Rabid marketing idiocy
@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
November 14, 2011 2:39pm CST
I thought I'd share something with you that made me chuckle almost as much as it made me shake my head in disbelief.
How many of you do marketing? A lot, I'll bet. A huge number of people here on myLot are trying to earn extra cash online and, as all the gurus say, you can't earn from a blog (etc.) without marketing.
I started a new Twitter account yesterday for my upcoming book - you know, info, suggestions, success stories, jobs, whatever else is appropriate for the feed. Now, the important thing here is the book's subtitle - freelance writing without marketing.
If you saw that, you'd be able to guess that it's about building a career without marketing, right?
So who are the first half a dozen followers on Twitter? Hopeful authors? People who want to freelance? Nope! They're ALL marketing people. Just look at their profile descriptions: "Interactive Social Media Resources", "Social Web Strategist" and even one called "sellertiser".
They're obviously following in the hopes that I'll follow them. It's the only explanation: there's no sense for marketing people to follow an account that's specifically about NOT marketing.
My question is this: even if I wanted to do marketing (which is blatantly NOT the case), why do these people think I'd be interested in them when they don't even understand the most basic rule of marketing (know your audience)?
Rabid idiocy. With one single click, they've killed any possible business and convinced me they're too stupid to follow.
Is this kind of knee-jerk following every new account supposed to benefit them?
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@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
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14 Nov 11
I understand the crazed auto-following of anyone who mentions 'marketing', of course - the idea being that marketers all follow each other (though I don't see how any of them hope to sell anything to people who are all trying to sell things...). What I don't get is the pointless following.
I suppose it's because most of these people have automated everything in the belief that a machine can do a better job. Or that they can't be bothered. Probably the latter - in which case I'm even less interested.
It amazes me when people think they can sell - or perform any kind of service - without paying attention to their clientele.
As for the book, I hope you read it too. Once it's actually out of editing (ouch, that's a painful process). There's a chance for a freebie copy for people who're interested (see profile), though even with that I'm only 'marketing' it to people who're interested and not just everyone.
I'm pleased to say that I think it's had a success even before publishing: the approach has just worked for someone I "met" while doing NaNoWriMo, since she'll soon be working for my main client. Without marketing herself at all. Woohoo!
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
15 Nov 11
Keep in mind you are discussing with a person that thinks "a tweet" is something her canary does. Well not really, but everyone is not on the same level, I am saying. I am trying to learn about your topic and appreciate the work you have put into this.
I already think your book has a great deal of merit and will make for an interesting read even for people like me. It may actually be a big help to people too and I'm encouraging you to continue with it very strongly.
I like to write, no, that is not correct, writing is something precious to me. Would I consider 'selling' it? Well to a point, I guess, like you said in this discussion that follows, “Marketing has become such a part of our lives that almost no one has considered how nice life would be without it” - SpikeTheLobster
I remember seeing this marketing article once that was encouraging people to take “information” that was online, use software to change it to the extent that it was not the same, thereby solving a copyright issue and then re-post the article into a blog to make money from. This marketing technique, this article called “blogging to make money is easy”. This is not what I want to do!
I want to write and if I do a little research surely give credit, making note of those I get information from. If marketing (or the type of marketing that give marketing a bad name) attempts to make me into a uncaring ‘plagueism’ marketing machine, it is time we parted. In short after reading that article I stopped thinking about blogging for money.
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@alphenor (686)
• Philippines
14 Nov 11
I really hate online marketing to the extent that I want to forget that I have thought of doing it. It's already becoming a "noise" in my e-mail and on Facebook. There's at least two or more online marketers bugging me everyday.
I'm aware that some of these "followers" are freelancers, being paid by the site owner/s who are too lazy to grab people and push them to their site. So, basically, there exists people who actually benefits from this, in exchange of another who loses his/her money for nothing.
In the end, regardless of the situation, there'll be somebody who's spending money with few or even no results.
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@GardenGerty (160952)
• United States
15 Nov 11
They have told you more than they will ever realize. Let me know when your book is available. Oh, and I am not a marketer. I figure that may be part of my problem.
@topffer (42156)
• France
15 Nov 11
Marketing is everywhere, and there is no reasoning with starving marketers : you can show your claws, but they don't care.
I think the real impact of Twitter is overestimated, but I would have probably followed back "Interactive Social Media Resources", as you need also a bit of marketing for your book.
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@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
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15 Nov 11
To be honest, I'd rather do that bit of marketing myself (as I am doing, even though it's an unpleasant experience). The day I pay someone who puts "Interactive Social Media Resources", "Social Media Maven" or other such buzzwordy phrases on their profile, I'll know my soul is forever lost.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
15 Nov 11
By the past I have never cared about marketing directories offering me a link -- I never paid, so I have kept my soul --, but with a site offering mainly resources for schools, I was really annoyed when I was founding keywords or links in p*rn sites, satanist blogs, and other joys. Sadly, there is no way to force somebody to remove a link.
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
15 Nov 11
Well, I am one of those people that is trying to make some extra money online by using MyLot and some others sites as well. I do promote my links in the hopes of getting referrals. I follow a good amount of people on Twitter, but sometimes I do accept lots of people who request a follow. I have not been on twitter in a while, so now I will spend some time going through all those followers to see which ones I should delete. I think they do that, not because they're stupid, but because they figure the more followers they have the more change of getting either a referral or someone that is interested. But you're right, know your audience. Following someone for the same reasons as the person following you is like chasing yourself.
@SpikeTheLobster (6403)
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15 Nov 11
A couple of wonderful ideas and expressions in your response, there!
"they figure the more followers they have the more chance of getting either a referral or someone that is interested" - absolutely. But that's like dropping 1,000,000 leaflets onto a city from the sky (and hoping for a 0.001% response) instead of targetting your audience. It's rather inefficient and precisely what modern marketing isn't about.
"Following someone for the same reasons as the person following you is like chasing yourself" - that's a beautiful way to put it. Awesome!
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@inertia4 (27960)
• United States
16 Nov 11
Thank for liking my response. I agree with you Spike. To market anything, whether it is a referral link or a product needs to be targeted to the proper type of audience. When you said it's like dropping a million leaflets from the sky, is like finding a needle in a hay stack. Why work harder when we all can work smarter.