something from me. And I, without bothering about anything help them. And then again, i am alone!
I just can't understand the mentality of those friends of yours. I think you better take it as it is. You know yourself better than anybody else, so you don't need others' certificate. Just think that they might not be trusting their own husbands and that is why they are avoiding you!!
As far as your kids are concerned, they would find their own buddies and get along. Don't worry.
I'm sure you will be having at least a couple of good friends and I think that is enough. Quality of your friends is important and not the number of friends.
Cheers:)
@witchywoman360 (12)
• United States
29 Oct 11
Thank you, my friend, for your comment. I have just always lived my life for my family and friends and it hurts me to think that these people that I have known and loved for so long would treat me or anyone in such a manner. I don't ask anyone for anything, never have. I have always worked for everything I have. On the rare occasion that I have let anyone help me they have turned around and used it against me. People who don't know me very well tend to find these things about me odd, but it's who I am. I will continue to be who I am.
As for my kids, I don't worry about them. I taught them to be strong, independant, opinionated individuals. They will be just fine in life. Just kills me when they ask me why people treat each other that way and I have no answer for them.
Thanks. :)
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@buddha3 (1026)
• India
30 Oct 11
Yes, we can tolerate anything. But when kids ask such innocent and right questions, we find ourselves lost! Because even we don't know the answer.
It's always great to be self-dependent but when we live in a society, we tend to seek someone's help once in a while at least. And that is when we get hurt.
My mother always says, it's not necessary that someone whom you've helped must help you when you need. Rather, if you help someone selflessly, you will be helped by someone else unexpectedly.
It has turned out true in my life many times. Those whom I helped turned their back when I needed them but someone else came from nowhere and helped me.
@clearwater18 (695)
• Philippines
29 Oct 11
Maybe they are not your real friends. If they don't want to hang out with you, then don't hang out with them. Don't push it. Maybe soon you can find friends who also has kids the same as the age of your kids.
@witchywoman360 (12)
• United States
29 Oct 11
Well, had kids young, so most of the people my age (or in my age range) all have younger kids.My kids were my whole life, and still are, but they are all becoming teenagers and having their own lives. It's becoming a difficult adjustment for me, I suppose.
Thanks. :)
@kaeirole (668)
• Philippines
29 Oct 11
that's not new to some single moms..i know a few who has same problem yours..but i don't get it why there are still people who treats those who are single mom as different..for me, real friends will always be their no matter what, whether your married, divorced, single mom..it's still you..hanging out with them won't affect their personality..i mean..that's why they are your friends because they accept you as you..
@witchywoman360 (12)
• United States
29 Oct 11
That is the way I feel as well. I have stuck by them no matter what and I don't understand how they can be ok with blowing me off like I haven't ever been their friend. I don't judge people, if I can hep it, so to have my own friends judging me is hurtful.
Thanks. :)
@sacredcow (40)
• United States
29 Oct 11
Maybe the differences in lifestyles just make it more difficult for them to find things to talk about. If they seem like they only see you as someone who can do things for them, then they may not feel the need to try very hard to be their friends because you're such a good friend and you'll make up the difference. I'm only guessing by the way. I don't know for sure or anything. It just seems as though, from the information given, that your friends rely on you for things but not necessarily for friendship. They probably want to be friends still but don't want to put in the effort because they know they don't have to. Plus, with all the differences between you guys, they'd probably find it a bit difficult. They probably aren't concerned about you hitting on their husbands though. Unless they're the jealous type.
@witchywoman360 (12)
• United States
29 Oct 11
Thank you for your response. You are right about alot of the things you said. I was out of the state for a long time, but I kept in touch. I guess we've just lived our lives so differently over the years that they just expect me to be who I was long ago.
Thanks. :)
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
23 Feb 12
You know, my friend. We can't please everyone that is why some people think that way about you.
For me I don't want to look what the person's past and what people live within. The important things was the inner part of a person where the goodness hide in his/her heart.
Love is the reason for me to believe someone else not because she is rich, beautiful or anything else. Because love will reflect a person a better man and kindness define maturity and responsibility.
We can't blame them that what they think about you. But I appreciate you the most because you are a good person and kind. You are the best for me because your a real a person. You have the qualities to be love forever...that is the qualities that I wanted to be with in my life. But I'm not lucky enough to find a girl like and I hope someday...
Don't bother to those actions of your friends and other people that look at you like that...let them to eat their words someday!