The Boss Is Always Right! Is That So?
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
India
November 26, 2011 2:22pm CST
If you have been an honest and hard working employee and yet not finding favor with your boss; even when you had an useful suggestion or were sincerely doing a job but found the boss contradicting you & insisting he is right because he is the boss, then join in here with your experience & outlook as to the how's & why's of bosses doing this. Especially if you are a brain worker and felt suffocated because the boss is the stumbling block in your professional advancement, then like many who are said to have left the bosses, not the Company, you may be one of them.
Share your agonies & woes and if you have grown wiser, also tips for others to deal with their bosses!
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12 responses
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
30 Nov 11
Bosses are definitely not always right and that is the reason that I ended up leaving my job as a nursing assistant because my supervisor was a very unfair person. I was initially hired on as a third shifter, but I wanted first shift. She promised me that I would be able to move to first shift when a position opened up. I worked for her for about 18 months and watched many people come and go on first shift but I could never transfer shifts because she said it was too hard to hire someone on to first shift.
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@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
1 Dec 11
dorann: it is undoubtedly unfair of that supervisor to have denied your request consistently. The reason she gave you seems flimsy. Wonder what would she have got out of it!
I had an almost identical experience, but quite long back, at the beginning of my career. There were not many qualified people in the plant I joined after college. So, I guess the complex was already working in many including the plant in charge. I was just then trying settle in in that new place and did not have a very comfortable accommodation to get ready fast to reach the plant at 6 am. I tried explaining this & wanted some time for adjusting. He was very very rude. He also wanted me to report to an abject unqualified manager, which I did agree to but they somehow wanted to humble me. Withing the next one month another good offer came my way and I walked out on those shaky cohorts!
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
27 Nov 11
Hi Pushhy
How are you doing buddy?
Since 2008 I dont work. My last boss was an Australian and trust me, I never had an opinion that a Boss would be so caring and so gentle. I mean, he never ever believed in this old saying that Boss is Always Right. He was always supportive, favored the growth of the employees - technically and monetarily. The only thing he demanded was productivity and once that was visible to him, we were always given a free hand. And trust me, we had the liberty and freedom to say whatever we could to him - you know what I mean.
I would love to have a Boss like him and never would think of leaving such an organization. Only bad luck, that the organization got closed as he found it quite difficult to manage from Australia and the employees here misused the freedom he handed us. Today I cannot go out to any office for regular work(- health issues).
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
27 Nov 11
Cool, sids!
Would you agree that people of true caliber as bosses is such a joy working with & blessed by such capabilities, you never expect them to be overbearing & aggressive. I guess our man embodied that. . The sliver lining in this rat race corporate world is that there are some truly accomplished professionals who create the right environment for motivated team work. Your boss was certainly rightas you seem to suggest, always!
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@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
26 Nov 11
When I was working I worked for the largest telephone company so there was always someone higher up plus we had a very good fair union, I had worked for the company for a long time so I had been in the company longer than mosr bosses I had, I was always at odds with mainly the female bosses, they seemed to make unreasonable decisions and had a bad habit of making decisions in an emtional state. I had quite a few heated discussions with them and I can honestly say, I came on top every time as I think fairly and I worked on their unfiar treatment or their stupidity....
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
27 Nov 11
It is good to hear about your talking against your boss's views also. great. Still you were with the company for more number of years. While serving I always had a male boss and never a lady was my boss.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
27 Nov 11
lilaclady: I can relate to the specific circumstances detailed by you which is when many people get frustrated; they then either have to face harrowing times or call it quits. Which is why it is said people leave bosses and not companies. Therefore in contemporary HR management, there are 360 degree appraisals in professionally managed companies.
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@AD11RGUY (1265)
• United States
4 Dec 11
In my long and illustrious career as a mechanic (what a load of k-wrap. Illustrious?!), I have quit many jobs because of the outrage I feel when working for a boss who is either too egotistical or out right greedy or too dumb to be in charge, let alone in this industry. A lot of what has caused that is the change from promoting from the bottom up to hiring from not only outside the company, but the discipline itself. We now have people with MBA's running auto repair facilities who have not so much as changed their own flat tire. The reasoning is that they are more business savvy and can turn a better profit. My problem is that they don't know a legitimate profit when they see it. It's just bottom line numbers to them, not what the vehicle and customer need. Being that my trade is very technical, it requires quite some specific training to understand what's being dealt with. Having someone who doesn't know that not all vehicles have timing belts, doesn't know that European and Asian cars are both foreign cars and so on, gives me grief beyond explanation. This has caused me to leave otherwise good companies to work for. There is a Hippocratic oath for our industry. It is voluntary. The day I graduated from school, I stood in the hallway and read it aloud with my right hand across my heart. I have stuck with it ever since. Which of course makes it even that much harder for me to work for someone who hasn't anywhere near the sincerity behind them while working in this industry. And of course there is the issue of they know the better way to do it, even though what I'm working on they never have. That REALLY gets me! Even if they were psychic, they got their wires crossed every time they told me how to do it. Arm chair quarterbacks have a better success rating than that! Yeah, there are a number of issues that I deal with for a living. When I finally get them down to just those that the vehicle has, I am a very happy man.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
4 Dec 11
Hi there. The anger & agony caused by people who don't understand basics but dictate to you is quite palpable in your response. It is ironical they get to hold the reins. What is even more loath is the fact that they lack modesty in admitting ignorance of core issues and instead of cheering up people who are adept, cause consternation by their conduct. It is no wonder you had to change places. That's why it is said, people leave bosses, not companies.
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@wongchoiyee (7413)
• Malaysia
1 Dec 11
Boss is not always right in a sense that if he hired and treat the worker badly, then he should not deserve to be label as good boss!
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
1 Dec 11
That's very true! Every one needs a boss who is supposed to be understanding towards subordinates, even though he may be demanding when work is concerned.
Thanks for comment.
@collie26 (25)
• Philippines
2 Dec 11
this is really great to burst out my madness with my boss right now..she doesn't accept suggestions and even explanation of her staff...She even told us that me and my friends are spoon feeding.. She's the only boss that don't know how to act professionally..AArrghgh..up to this point I can see her face..just my experience with my current boss right now..
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
2 Dec 11
collie26: I can empathize with you over your frustration with your boss. . Just take it in your stride. How old is she? May be she has her frustrations for some other reasons and she may be taking it out at work place. . It happens with some oldies. May be she also thinks you are too junior or just young.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
27 Nov 11
Not all the people all the time. Job opportunities for very experienced guys are very hot in several key sectors and people will simply walk out on very arbitrary bosses.. this may not be true for all people & all types of job. Where there it is inevitable, there is no escape other than cursing one's fate & slogging.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
27 Nov 11
There are several good reasons why the boss Is always right!
First- he hired you and can fire you just as quickly!
Second- if your not nice to the boss, how can you expect a promotion, or a raise in pay?
Third- of course the boss is right! Hes running the business and you are getting paid! If there were problems this guy would not be your Boss!
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
27 Nov 11
I'm sure when jobs start chasing people, like it has already happened in many sectors, Companies have started taking matters seriously. They do not want to give the bosses an unrestrained power that drives employees away!Things seem to be getting more objective, here & there at least.. so, there need not be total despair, after all.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
27 Nov 11
In our culture -- a boss is always right -- if this is accepted there will be less issues or problems for the employee. The boss gets the credit for good things happening and gets blame for the bad things happening.
I was more or less a person accepting what the boss says to an extent it doesn't affect me. good day.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
27 Nov 11
Agreed the boss is the one who bears the brunt of most of the outcomes-good and bad. The only irony and predicament for some senior & well experienced employees is when they find the boss completely intransigent, the boss himself being one of limited intellect but favored to have reached that position. Companies these days discourage the control & command style of managers and expect them to be fair. Otherwise, its the Company that loses most of the time.
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
26 Nov 11
The boss is right because he is the boss!
That is a kind unwritten (old) rule and expression. I don't think there is ment with it that he knows better (although there are enough who will make it sound that way).
So if you know better, it's a must (if you want to do it your way) to know how to handle your boss. If you can't do that start observing him and follow some lessons in being attentive, licking heals, how to make your point or getting what you wish/want by suggesting that your idea is the greatest idea your boss ever had, etc.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
27 Nov 11
Bosses are not infallible and not always the men of best wisdom. In many cases, favorable circumstances rather than absolute merit bestows that superior position for them. There is a lurking apprehension that they may not be able to manage by the power of knowing. So, if there are some colleagues who happen to be wiser, they become a bit too aggressive. They act brusque and impose even seemingly wrong actions just to make sure a subordinate doesn't get credit.
Happy to find you concurring with that.
I have taken note of your tips for pragmatism and may be share them with guys who struggle with themselves.
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
27 Nov 11
When dealing with people you have two identifying requirements. You should acquire satisfaction and you should have a reasonable turnover. In a perfect world you would make every person happy in the least amount of time. It is not a perfect world, so it does take time to satisfy people. If one requirement is stressed, the other will be affected.
I had a manager like this.
You need to achieve faster results to show better statistics. With faster results comes less satisfaction. When stats are low the manager is looked at and when satisfaction is not achieved who gets blamed? The manager or me?
The 'boss' was right but the customer was mine. The manager did not know the customer. I needed to change the stats somewhat by looking closer at the system because this was required but continued to work for the (selected)customer's interest because I thought that was whom I was hired for! Some customers suffered.
oh how I dislike the job title b o s s
@tamirs (1807)
• Philippines
27 Nov 11
You know whats good about my boss before?
When we go to meetings without prior notice,and my boss speaks and explains somethings that concerning the Agenda.He always tells us before we begin "correct me if i am wrong"..And from time to time he will ask all of us if everything is to our understanding.You can tell him your opinion and even tell him that he is not doing good.
He will explain his side and tells us to think more.
Sometimes i got his point sometimes i know he is wrong.
But because he is the boss i always stay quiet after telling my opinion..
After the meeting ill go to his room and explain further.And he will tell to that he will think about it further more..
What he always explain to us is,Outside in front of many others,please make me the "Boss that I am" , Then correct me when we are in our office,that ill really appreciate..Because he admits,he is not always right,He also makes mistakes.
@Pushhyarag2000 (1416)
• India
27 Nov 11
Having an understanding & accommodating boss as the one you explain here can be really quite refreshing and keeps people motivated always. Your team appears to be blessed with having a boss who, quite conscious of the fact that he can't be right 100% of the time has established a very healthy practice. This is heartening. So, the corollary is control & command type of managing must give way for understanding & supportive management for a healthy work environment.
Thanks for sharing this interesting insight.
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