Welcome to politics Herman Cain
@thegreatdebater (7316)
United States
November 2, 2011 6:36pm CST
After spending a day denying he ever harassed anyone, then going on TV denying he knew anything about a "payoff", then trying to blame "left wing media", the truth is starting to come out. While Herman Cain's campaign is in full damage control mode, more facts are coming out, and more women are as well. Today, I third women has come forward to say that Cain harassed her, while one of the other woman is trying to tell her story without breaking the law. Cain's campaign manager has been bold, knowing that the two women have agreements not to talk, is calling for the women to step forward, or shut up. His attack on FOX News last night on the left wing media didn't work well for him, after two republican operatives came out and admitted that they either knew of the harassment, or saw it themselves. It looks like Cain's campaign is falling apart around him, and he seams helpless to stop it. Do you think that Cain should come out and admit to his actions, or should he continue to deny, deny, deny until it either goes away, or his campaign falls apart?
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@HawaiiGopher (1009)
• Belgium
3 Nov 11
Well, he never seemed like a serious candidate to me. He just seemed to be rehashing talking points without giving it much thought. I always suspected that his bid was more for media attention than anything else. I mean, why in the world would you try to become President without some basic knowledge of foreign policy? All politicians make a few gaffes, but Cain has had a bit too many for my taste. Not knowing something as basic as "right of return" when you live in a country that unconditionally supports Israel? Come on...
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
3 Nov 11
I think he should just be honest. After that long I could care less. I'm more concerned with his actions as president-not what he did years ago. Infact, I didn't care what Clinton did when he did it. It was the business as president I was more concerned with.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
3 Nov 11
If all of them took responsibility for their own actions we'd see a lot less of the bickering going on in DC and something would be getting done.
I get what you're saying, really I do but I really don't care. I didn't care when Clinton was doing Monica. Honesty goes a long way with me. What made me care was the lying.
I also care that once justice has been served-in my opinion it's done and over with. On the assumption (not saying I believe it or not) that something did occur with Cain, I want to know if he's done the right thing since then. People do stupid things. Not condoning, just saying.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
4 Nov 11
First off I don't know how you can say that Cain was honest about this situation, seeing how he has either lied, was honest, but ignorant, or is incompetent. I think we all know he isn't incompetent, so either he was honest, but ignorant, or he lied. From the facts that have been provided so far it appears that he lied, but until the NRA releases these women from their gag order.
Second, there are THREE alleged incidents, I think it is safe to say that he didn't learn the first time, and second time. Now, he might have learned from the this the third time, but it was only two on Monday, three days later one more has come up. Now there is talk of another women that went to his corporate apartment with him.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
3 Nov 11
I understand what you are saying, but this is a situation where you have someone that claims to not remember something, than claimed that it wasn't a big deal, then he blames someone else for this coming to light. Funny how republicans get mad when someone brings up race to defend Obama, but Herman Cain does it and republicans (except Condoleezza Rice) agree with him. This does bring into question what he has done, and how he has done it. If you believe what Cain says, he didn't know anything about what was going on in a business that he was running, that personally involved him. Either he had "handlers" that took care of this kind of business, or they didn't trust him with important decisions. Either way, I do think that people deserve to know what happened here, and why he hasn't taken responsibility for his own actions.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Nov 11
If the left has to go back 20 years to find something like this... they are pretty desperate.
She we talk about what the left was willing to ignore about Clinton's background? Troopergate anyone?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Nov 11
That being said though, if any allegations do reach the level of what Clinton did, then I'd be happy to hold it against him. However, as long as they are simply "he said/she said" then I think the left needs to get over it.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Nov 11
There is also the part about gag orders in the agreement too. It could be he really can't legally talk about the details.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
3 Nov 11
As my post points out it wasn't the "left" that outed Cain, it was two republican operatives that work for competing campaigns. The one operative told a radio station last week that Cain had this issue, and the Politico story ran last Sunday. Politico notified the Cain camp 10 days before they ran the story, and they never heard back from anyone in the Cain camp. You are correct that there is a gag order on this, but many (including republicans) are calling for the NRA to release the gag order, there are lawyers working on it right now.
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
3 Nov 11
Cain and Perry both self destructing in the same week. Things are looking up for President Obam
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
4 Nov 11
Perry's team looked like they either didn't do something, or they destroyed his campaign, one of the two.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
6 Nov 11
I think people who decide to run for office especially the Presidency should not do so when they have skeletons in their closets. No matter what, the truth eventually comes out. People out there don't want to see another black President in office and they will do everything and anything in their power to stop him in his tracks. I'm sure they were hoping to find something bad on President Obama while he was running but they couldn't find anything. Cain was gaining in the polls and that is all it took. As for your question I think he should have admitted from the beginning instead of hiding or saying he doesn't recall certain things. His campaign will be over I beieve within a week officially.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
6 Nov 11
The interesting part of this situation is depending on when you listen to Cain he either never knew of any settlement, it wasn't a lot of money, or he told his campaign manager about this in 2003. On one hand he is already a tested politician who knows how to talk his way out of a corner, of he is really good at telling people what they want to hear. I think that his campaign is getting money, but that doesn't mean that they are going to get the nomination.