Bigotry and being a bigot
By EvanHunter
@EvanHunter (4026)
United States
November 3, 2011 6:01am CST
Bigot: A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different political views, ethnicity, race, class, religion, profession, sexuality or gender.
So wouldn't that also mean that anyone who calls you a bigot over your religious beliefs is also a bigot?
Example: say you are a preacher/pastor and you say that marriage is between one man and one woman as Jesus did and people start protesting and calling you a bigot. Doesn't that mean they are also bigots for being intolerant of your religion? Opinions?
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@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
5 Nov 11
I am strongly bigoted against bigots, so ipso facto I must be a bigot. Or am I?
I would maintain that bigotry can be defined in practical terms as unsupported by facts and objective analysis, and that we can make a distinction between active and passive bigotry. That is, a belief that women, blacks, Greenies, Liberals whatever are inferior can be shown to be quite false, that they are NOT as a group (individuals of course can be) inferior or wrong.
But if these beliefs are merely held and not acted upon, then I simply avoid interaction where possible, or avoid intimacy otherwise. In other words, I "tolerate" the bigot despite thinking he/she is a fool. I will quite happily argue their bigotry with them, perhaps, in which case I would say then that your example is a case of a robust exchange of views rather than reverse bigotry. Disagreeing with another person's views is not in itself bigotry.
If these beliefs are acted upon, by the sort of racist who goes out and burns down black churches, or physically attacks Muslims just for being Muslims, then they are dangerous and must be dealt with in any way necessary to rid us of their thuggery, and if that makes me a bigot, then so be it. However, I would maintain that my stance can be objectively supported by analysis, in which case it is not bigotry but damage control.
Lash
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
5 Nov 11
Good point the bigotry comes into how you react to a situation. But I am sure some people would just say if you don't react openly but secretly than you must be a closest bigot...or could it be we are all just bigots and modern society is trying to change the definition to fit to one circumstance instead of the actual definition.
@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
6 Nov 11
If you don't react openly, then you are by definition "tolerant", I would say. I repeat, disagreement is not bigotry, unless you try to force your disagreement onto others.
Lash
@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
5 Nov 11
That post was a little clumsy. I should add, that if someone like me went into a church and physically disrupted a sermon on homosexuality, then however much I might agree with their stance, I would have to accuse them of bigotry also. Protest, disagreement, and argument, in an appropriate context, are simply not bigotry in themselves.
Lash
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@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
4 Nov 11
That`s not a good example.One of the fundamental things in christianity is the union between one man and one woman.So the preacher/pastor must tell that otherwise he is not a christian anymore.The christians can`t accept homosexuality and still call themselves christians.Being a christian is not mandatory so i don`t understand why some people have a problem with the church being against homosexuality.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
5 Nov 11
I wasn`t talking about weird churches Evan sure i can start a church tomorrow and accept any thing you can imagine and call it a christian church but this doesn`t mean i`m a christian.If you are a christian you`ll think homosexuality is a bad thing and that`s it.If you lived your life trying to find a god and in the end you reach the conclusion there is no god out there you`ll think christianity is a bad thing since it keeps people indoctrinated and fools them that there is a god.If you are a homosexual and also believe in god you will try to find that church that tells you it`s ok to be a homosexual and we are all children of god.If you are a homosexual and you think the church should change their rules then that`s bigotry.Or if you are a christian and you think everybody should respect the christian rules that`s also bigotry (people should respect christian rules only inside the church if they are members of that church).
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
4 Nov 11
Yes, absolutely. If a bigot is someone who is intolerant of others opinions, then those who call others bigots over anything, are bigots themselves. That is one of the most hypocritical things that we see all the time. The accusers are accusing others of what they themselves are.
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
5 Nov 11
I think grandpa lash makes a good point below what makes someone truly a bigot is how they react and the level of that reaction not just their beliefs.
@urbandekay (18278)
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3 Nov 11
They are bigots but they are also incorrect, you expressing your view is not bigotry
all the best urban
@urbandekay (18278)
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4 Nov 11
There is nothing bigoted about expressing your view, that is called freedom of speech. Saying someone is a bigot, who isn't, is by definition, bigoted
all the best urban
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
4 Nov 11
Just to make sure I have this clear, you are saying expressing your view is not being bigoted but to call someone who expresses their view a bigot is being a bigot?
@wongchoiyee (7413)
• Malaysia
3 Nov 11
Yes I think so. Both parties is also bigot. Its not good. We must learn to accept other people's opinion.
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
4 Nov 11
I don't think its any big surprise what opinion you are going to get when you go to a church. However should people be called names because they have a set of beliefs?
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
4 Nov 11
I think there is a big difference between accepting something and just deciding not to argue with someone. That would be part of that tolerance you were talking about.
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
4 Nov 11
A wise man can learn from a fool but its the fool who can not learn even from a wise man...
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
6 Nov 11
I think there are bigots in all forms. Perhaps we all are in one way or another. I usually move away from ideas that I don't agree with. I guess that would make me one too. I am not prejudiced but I do have opinions about things such as politics and religion...lol...so shall we say that a bigot is a person that has very strong and unwavering opinions about certain issues in society that may or may not go along with the "norms" of that culture. Goodness...we could all be considered bigots.
@Fire10 (293)
• United States
12 Nov 11
Bigotry - by definition - has nothing to do with any specific opinion.
It has more to do with how you regard those with whom you disagree.
You can have an extremely strong and inflexible opinion, but you only become a bigot when you are intolerant of other people's beliefs and perspective.
I would say that 'bigot' is used as a hateful word in society... so I'd describe bigotry using its definition and not the actual word... if one doesn't want to come across nasty.