i dont think its right
@xmichelletarax (370)
United States
November 3, 2011 8:00pm CST
my father, his fiance, and their 2 kids live in a 5 bedroom 2 bathroom house, it has a huge sun porch, a library, 2 living rooms, and a computer room.
they have a beagle who is around 10 years old. the poor dog is chained up outside all year round, it isnt aloud inside at all, they never pay attention to it and the only one who feeds it is my 12 yr old sister. i feel so bad for the poor thing, if i could take him home i would in a heart beat but i live in a 1 bedroom apartment and already have 2 dogs.
i dont think it is right that the poor thing has to go through what it does, expesally with all its health issues, i think they need to find it a new home or bring it to the spca or something, they could even put it down and i think that would be better for the poor boy (and im against putting dogs down unless absolutely necessary)
anyway, yesterday my dad called me to tell me he got a puppy. it is a 2 month old pittbull/ bull mastiff puppy. i went over to see it and it is really cute but i dont think he should have got it.
i dont think it is right for him to bring home another dog and allow it to be inside when their other dog is outside all the time.
the reason they say the beagle is outside is because he goes to the bathroom inside... but he is old and its expected, plus they have hardwood/ tile floors so it is easy to clean. the other reason is because he likes to jump on people and knocks over my 5 yr old sister, but thats because he was never trained. but nooo they wont let him in
what happens when the puppy has an accident on the floor? or when he jumps on my 5 yr old sister and knocks her down?
i have a rott/lab/collie mix puppy and she wasnt aloud to come see me at my house because her mom was afraid that he would jump.
i just dont think its right that they brought in another dog when they already have one thats not aloud in. i dont want the puppys future to be like the poor dog they have now, always getting yelled at or kicked when he barks at someone going by. it is not right
there are days even before the new puppy that i just want to call the SPCA and have the dog removed so he can be in a better place.
what are your thoughts on the matter?
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17 responses
@Octav1 (1419)
• Romania
4 Nov 11
That's so sad when people treat their pets like this, especially in old age!
Your father's family should be taught how to behave in a dog's company.
Did you tell them that training a dog is important?
If they don't realize this, the new pup will end up in a chain like the old Beagle.
He will start peeing all over the house from the day one - he's a puppy, for God's sake! And what will they do? Will they send him to the backyard because he doesn't know to keep the house clean?
This is so unfair! If they have time and money for a dog, why don't they take proper care of the old boy?
Your father's family should be taught how to behave in a dog's company.
Did you tell them that training a dog is important?
If they don't realize this, the new pup will end up in a chain like the old Beagle.
He will start peeing all over the house from the day one - he's a puppy, for God's sake! And what will they do? Will they send him to the backyard because he doesn't know to keep the house clean?
This is so unfair! If they have time and money for a dog, why don't they take proper care of the old boy?1 person likes this
@Octav1 (1419)
• Romania
4 Nov 11
Oh, but things are even worse than I imagined! You said they used to keep him as an inside dog and then, when they moved to a new house they put him on a chain outside? It must have been a shock to the poor dog, who had been used with living inside, together with the family.
Can't you just take him away and keep him with your American Eskimo? Where there is place for one dog to sleep, there must be place for a second one.
Can't you just take him away and keep him with your American Eskimo? Where there is place for one dog to sleep, there must be place for a second one.1 person likes this
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
6 Nov 11
i wish i could take him believe me. i have 2 dogs at the moment, my american eskimo and my rott/lab/collie mix puppy.
i wish there was a way for me to explain how small my apartment is. there are 3 people, 2 dogs, and a cat in the apartment already.
the apartment is literally
a bedroom that has my bed, an air mattress and a dresser with a tv on it,
then there is my bathroom, which has a stand up shower, a sink, and a toilet
another tiny room between my bed and bathroom, that literally only fits a computer desk.
then you have to go to a diffrent part that isnt connected to the apartment where the animals arent aloud to get to the kitchen.
it is already cramped and over crouded in the apartment and there is litterally NO way to fit anymore animals.
i really wish i could but even if i thought it was possible with the size i know my landlord wont let me, he already told me that there was to be no more animals or we would have to move.
and even if my landlord would let me my dogs do NOT get along in the slightest with my dads dog.
see there is just no way for me to do it at the moment or i would
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
4 Nov 11
thats what im saying,
i think the new puppy will learn not to go to the bathroom inside.
with the beagle it was just too late on in his life when my father met his fiance. she had never worked with him at all, he was aloud in and out of her old trailer as he pleased, it was fenced in and they had an opening in the door for him so when they moved into their new house he didnt like that he couldnt go in and out whenever and had a few accident.
but it is still no excuse, they have no right to throw him out in the cold. here in ny it gets extreamly cold during the winter, we have already had snow this year, and this winter is going to be a bad one.
you dont have to say sorry, i think everything you said is right. it is crap and its not right at all.
and if the poor puppy ends up outside i will probably get arrested for assault.
i just wish there was something i could do, like i said in above comments the spca has a 3 or more month waiting list, so they can do nothing for me right now.
i wish i could bring him home i really do, there is just no way.
my older dog is 11, he is an American Eskimo and he is the most spoiled dog i know. he gets pretty much whatever he wants whenever he wants it, because of his age and health problems, if he gets up on my bed when i am getting ready for bed, i will curl up next to him or if there is no room left becuase he likes to do that to me lol, instead of kicking him off ill sleep on the floor.
we dont know how long he has left so we would all like to make it the best for him.
but my dads dog doesnt get taken care of or loved the way he should and it makes me want to cry, he is a great dog and doesnt deserve to have to live such a crappy life.
@lauriemellis (38)
• United States
4 Nov 11
Myself, I'd make the phone call but it probably wouldn't do much good unless the dog showed clear signs of being abused.
Maybe you could find someone that would offer to take the dog off their hands.
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
4 Nov 11
i did call lastnight but all the spcas are over full and said they cant do anything for over 3 months :(
i have found a person in the past who was willing to take him but my fathers fiance who i cant stand said no. she refused to let them have him. she claims to love the poor dog but i have never even seen her take a second glance at him.
and because he is technically her dog there wasnt much i could do short of kidnapping (dognapping?) him, in which case she would have me arrested because she loves to find any excuse to have me arrested but thats becides the point.
i just wish there was something i could do.
i mean i play with him and make sure he has fresh food and water every time im down there but it just doesnt seem like enough
@lauriemellis (38)
• United States
4 Nov 11
I'm NOT condoning dognapping in any way, shape or form. I repeat, I'm not condoning dognapping in any way, shape or form.
Leashes and chains do break occassionally. Just sayin'
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
6 Nov 11
lol
but towchains dont usually :(
yeah that is what they have him on... a towchain hooked around 2 cinder blocks
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
7 Nov 11
What a hugely distressing story. Sounds to me like the beagle has worn out his welcome and I think you would be doing him and the family a favour if you found him a new home or called the SPCA.
I'm guessing the new puppy will not be trained either. Shame on them.
I have 2 dogs, a goats have the whole huge back yard to live in. My older dog prefers to be out doors. The cat spends time indoors and outdoors and my little dog is mostly inside. All the animals love for everyone, me included, to be in the back yard together. We are a family but we all have our own space.
I believe and I'm going to start preaching ...if you are going to have animals you HAVE to take proper care of them.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
7 Nov 11
I agree with you. Our dogs are fur kids and I cannot imagine not having them inside. I have always had dogs. My family had dogs when I was a baby and I cannot imagine life without a dog. In fact that is the big decider for me as to staying in my home or going into care when I get older. No dogs allowed in most places so I will never go there.
I think that tying up a dog is one of the cruellest things you can do to them. They need companionship, need to be able to sniff the garden, need walks and play time. They are people too. In fact I think many dogs are better people than many people I have met. 10 is a good age for a dog and he should have a nice comfy bed with lots of love and attention. As for calling the SPCA maybe you should. I think our animal protection agency regards permanent tying of a dog as cruelty
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
7 Nov 11
you would think they would consider it cruelty but when i called they told me that they were full and could not do anything for over 3 months. it has been the same with every SPCA i have called :(
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@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
7 Nov 11
I do agree with you, we have two dogs and one is quite big, but they live inside as part of the family. They're our "fur kids" lol. But I'm sorry, I couldn't stand it in the end and have to say something.
Please, "allowed", not "aloud", which means talking out loud. And it's so odd, you spell "allow"" correctly.
Yes, I know, I'm a labguage Nazi, but I can't help it.
Lash
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
7 Nov 11
my dogs are inside as well and when i talk to people about them i usually do refer to them as my kids.
and its alright i was just writing to quickly i guess and did not catch my mistake.
@laniekins (4579)
• Philippines
4 Nov 11
Yeah, I am against what they did to that poor beagle. I don't like putting dogs in cages or chain only if it's extremely necessary. I sacrifice a lot for my male dogs at home, he is a selfish spoiled dog that is like my baby and he don't want to be around new dogs. My bf has a female dog and a few months ago he got a job so he almost can't attend to his dog's needs so I suggest that he will find a new home for her which he thinks of it too. Even if I like the dog to bring home I can't cause my mother doesn't want any dog at home specially female dog, and also my dog will only make noises cause of the female dog and will end up having puppies. I'm glad that she finally found a new home, my bf's brother adopted her but lately she is having issues with eating disorder. Owning a dog doesn't end up with chain or cages and just feeding them, it comes with big responsibility of taking good care of them. I can't live a day without cuddling and attending to my dog, he also make his own way to be with me.
@laniekins (4579)
• Philippines
10 Nov 11
Same here, I am not allowed to have many dogs at home, I am still living with my mother and siblings. It's always heartbreaking every time I give my dog's puppy. I make sure that the new owner will take good care of them. There are just time that we cannot afford to shelter them, spaying and neutering is expensive so it's hard to control the birth.
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
4 Nov 11
i am the same way. my dogs have runs that they can go out on but i never just leave them out there. they are like my family and i couldnt do that to them.
my boyfriend had to get rid of his dog abby too. it was really heartbreaking for him. she had puppys (which is where i got my lab collie, rott mix) and i took home his favorite (this was before he moved in with me) at the time he was living with some friends and was working alot. he ended up having to find her a new home. she was a great dog and i would have took her in too if i could have.
but im like that i would take in every dog if i could.
@lisa0502 (1724)
• Canada
7 Nov 11
i certainly agree with you on this one. I think that getting another dog when one is being neglected is the wrong thing to do. The puppy that they got is going to be a bigger dog than they already have. I certainly hope that they do not get really cold weather there for the poor beagle. I also do not believe in putting dogs down unless necessary but it sounds like it may be the best thing for this dog. We have 5 dogs in our care and I could not imagine that. We do have an outside dog. He does not like being inside but when it gets cold out he comes inside whether he likes it or not. Now as he is older he is more tolerant of comming inside cause the cold hurts his joints. I would definately consider making a complaint against them for the dogs sake. The poor dog does not deserve that especially if they did not train him. And all dogs have accidents. Good luck I hope things work out in the end.
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
7 Nov 11
it does get really cold here, we have already had snow this year. and it has been about 15 degrees every morning this week when i woke up. it is only going to get worse and it makes me feel so bad :(
@marguicha (223129)
• Chile
4 Nov 11
From what you tell me, your father is not a dog lover. That is nothing wrong, except that if you don´t love dogs, why have one? And if he already has had a bad experience with a poor dog, why get a puppy? Puppies are very cute, but soon they turn into growup dogs and it seems that the poor new dog will follow the same steps as the beagle.
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
4 Nov 11
your right my father is not a dog lover at all. he likes them, but he only likes big, aggressive dogs that he has to walk around on tow chains.
because the beagle is small he doesnt like it.
i think he needs to find it a new home, and i dont think it is right at all that he has this new puppy.
i really hope that this puppy does take after the bull mastiff more then the pitt because both can look tough the bigger it gets the better chance it has of staying inside and being well taken care of
@veronizm (907)
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
You're absolutely right. Pets are part of the family and they should be treated as family regardless of how they behave. Of course it's expected from a dog to act like that, it's a dog! They don't have brains like us humans who know that it's not right to jump at people! 
They're animals, and it's in their nature, dogs in particular, to jump at people or play with their masters.
You know what in my country I often see dogs being caged/tied outside the house all year round. And what's more sad is that these are the expensive bred dogs. They do this because they don't want them to be lost or get dirty otherwise if they get lost it's just like throwing away money. But it's just not right and no use at all if we just cage them all year round right? And it's no use getting a dog if we don't pet them and treat them as our friend.
Street dogs (or what we call in my country "askal" or asong kalye; aso = dog, kalye = street) are even luckier coz they get to walk around the streets and be free whenever they want. They don't have owners and they don't have value but at least they are free and are able to exercise.
They're animals, and it's in their nature, dogs in particular, to jump at people or play with their masters.
You know what in my country I often see dogs being caged/tied outside the house all year round. And what's more sad is that these are the expensive bred dogs. They do this because they don't want them to be lost or get dirty otherwise if they get lost it's just like throwing away money. But it's just not right and no use at all if we just cage them all year round right? And it's no use getting a dog if we don't pet them and treat them as our friend.
Street dogs (or what we call in my country "askal" or asong kalye; aso = dog, kalye = street) are even luckier coz they get to walk around the streets and be free whenever they want. They don't have owners and they don't have value but at least they are free and are able to exercise.@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
6 Nov 11
i agree with you. i dont understand the point of getting a dog for looks. like
"oh im going to get you and your going to sit outside and look pretty."
its not right at all.
but you are right and i agree
@courtknee525 (3742)
• United States
5 Nov 11
To me, pets should be kept inside. I have 2 dogs that live in my house and they would absolutely die if they had to live outside. I live in south Florida so it doesn't get too cold very often but it does get extremely hot. If I don't live outside, then my pets shouldn't either, even though I know in the wild animals do live outside. My pets are part of the family and the only one that doesn't live in the house is my horse, but he lives in a barn and has a nice, sheltered stall.
I feel bad for dogs that are left outside all the time. I know some pets are just kept that way and are only allowed inside every once in a while. If your dad keeps his one dog outside then he either shouldn't have gotten another or he should let the other one inside too. Since it's a puppy, it will most likely have tons of accidents, chew on things, and knock down your sister. I also don't think it's right that the mom gets scared the dog will knock her down, this will only cause your sister to become fearful of dogs when she sees her mother like that. I don't think it's right to leave a pet outside all the time. How would your dad like it if he had to live outside all the time even during bad weather? lol he probably wouldn't like it too much
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
6 Nov 11
i am with you on this.
there was even a point that i was living outside for a while but there was no way my animals were going to have to endure it with me, i found some people to take them in until i found a place.
my pets are like my kids.
and im sure my father wouldnt live outside, lol.
and i know that the puppy will have accidents and whatnot and that worrys me.
also i know that my sister was scared of dogs for a while because of the way her mother is. until i started sneaking her away while they were at work and i was babysitting and bringing her up to see my puppy, a move that made it so i wasnt aloud to see her there for months and months but a move that atleast made her realize that not all dogs are bad. she still has a little hesitation around new dogs but i think in a way that is good because she never just runs up to a dog who could be mean, ya know?
@Rosa26 (2618)
• United States
4 Nov 11
I think they don't feel nothing about the way they treat the poor dog, because instead of give that to someone who wants to take care of it, they bought another one, I think that can talk to them and them ho feel about that and tell them that they can send the dog to a pet house where they care the pets.
@flowerfest08 (1677)
•
4 Nov 11
hi:)
I totally agree with you, I could feel your sentiments. I also think that a dog needs to treat as one of the family member, so what they're doing to that dog isn't nice. maybe you can suggest that they need to at least give the dog a proper home and don't just chain it outside.at least just as that.
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
6 Nov 11
i have tried, my fathers fiance just wont give in.
even my father has been trying to convince her to have him put to sleep. (im against this normally) but i think that even that is a better solution then making him suffer through the harsh winter we will have.
but she just wont budge in any direction.
i dont know what to do about her. i have never liked her but this makes me dislike her sooo much more.
she wont let us send him to another home because she says "hes too old, moving him now will just kill him"
dont ask me how or why she thinks this but that is her whole thing.
:(
@sophie1239 (5)
• Canada
4 Nov 11
I agree with you and if the dog is suffering, call the SPCA. However having a dog is like having a child and unless the dog is in pain or is suffering there is nothing we can do about it. They certainly should not have got another dog, but again we have no say in the matter. The only thing you can do is consult the SPCA, try to find a friend who will take on the dog and try to speak to your father. (I suspect you have already done this)
I have a pug/beagle that behaves in much the same way and she refuses to pee or poop in the snow or rain, so even if the door is open, she will only go inside. I have puppy training pads in the powder room and she does her business there. Drives me to distraction, but it is a mutually acceptable solution :)
@xmichelletarax (370)
• United States
6 Nov 11
the spca wont do anything for at least 3 months, but by then it will be full on winter.
i have tried and tried to talk to them, i have brought over people who are willing to take the dog, i have done just about everything i can think of but they just wont listen to me :/
i love the puppy pads, but he wont use them either, once again i tried that solution.
i used the puppy pads for my rott/lab/collie mix puppy who refused to go potty outside until he was about 9 months old. they were a life saver because everything is carpet in my apartment
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
9 Nov 11
It is such a shame they keep their 10 year old dog outside chained up. He should be in the house and go out for regular walks. As for buying a new puppy and keeping that inside it shows life is unfair for the Beagle.
I have two Miniature Poodles and they wouldn't want to live outside. They are house pets for sure. I have a plastic lounge floor that has the look of wood. If something is split then it can be wiped up with a cloth. I take my dogs out for walks and they do their toilet out there. I pick up their mess in doggy bags and throw it away.
I love dogs and anyone that is keeping a dog that poorly should be taught how to care for the dog in a loving way. I suggest they get a similar floor to me. Then their 10 year old dog could come inside. He could be introduced to the puppy so they get on well in the future.
@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
10 Nov 11
Maybe you should talk to your dad about giving the dog up. Or express the need for the dog to get attention and be inside. I also feel sad for the dog. If a human being had accidents, he wouldn't throw him outside and chain him/her up... it shouldn't happen to the dog either.
@rollylolly (2843)
• India
4 Nov 11
I feel sad to hear your story . Your father is definitely doing wrong . He is so insensitive to the beagle and you are right they will behave in the same manner with the puppy when it grows up . You are an animal lover so you are thinking of all these but most people are ignorant of all this and mistreat animals which is very sad and painful .
