Guilty or not guilty?

I am not a pro- GMA, If she's guilty or not that is for the justice to find out in a produnt way. Legal proceedings in the Philippines is only for the poor and for their rivals. If we were to look back about Erap, he was actually guilty (very obvious) GMA this time has to undergo same battle. The difference between this two is GMA is popularly judged publicly as guilty. I do hope justice should be done with much prudence to make Philippines a better fair country.

i think it's a case of a flight or fight reaction for most of them. knowing (perhaps) that they are guilty, they think its better to hightail it out of the country first, before the long--in our case--but oh so slow arms of the law. using ailments is a convenient excuse to go out of the country, getting sympathy and making the other party look bad if their request gets rejected is a bonus. pfft. in terms of GMA's condition? i cringe every time they make it out as if her life is dependent on her being able to go out of the country. i think raisa robles's blog sums this one up quite nicely. check it out, its an interesting read ;) you can it read it here: raissarobles.com/2011/11/04/filipino-endocrinologist-calls-gma-spokeswoman-funny

That really a slapped with our Doctors here. Because it show's that our Doctor's here are not good and they are all bobo(idiot) seems something like that, friend... Our Doctor's must acts on this issue because it is their credibility being the issue here. Doctor's must do something to prove that they are not idiot...those politicians makes them that way. It is the time for them to react on this issue...

good day neelia_lyn, with reference to your main topic discussion, i cannot say directly if they are or not. but, those people should not use their sickness to be an escape goat to the cruelty that they have done. sometimes, the more they act to be sick, the more they are become to be sick. before, GMA is not like that, she was a strong woman. since she claimed that she was sick, then, that is the start of her sickness. wherein, a lot of complications has been happening to her body. and she is becoming unhealthy as well. and this is just a part of her consequential sufferings.

that's their last resort giving the public their medical abstract who's needed a medical consultation in other countries, and to get other people sympathy because of their sickness, but in case of Gloria Macapagal Arroyo , even though she is sick(if it is true) i think the sympathy of other people will not go to GMA, she do a lot of corruption practices billion of pesos were corrupt by this damn family, they have no conscience to the poor people they get the money to the poor people, and they always says we have the rights to go to other countries because that is our rights but they think that the rights of the poor people who was disregarded by this family was activated? of course not because they don't think to the other people they only think about their money and themselves what a evil, i think the DOJ do the right thing to stop the arroyo's to flee in our country, and the supreme court who has give the Arroyo the TRO to get to flee in our country their are all BS! how much did arroyo gave to the 8 judges to have her TRO ? around 10 million pesos or even 100 million each.

I know what you mean, she is the ex-president of the philippine. all i can say is she is more than cleaver and she use it to escape her problem. Did you remember her husband before what he did and always confine the reason of heart problem? now same case of gloria. They are more guilty.

I would say there are guilty people; they are guilty of these almost all the time, knowing that the Filipinos are sympathetic people... we are almost always getting worried about them the moment they say they have this and that problem about their health - many filipinos would just let them be so they won't have to be blamed in case the health issue is true! :D ahaha But I'd say that it is not true that our doctors are not capable, of course they are! they won't be doctors if they aren't capable of treatments, and of advance medical procedures... Come on, we know for a fact that these politicians are just bluffing... they are just using the issue so they can get away from the charges, people will eventually forget, anyway!!!!

I am not an Arroyo supporter as well but I think there is something to be blamed with the slowness in action by the administration. Until now, they have not taken any legal action against the Arroyo family all are allegations as of this time. That of course is giving them the time to flee the country. Same goes with the Revilla case where Ramona was allowed to leave because of the lack of action against her which she took advantage of. Who to blame in this situation is the lack of fast action against the accused or suspects. Since they have the means then they invent lots of excuses be it medical or something else as an excuse to flee from the charges thrown against them. In the case of the Arroyo's denial, I think it was a desperate act of the administration because they have not done the appropriate action against them. Now the tide of sympathy is not in their favor because of this.

If you are asking for a verdict, may I ask who is doing the judging? In a sense and as a society, we have two system of justice. The formal and legal one is the one being heard in courts and being presided by lawyers and their clients. there is another kind - the trial by publicity, wherein it is the people who judge the actions of a certain person even thought here is no effective punishment carried out. In this situation, both types exits although, they don't exactly get along with each other. Another thing that disturbs me is the veracity of the statements and facts. Many of what I heard and read are speculations or innuendos. True, there are facts but are distributed sparingly and often used for attack or coutner0attck on another party. So, technically facts can be subjective. To surmise, there is a formal and informal verdict on cases like these. We cannot do anything unless a formal procedure is undertaken and we actually learn the results. But even in this stage, we can judge one another by our own perceptions and interpretations. To answer you question, there is a pending verdict. We just have to wait for it. Unless, you already formed your own.

If there is a verdict to ask, may I ask who is doing the judging? In a sense, as a society we have two system of justice. The formal one, which is presided by legal and formal institutions like the courts. Another one is the trial of publicity, wherein it is the public who decides the verdict without official repercussions on the behalf of the accused. I;m not a legal mind, but the constant 'trials' and issues in the media and over-all society (which included the courtroom) made me think that the two system exists and have an odd relationship with each other. The other thing that concerns me is the veracity of the facts. In my opinion, all I am hearing is speculation and innuendo. There are facts but they exists sparingly and often used to attack or counter-attack the other party (which doesn't help me form a concrete opinion). They are also open to interpretation, like the law, and only a formal trial can decide whether these facts are really true and not used in a subjective manner. So, basically, there is the formal and public guilty or not guilty. It depends on your perceptive and interpretation of the fcats. Persoanlly, I would just like to do the trial and move on. This been bragging for a long time, and I doby if this will be finsihed as quickly as I anticipate.

The truth is, I don't really care. However, it has been done by people before so it's not really to trust anyone involved in the higher society... Most of them have proven they're not worthy of any trust. Nonetheless, it's also harsh to judge them with what they do now by looking at what other have done... It's really a tough decision. But we are not on the right place to impose a verdict upon any individual.