Marrying a close family relative
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
India
November 7, 2011 4:52am CST
Many of my paternal & maternal uncle and their children married someone within close family. For example, all three paternal uncles married the daughter of their sister. My maternal uncle's daughters were also married to their parents' brother or sisters'sons. This practcie was extensive one generation earlier. Mostly, sons marry children of maternal uncle though there also practices, I understand where the children of paternal uncle also marry. In some cases, the boy & girl among relatives themselves choose to marry
I had read somewhere that marriage within close relatives is medically ill advised and can lead to problems in children of such marriages. I have not seen anything conclusive in the cses of my close families.
Are there such customs in all parts of the world? Are there any proven cases of adverse impact on children born of such marriages? I'm curious.
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@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
7 Nov 11
Are you seriously telling us that it is legal in India to marry your niece? Because I'm sure it is illegal everywhere in the West, for both religious and genetic reasons. I'm not sure you're not pulling our legs.
Lash
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
7 Nov 11
I, too, was a little surprised to see that, apparently, people were allowed to marry their nieces (he appears to be talking about a past practice). Certainly, in small communities where there is little mobility, there is a tendency towards more inbreeding simply because there is less choice. In countries where marriages are arranged, marriages between close relations can also happen for economic reasons.
In many parts of the world, marriage between first cousins is allowed (Queen Victoria and Charles Darwin both married first cousins) but in many states of America even this is illegal. The American laws are actually largely due to vigorous campaigning by a number of 19th Century researchers and are based on invalid data and somewhat suspect moral considerations.
In India, I understand, a marriage between first cousins is generally allowed only in certain circumstances, depending on whether the cousin is from the mother's or the father's side of the family.
Genetically, there is no more danger of serious disorders in the children of first cousin marriages than there is in children born to fathers and unrelated mothers who are over the age of about 35.
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@THEcreationist (837)
• India
7 Nov 11
I am pretty sure this is ILLEGAL in India, because my father is a lawyer. There are special situations (like adoption) where this is possible.
But, one can always go ahead and do that as nobody is going to file a case. You can see a lot of such cases in South India. However, you cannot register your marriage.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
7 Nov 11
Lash, no jokes on this at all. Real facts. From my large family of paternal & maternal uncles. It is quite legal and widespread among all religions in India. I learn an interesting fact from you that it is illegal in the west. Thanks.
@kaeirole (668)
• Philippines
7 Nov 11
there lots of cases like that..marrying someone who's just a relative..most families who practice that is for their riches to preserve within their family only..and it was also proven in science that it contributes a great factor for having children with inborn illness..it was proven through genetics..
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
7 Nov 11
There is no greater likelihood of serious disorders in the children of first cousins than there is in children of unrelated parents where the mother is over 35 at the time of the birth. Those studies conducted in the 19th Century which concluded that marriage between first cousins led to a high proportion of genetic disorders have been proved to have been flawed, yet they led to many American states banning such marriages.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
10 Nov 11
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Thanks.
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
7 Nov 11
Your kidding right?
No where in the world i know if you marry a family member.
I mean really, it's family.
What kind of kicks do one get out of marrying someone in the family?
Ain't there someone else they could have married?
As for the children, i heard about it causing problems, but never saw it before.
But still, i find this more than odd and off.
No offense.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
7 Nov 11
No offense, done. Weird as these may sound, these are not customs from prehistoric age but right here in our life span. They had their socio cultural prevarications that led them as such.
Thanks for chipping in.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
7 Nov 11
airkulet: could it be the parents also feel some inadequacies like the girl not well educated or good looking which made them apprehensive that the daughter would not be married easily into another family? Just asking.
@littlemissy (200)
• Canada
7 Nov 11
I think these kinds of practises only happen in certain countries. Here in Canada you would very seldom come across a case like yours. I don't know all the laws but I have read your other responses and it seems to me it is against the law in some countries and not in others.
As for the medical implications, I have always believed it would be bad for the children to be born out of this kind of union. I have always thought that they would have mental and physical problems. What about your parents? Are they related through birth or just through marriage? You sound like you have your smarts about you, your grammer and words are intelligent.
littlemissy here signing off for now,
talk to you soon my new friend
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
7 Nov 11
My pareents are from different families and they are related through marriage alone.
Thanks for the comment & compliment.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
7 Nov 11
Mashmm, you heard the cases from which country or continent? You also know more details on the effects or consequences, because it is believed it is genetically ill advised?
@efc872 (1077)
• Jamaica
8 Nov 11
It is a common practice to maintain a strain,
eg the Royal Family and animals. Genetically
if both sides of the union are pure and free
from defects, the offspring will maintain the
line. however,if there are defects it will
multiply and cause a lot of medical problems.
Cross breeds definitively are stronger,infusing
outside bloodline will strengthen the offspring.
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
8 Nov 11
Philippines is not following such, we are pretty strict when it comes to marrying, we cannot marry someone up to the fourth sanguinity if i am correct. So we always make sure who we are marrying is not of our family.. because medical wise, it says it might cause complications in the genes and there might be birth defects.
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
11 Nov 11
Well, that maybe a tradition or culture in your place. Here in our country the law did not allowed any relatives to marry relatives up to the fourth degree of consanguinity...Meaning the child of the Uncle did not allow by law to marry the child of another uncle or auntie...
This is not base on culture but base on scientific bases where most of the siblings in that relationship with relatives will be abnormal...
@TrvlArrngr (4045)
• United States
9 Nov 11
I have heard the medical reasons too. I guess it just depends upon your customs.
@ebuscat (5935)
• Philippines
8 Nov 11
For me they are many doing it it is good because they know what was the attitude of that person they are to be there husband but some thing not okay in that case but they are both good as long as they love each other and they married first before they get involved together.
@carsocmaguinsay (417)
• Philippines
8 Nov 11
yes, marrying close relatives can pose a lot of genetic problems on the offspring. Especially when bad genes are combined together... it is better then to mate among relatives on the fifth degree of consanguinity...
@rmendoza123 (637)
• Philippines
8 Nov 11
First of all this is so gross, this is incest don't you know it?
Oh God, what happened to this people. There's a lot of people out there, you can find one. What kind of custom is this?
@humaira12 (149)
• Indonesia
8 Nov 11
i think not, except if brothers wedding, it would not even be there.
@lisa0502 (1724)
• Canada
7 Nov 11
I am not so sure on the medical parts of this discussion but I do not think that relatives should get married. I think that people should go out and meet new people and fall in love and then get married. I would think though that there would be a chance of issues medically because we all carry different genes and if they double up it may cause problems. But I guess everyone has their own beliefs and opinions and if this is what they choose to do and it is not hurting anyone then so be it. As long as everyone is an adult when they marry.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
7 Nov 11
I think there is a reason for why religion and society have forbidden this to happen a long time ago.It`s called cosangvinisation ( i hope i translated well ) and it has too many genetic risks.There are grades of risks like
1 : Father - Daughter , Mother - Son , Brother - Sister.
2 : Half brother - half sister (the 2 have a common parent and the other parent is different )
3 : between cousins .
etc.
People who are breeding animals also know about these problems and they also noticed the risks.
And it happened for a long time in Europe with the royal families .Since they wanted to keep their fortunes they have married their kids inside their families for generations ...maybe if you will look at some european royal figures you will notice they aren`t exactly Mona Lisa`s or Don Juan`s
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
7 Nov 11
Although it's not forbidden by law (only first bloodline so brother with sister (even if they are adopted so not same blood) and father with daughter and son with mother) I don't think you will meet much peole over here who will jump for joy if you marry within your family. No matter how big your family is.
Even if it is not we do call it incest and it's said that you have a bigger change to get a handicapped child.
The last is not a fact and only the case if you have certain illnesses run into your family which gives a higher risk if both partners have that disease in their dna. But this risk is not higher if you marry a completely stranger who has it too just like you.
I know in certain countries/cultures it does happen but even then many people who do live over here feel ashamed about it.
Why you should be ashamed if you are married to the one you love and it's not against the law is a miracle to me.
What does happen is that in certain religions kids are only allowed to marry someone with the same religion and frequently the parents are looking for that partner too.
If it comes to look the same all these people do. Same blond hair, same pale (unhealthy) colour of the skin, same kind of body shape, frequently glasses as well. So I think they are somehow all one big family as well. And not the most healthy one there is.
If you have a very healthy strong family those kids will be exactly the same. This is not different from what many animals do.
So it depends on the kind of dna you have (or your family has) what kind of children you get. But also the age counts. There is a higher risk if one of the parents is old. No matter if this is the mother or father!
@seriousnuts (508)
• Philippines
8 Nov 11
Interesting post. I've also heard that offspring from blood-related couples would have genetic defects. I'm not sure whether it's true though, at least that's what my mother always tell me. She said she knew someone who has inborn defects because her parents are first cousins. I also would personally go against this type of marriage as that would pose a risk to the health of the offspring, no matter how little the risk is. Also, incest is against the law of nature. Our body is programmed in such a way that we get attracted to a person who is outside our family circle. For instance, we tend to get attracted to the smell of perspiration of a non-family member and detest that from a family member (this was shown in a certain study).
@svjomboy (873)
• Philippines
7 Nov 11
friend if you go middle eastern country you can meet peoples they marry their first degree cousin, the reason is if they have a lot money or business growing to that family just rotating inside the family member, but base on my observations some of their kids are above normal.
@helpinghands (55)
• India
8 Nov 11
In India paternal marriage is allowed only in one religion and yes its illegal....
for my opinion paternal marriages are unacceptable........